Fayhem
Definitely not an escaped SCP
- Location
- At large
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Dooo iiiitt. Give in to your desires. Vote for the trip to Chaos Vegas.
Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
- Thread starter Boney
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To reframe the discussion a bit, imagine if when we asked about what Snorri was doing it turns out he spends 3/4 of his time sitting around chatting rather than things like scouting and arranging shifts. Sure he makes the case he needs to have a solid relationship with his fellows but does that really send the message that he's reliable and should be listened to in comparison to the situation where the ratio he spends directly on his job is 3/4 of his time?
As a scenario more directly related to Mathilde, is Ruprecht more likely to take it on faith that she's correct when she says Dum is hopeless and they should turn back in the case where she spent 3 social actions with him, or in the scenario where she's bolstered her credibility having torn back Vlag from the grips of chaos in a scenario no one else even fathomed was possible? Or more speculatively, is Snorri more likely to trust her read that a position should be abandoned from a history of conversations or from her having previously brought forewarning of a skaven/chaos dwarf raid?
Generally Mathilde's social networking heavy lifting is not accomplished by being a charming conversationalist, but by accomplishing great things that people are impressed by.
As a scenario more directly related to Mathilde, is Ruprecht more likely to take it on faith that she's correct when she says Dum is hopeless and they should turn back in the case where she spent 3 social actions with him, or in the scenario where she's bolstered her credibility having torn back Vlag from the grips of chaos in a scenario no one else even fathomed was possible? Or more speculatively, is Snorri more likely to trust her read that a position should be abandoned from a history of conversations or from her having previously brought forewarning of a skaven/chaos dwarf raid?
Generally Mathilde's social networking heavy lifting is not accomplished by being a charming conversationalist, but by accomplishing great things that people are impressed by.
As evidenced by the fact that our diplomacy is mediocre at best.
- Pronouns
- He
[X] Visit Uzkulak, the Chaos Dwarf equivalent to Barak Varr
[X] Visit the combes that Qrech told you about
[X] Visit the combes that Qrech told you about
- Location
- Russia
There's much more to resistance to Colleges getting electoral vote than conservatism of elites and animosity towards wizards. Reikland traditionally commands bloc of five votes - Sigmarites' and Moot's with its own of 15, which would mean Reikland EC needs only three votes, but anyone else has to secure seven votes out of eight free ones (Middenland votes for themselves, Ar-Ulric votes for Middenland), 6/8 for EC of Middenland. Inclusion of sixteenth Colleges' vote grants Reikland another guaranteed vote, surest of them all (naturally Colleges wouldn't want for Altdorf to lose capital status, and they are connected to this specific city more than Cult of Sigmar and of course Halflings of the Moot), and now anyone needs 9 votes for majority, so while for Reikland things technically doesn't change, anyone else except Middenland has to secure all the eight votes, 7/8 for Middenland - something next to impossible given all the constant provincial feuds.
Therefore Elector Counts of provinces will stand to an end against College vote in fear of such vote bloc reliably securing Reiklander dynastic succession of Empire, which would likely lead to increasing centralization. Granted, such established vote blocs could likely destabilize - Moot in particular could certainly break off and start offering their vote - but immediate threat of such bloc would be enough to almost all provincial politicians.
Therefore Elector Counts of provinces will stand to an end against College vote in fear of such vote bloc reliably securing Reiklander dynastic succession of Empire, which would likely lead to increasing centralization. Granted, such established vote blocs could likely destabilize - Moot in particular could certainly break off and start offering their vote - but immediate threat of such bloc would be enough to almost all provincial politicians.
- Location
- Europa, Jupiter Orbit
We're not visiting all the combes, we're visiting one. And not because it's the most likely to cause us problems, but because we know someone from there.
That said, I can think of one reason why visiting that specific combe might be strategically valid: Enough familiarity to actually facilitate infiltration and scouting.
@BoneyM What has Qrech told us about his old home? Is there anything relevant or actionable about the location itself that could be considered a reason to visit it over other Skaven bases for reasons other than curiosity and familiarity?
He resigned the moment we made the Wurtbard Watch into the Stirland Watch and rewrote its foundational papers into something more malleable that would officially be under the Spymaster. We didn't get the chance to actually give him any commands because he considered us not having the authority to do so until we showed him black on white, upon which he quit.
