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I feel anything we say right now will just provoke an attack- she is very done talking to us. It has little use here except as a very momentary distraction.
 
So first of all do we have any confirmation about what form her shades take? Are they invisible intangible souls floating around? Mutilated souls stuffed back into living bodies? Something else?

Onmur said:
Oh, I know, but honestly, better luck capturing and throwing them into the slammer.

I care more to give the actual good people out there the feeling of safety and the dignity they deserve. I believe the people that actually would take a chance at doing better, those who actually deserve help, would be better served knowing that we don't honor monsters.

KB will likely use this against us, so we will have to start throwing our word around. Talk with Nadia, with all our friends and allies, let them know what Riona is, and why we chose to do a public service to the world.

Our word shouldn't have worth for unrepentant murderers and those on that level of humanity.

There's actual good people out there who need help.
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Got to agree with the other posters here, there's no real reason we should make a second meeting part of our explicit plan especially not if we're going to do it outside the privacy zone. We've got telepathy up anyway so if want a second meeting we can negotiate it at any time later on.

Kaizuki said:
The only question I'm really interested in asking her is the basic "Did you never consider the obvious method of getting your sister back by working with someone else?"

If she isn't interested in the obviously workable option, that should say something, whether it's that she's irredeemable or that shes been lied to awfully well.

...

Simply, she's told us her problem. We should point out the obvious solution and see if she bites. If she doesn't, drop the privacy sphere and timestop conference.

[X] Verbally agree.
-[X] One last thing though: did she never consider that she could have just bribed a potential? Fulfil their wish and then some in exchange for their wish to bring her sister back?
[X] Listen to her response. If it isn't extraordinary, drop the privacy sphere and call for timestop.
[X] Drop the sphere and call timestop.
[X] Meeting: Homu Saya Mami Brina
-[X] Explain the content of the conversation you just had, as well as relevant background (Nadia)
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Not bad, however I'm a broken record and as always. Why not ask for the timestop as soon as possible? Preparations are important and it seems like a good idea to have as much protection up as possible. It's unlikely but there's a worrying possibility she'll escalate and potentially attack Mami before we can properly end the meeting and leave. Now I'm going to reiterate that I think it's very unlikely this will happen but it's the sort of thing we should put up defenses against even on the slim possibility it will occur.

There was also a pretty good idea mentioned before about setting up a privacy sphere before entering timestop, if we're dealing with invisible intangible shades touching us a privacy sphere should probably block out any signal that could bring Riona along with us to the timestop.

Also fulfil should be spelled fulfill.


Godwinson said:
[X] Use grief to communicate with Mami, have her call for Homura to timestop now. Give Rionna no time outside of the privacy field to send commands to her shades.
-[X] While doing this, continue speaking to Rionna so as to distract her from what you're doing. Get her attention focused entirely on you.
[X] Once in timestop, bring in Sayaka. Explain what you've learned about Rionna to them. You're not going to let that stand.
-[X] Explain plan to team, ask for input and advice.
--[X] Plan: Have Sayaka enchant an antimagic box that suppresses Rionna's magic (and only Rionna's magic) with her copy of Kirika's power. Timestop degem Rionna immediately into the box. Have Sayaka copy Rionna's magic, so that we can try to put the shades to rest, and have access to someone who can diagnose soul maladies on hand. Keep Rionna's body healed and on-ice for the foreseeable future, until we've got enough other girls working with us, and stability, to try to rehabilitate her.
[X] If anything goes wrong during this plan, and Rionna looks to become combat capable again, immediately degem with all needed force.

We do not give the murderous magical girl a window of opportunity to set her mind controlled minions to havoc in a populated area, or to attack our friends. We meet with our friends and present them with a plan, but accept their advice and input.

Sabrina is pro-active.
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I think I like this plan the best. It's also a lot like my plan and why would I argue for my own plan if I didn't think it was good?

