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I really don't think we should be making contact with the Yasuk at the same time as the Dolgan. I'd worry about the Dolgan taking that the wrong way given our previous discuassion on that option before when scouting for the expidition.
Eh, should be fine.
It's still true, but it's a lot less likely to cause suspicion now that you have the very good reason of being there to deliver a message of 'if you see me comin', better step aside; a lotta men didn't, a lotta men died'.
 
[X] Use Rite of Way for the worst patches of rough terrain
[X] Use Rite of Way for the moderately difficult ground
[X] Attempt to make contact with the Dolgan
[X] Ranging far ahead of the convoy
 
[x] Preceptor Joerg von Zavstra
[x] Sir Ruprecht Wulfhart the Younger
[x] Ice Crone Ljiljana
[x] Attempt to make contact with the Dolgan
[X] Attempt to make contact with the Yusak
 
Hey! I found The Solution! We need to make bigass Balloons to transform steam-wagons into airships and just fly over the gap! :V

I know there's a moratorium. I hope jokes don't counts. If no - sorry, I'll delete it.
 
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[x] Use Rite of Way for the worst patches of rough terrain
[x] Use Rite of Way for the moderately difficult ground
[x] Attempt to make contact with the Dolgan
[x] Attempt to make contact with the Yusak
 
[X] Use Rite of Way for the worst patches of rough terrain
[X] Use Rite of Way for the moderately difficult ground
[X] Attempt to make contact with the Dolgan
[X] Ranging far ahead of the convoy
 
[X] Use Rite of Way for the worst patches of rough terrain
[X] Use Rite of Way for the moderately difficult ground
[X] Attempt to make contact with the Dolgan
[X] Attempt to make contact with the Yusak
 
I think its worth remembering that there hasn't been a single 'use dhar/necromancy' option since Abel died, hence why Omegahugger always has to write them in.

Well, I guess 'become the second coming of Nagash' one is debatable on whether it was 'go full necromancy' or 'gain godlike power' or both, and that one was also a write-in.

And the options to use Dhar in Sylvania were explicitly because it was Sylvania and Mathilde was suffering from a large amount of dhar exposure; word of Boney is that that those options would not have turned up if she'd already had the Belt.

So. In the immediate aftermath of losing several friends (including her boss that she respected a great deal and had a bit of a crush on), while suffering from dhar exposure, still surrounded by hordes of enemy undead, and having just been handled the single most powerful and thorough untainted repository of necromancy knowledge in existence- Mathilde still rejected the idea of actually using it completely. There were, as I recall, something like 7 votes for it, which is still about as much of a blowout as we ever have.

Mathilde has since read the Liber Mortis, and made use of some of the knowledge within- and still there hasn't even been an option of 'go on, try out the second secret, just see how it works'.

Unless something truly drastic changes (and I'm talking, like, every single person in K8P dies horribly and in a way that doesn't allow their souls to move on normally), using necromancy just isn't on the table. Its not in Mathilde's character.

Insomuch as there's an undercurrent, its really more of an undertrickle. Maybe an underdrip. Its at the level of invasive thoughts, if even that.
 
[x] Attempt to make contact with the Dolgan with Johann
[x] Attempt to make contact with the Yusak with Johann
 
Mathilde has since read the Liber Mortis, and made use of some of the knowledge within- and still there hasn't even been an option of 'go on, try out the second secret, just see how it works'.
Not really, we have had the option of using the second secret of Dahar on warpsotne to see what happens for many turns now.
The Second Secret of Dhar teaches how to collapse it upon itself. Practice upon local Dhar taint, and very cautiously see if this works with Warpstone.
I personally wanted to try it, the ability of getting rid of warpsotne quickly seems quite useful... But apparently even that can corrupt Mathilde's mind, so we are avoiding it.
 
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We actually have had the option of using the second secret of Dahar on warpsotne to see what happens for many turns now.

Alright apparently I missed that :V

Regardless, I stand by everything else.