Partially hedging. If for whatever reason a different one of the four Moulder-held combes organizes an attack against us then visiting the Fourth-and-Final won't warn us at all.
There's plenty more examples if we choose those that we've interacted with more than once. To mind come Heidi, Regimand, Anton, Ulthar, Thorek, Kasmir, Panoramia and Cython.
Even if the Church loved Mathilde in particular that doesn't mean they are willing to give trust and power to the Supreme Patriarch (a position won by Wizard Duel) and all of his successors for all perpetuity until the end of the Empire in its current form.
- Location
- Brazil
[X] Visit Uzkulak, the Chaos Dwarf equivalent to Barak Varr
[X] Visit the combes that Qrech told you about
[X] Visit the combes that Qrech told you about
- Location
- Aotearoa
Ulrikadrin an independent, allied, less powerful, economically intertwined neighbour.
But still, independent. Belegar has a diplomat to Ulrikadrin (Hubert), they're not in fealty to him.
Guile
Having a really great time right now
So, totally tangent to this guy's actual point, but Mathilde is so goddamn fun.
Practically every scene of the updates you linked had some memorable or memeable line. The scene with Ruprecht, who is one of the least interesting characters we've Social'd, was bursting with personality from 'Between you and Hubert we've rethought out position on Wizards' 'Well between you and Hubert I've rethought my position on Ulricans' to 'I just wanted to ask where you stood' '... You first.' to this little gem:
She turned 'Oh yeah, I've heard of Mathilde Weber' into 'My actions have the stamp of approval from the Emperor himself' without batting an eyelash.
So cool.
deathofrats0808
Don’t think of it as dying; just as leaving early
- Location
- Earth
The Reikland normally commands 4, the Moot varies a bunch. As a note, you also need 2/3rds of the votes to become Emperor, not a simple majority.
Ericwinter
Definitely not a Skaven Infiltrator
- Location
- America
My favorite was Little Franz, although the opening and the one with Belegar are actually pretty poignant given recent events. Yet again, the gates of Karaz-a-Karak will probably be opened to aid a reclaimed Karak, and yet again stone will be given a chance to heal. And yet again, it's all Mathilde's fault.
- Location
- Outside the Box
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Unless one of the other options gains a ton of votes all of a sudden, the only way for us to not go to Uzkulak is if both the combes and Ruprecht get enough votes to knock Uzkulak into sixth place. And all three are extremely close in votes right now.
- Location
- Spain
I am not against scouting, but we only have 5 AP and there are more interesting options...
Plus the chances of Scouting wining at this point are extremely small, so many people woný vote for them...
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- Location
- Aotearoa
We can still only be in one place at a time, while our hundreds of monstrous wilderness knights can cover far more ground, over much longer timescales.
Mathilde would if anything be better deployed as a follow up when the scouts report back to the Council saying "there's some specific and dangerous-looking point or event over there", rather than as one person ranging around on the off-chance we see something.
fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
- Location
- Tempe, AZ
We have many people that can scout overland. We are the only ones that can effectively scout underground.
So, this bit. Hubert is a wizard, so he should be a single color, and get Ulgu colors there when lieing.
Is this an inconsistency, is Mathilde bluffing, or does a lying wizard still attract Ulgu, just not like a human.
- Location
- The Surface Of A Hostile Planet
She can't see the Ulgu in Hubert directly, but she can see the ambient Ulgu being attracted towards Hubert. Same way she saw Gretel's curiosity earlier.
King Arthur
The Once and Future King
Accomplish big enough deeds helping every individual EC that they owe us enough to vote as we ask on this one vote? Might be the easiest and most likely to work path?
Which is still a ridiculously difficult and time consuming thing to do, though I think we might at least be theoretically capable of it. Still, lotta stuff on the list before we even have the time to start seriously considering solving massive problems for every individual EC.
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- Location
- The Void
[X] Visit Uzkulak, the Chaos Dwarf equivalent to Barak Varr
- Location
- Greece
Only 13 more Great Deeds to go and we can do it.
- Location
- Mexico
Do votes need unanimity or just majority? We might be closer than we think.