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I am not versed enough in lore to answer that question, but I am pretty sure the whole thing is pitched as a council among equals rather than a vassal-liege relationship, from what we have seen and based on how the empire functions. And being an expy of HRE doesn't mean its 1:1 .
Mootland doesn't match your idea, though, so as Marienburg. I mean, how could've Emperor gift/sell someone else's property in that case?

As evidenced by the fact that our diplomacy is mediocre at best.
I have to point, that 14 is good for a secondary stat. Sure, "pro diplomat" should have more (not necesarily does have, tho). But for average person? Pretty neat.
 
And then the thread votes for a big boat instead.

Alternatively, use all 13 Great Deeds and our Super Dwarven Boon to get both of them to back us in taking over the Border Princes.

Between both of them we can probably do it, and then just fill the border between the Border Princes and the Badlands with as many superweapons as possible.

We probably need to retake Iron Rock first, put a superweapon on Iron Rock and Barak Varr which the Dawi would probably be willing to pay for because it protects their own holds directly, and then just fill the space in between with as many superweapons as possible.

............

Not the most practical of plans, but it's fun to speculate.
 
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It's better than the human average of 10, but we aren't a random peasant. For a Grey Lord Magister, mediocre is the best you could call it IMO
14 Intrigue been enough to get us position of EC's advisor... Sure, a "weak" EC, and not without some help from "those guys in masks", but still. So, as I said, good for a secondary stat.
The thing with Greys, and not only Lords, that Diplomacy is primary stat for many of them.
 
14 Intrigue been enough to get us position of EC's advisor... Sure, a "weak" EC, and not without some help from "those guys in masks", but still. So, as I said, good for a secondary stat.
The thing with Greys, and not only Lords, that Diplomacy is primary stat for many of them.

It was enough to get us the position in Stirland with a Lahmian conspiracy working towards it.
 
Alternatively, use all 13 Great Deeds and our Super Dwarven Boon to get both of them to back us in taking over the Border Princes.

Between both of them we can probably do it, and then just fill the border between the Border Princes and the Badlands with as many superweapons as possible.

We probably need to retake Iron Rock first, put a superweapon on Iron Rock and Barak Varr which the Dawi would probably be willing to pay for because it protects their own holds directly, and then just fill the space in between with as many superweapons as possible.

............

Not the most practical of plans, but it's fun to speculate.
The problem with taking the Border Princes isn't actually taking it, as I understand it. It's holding onto it when the inevitable Waaaghs of orcs come to visit.
 
You're making Omegahugger's arguments for him btw
In times of war, an army.
In times of peace, untiring labour for Panoramia's "Jade Eden" Ecological Restoration Programme?
I suppose they have their reasons.
"Better to live free..."?
"I'm not giving up, I'm changing the engagement. They're not going to trust anything we say. You know how you befriend a paranoid stray? You don't grab it by the scruff of the neck, you just leave some food out and leave it to it. Eventually it realizes that you're not out to hurt it."
The voice of experience, befriending Morr the stray.
 
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Fully Necromantic Luxury Gay Communism.
It just lacks that "je ne sauis commie" if it's not in space tbh. The Skraven have a space program afaik? We should liberate our comrades from their shackles by attacking and dethroning their god and go with them on wild and hoopy adventures!

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But a short "necromancy is not evil and I can produce infinite motive force from these skeletons"/"Person [in medieval fantasy setting] gets access to friendly replicator (Star Trek or Star Gate (at least, ones that aren't people))" just sounds like a really nice power fantasy romp to read 50-70k words or so that's just... really appealing atm
 
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