But Dhar is when that magic has rotted away, and the colour is gone, replaced by a putrid brown. It's not just ugly, it's ugly that exists only at the expense of beauty."
He can take so much, you reflect, and you can only take his life once. It will have to do. "The penalty for every one of those lives taken, is death."
You turn back to the pyre, catching glimpses of the necromancer's terrified and agonized expression through the rising flames, and smile.

Mathilde hates necromancy.
 
Thanks for saying that, GrimTheMad.
Mathilde has since read the Liber Mortis, and made use of some of the knowledge within- and still there hasn't even been an option of 'go on, try out the second secret, just see how it works'.
Technically, this thing has been here every turn.

[ ] The Second Secret of Dhar teaches how to collapse it upon itself. Practice upon local Dhar taint, and very cautiously see if this works with Warpstone.

But. I don't think it's garnered a single vote outside of, presumably, the very early first times it first showed up? (I'm guessing a bit based on memory and speculation of likely events; I'm guessing that, when this first first showed up, maybe a few people tried to include plans for it. But after it did not get off the ground in a turn or two, it just... died fully and completely. And so that was the end of it.) Afterwards, after that early stage when we first finished reading the Liber Mortis, I doubt anybody's ever ran a plan that included Dhar practice since.

But, yeah. Right now, I figure Mathilde is probably more worried about having the Liber Mortis and worrying about the potential future where she might fall and use it... than she is actually tempted to ever use it.

i.e. It weighs on your mind not for using. But you worrying about falling or fucking up or something. Not a sign of temptation, but a sign of stress, doubt, or worry. That sort of 'I have great power in my hands. What if I fuck it up at some point?'
Insomuch as there's an undercurrent, its really more of an undertrickle. Maybe an underdrip. Its at the level of invasive thoughts, if even that.
Yeah. Something at the level of 'secret fears and worries in the night, that, what if one day you go mad or vengeful or something and...' and so on and so forth.
 
Now it's only home to two Clans - Angrund, Belegar's kinfolk, and Stonebeard, which was absorbed into Zhufbar's Engineer Clans generations ago and is now being refounded by Prince Gotri.

the original Engineer Clan of the Karak, Clan Stonebeard, dedicated themselves to a more direct form of warfare after fleeing to Karak Drazh and then being forced to flee again to Karak Azul. Now they name themselves Clan Sternbeard in recognition that they've strayed from the path of their ancestors, and even if Belegar could entice them to return to Karak Eight Peaks, what little knowledge they retain of their craft is from an era predating gunpowder. So he's left with trying to convince an existing Clan to split off a founding population, which is a difficult task at the best of times. Engineers are very aware of their value, as are the Dwarfholds they belong to.

@BoneyM, these two things seem somewhat contradictory, unless the Stonebeard clan being redounded by Gotri is something like a splinter of the original that merged Zhufbar at some point?
 
@BoneyM, these two things seem somewhat contradictory, unless the Stonebeard clan being redounded by Gotri is something like a splinter of the original that merged Zhufbar at some point?

That's probably because my notes only cover the Clans actually at K8P. Thanks for pointing it out.

So why do people keep voting to make contact with the Kurgen after Boneym told us it will not go well?

Did he say that?
 
I wonder what would the dwarfs do if after being declared a dwarf suddenly Mathilde went full Necromancy...
Blame Ranald even more? And also blame how inferior Umgi bodies/culture/minds react when the Dawi soul within is shocked by shame and grief (of having been denied a Dawi life and/or afterlife maybe even forever due to Zhufi Marks). Karaz Ankor culture teaches honorable Slayerdom. Self-absorbed Umgi culture has people forget their place, go insane without a proper outlet and grasp for evil Necromancy.
 
That's probably because my notes only cover the Clans actually at K8P. Thanks for pointing it out.



Did he say that?
You did tell us bringing a guy made of gold while we pay them silver
Could you point to a statement by Boney saying it won't go well?

(Also, which Kurgan? All of these tribes are Kurgan.)
Dude's made of gold and they're getting paid silver.
I took this to mean brining a guy made of gold to talks would be a bad idea. If I am wrong j am sorry.

Edit my bad I meant brining Johan to the meeting with either tribe. Since a man made of gold would be tempting to tribes who raid and loot each other.
 
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