I'd say we should also grab extra contingencies while we're at it. Soul protection enchantments, sending clones and not going in person to keep our soul gems far away from her, maybe some sort of shade detector? I don't think there's any sort of kill like overkill in this sort of situation.

(note the plan I made before, yep shamelessly selling it here.)
[X] Plan Cautious Optimism
-[X] "I didn't intend for you to feel trapped, this is merely a privacy device to allow us to talk without being overheard by Kyubey or other parties, if it makes you feel uneasy I'll certainly turn if off although I do request that any further conversation not be about serious topics"
-[X] Simultaneously communicate with Mami using Grief and ask for a Homrua Timestop Meeting.
-[X] Grab everyone and hold a timestop meeting.
--[X] we have background music if it makes everyone feel better about spending time in timestop.
-[X] Set up preparations for dealing with Riona.
-[X] If we decide not to attack.
--[X] Get back into position and continue the meeting, take down the privacy field.
--[X] Tell Riona that in light of her circumstances, attitude and the attempted mental alteration we ask that she not attack, make shades, or use magic without permission during her time here.
--[X] Ask if she wishes to continue to talk without the privacy field.
--[X] Set up another meeting.

Edit: Also is it OK to vote for multiple plans? It's OK in most quests I've been in but I just want to make sure.
 
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I like both Godwinson and Kaizuki's votes, I want one of them to win, and I do not want Onmur's vote to win since it waits for several minutes after allowing Rionna back into contact before engaging timestop.

Which is slightly frustrating because it honestly doesn't seem like a lot of the people voting for Onmur have actually been keeping up with the thread.

So between those two, can we please vote strategically?
 
@Kaizuki
I'm not certain what the "convince a potential to wish for what Rionna wants" bit of your vote is supposed to do. Sabrina isn't going to let Rionna walk, here. And knowing what we do about her, well, it means that if she did walk, then we have a murderous slaver who is intent on convincing someone to trade their soul for what she wants, by whatever means she can contrive. Which leaves aside how remarkably... not-Sabrina-like it is to encourage someone else to contract (even at a step removed).

But beyond that, what's the intended aim of that line?
Adhoc vote count started by Godwinson on Sep 11, 2018 at 10:16 PM, finished with 144981 posts and 43 votes.
  • [X] Agree to end the meeting shortly.
    -[X] Tell Riona you regret that she wasn't able to find what she was searching for here.
    [X] Release the Field.
    -[X] Be attentinve in case Riona tries anything.
    [X] Before letting her be, call her out and get concessions in exchange for her actions, without pissing her off too badly:
    -[X] Priority: Arrange a new meeting before she leaves, with plenty of time to spare.
    -[X] Priority: She does not attack nor use magic against anyone in Mitakihara.
    -[X] She'll answer all our questions next meeting.
    [X] Leave. Get distance but stay within your sensing range. Be inconspicuous. Then:
    -[X] Timestop meeting. Include Sayaka.
    -[X] Explain everything. Avoid social bombs.
    --[X] Make it clear you'll hold back your own opinions until they've heard everything. Give as unbiased a re-telling of events as possible.
    -[X] Listen to their opinions and break to voting before sharing what you want to do.
    [X] Verbally agree.
    -[X] One last thing though: did she never consider that she could have just bribed a potential? Fulfil their wish and then some in exchange for their wish to bring her sister back?
    [X] Listen to her response. If it isn't extraordinary, drop the privacy sphere and call for timestop.
    [X] Call timestop via grief.
    [X] Meeting: Homu Saya Mami Brina
    -[X] Explain the content of the conversation you just had, as well as relevant background (Nadia)
    [X] You intend to gem her, barring objections.
    -[X] and to have Sayaka copy her power from the gem.
    [X] Use grief to communicate with Mami, have her call for Homura to timestop now. Give Rionna no time outside of the privacy field to send commands to her shades.
    -[X] While doing this, continue speaking to Rionna so as to distract her from what you're doing. Get her attention focused entirely on you.
    [X] Once in timestop, bring in Sayaka. Explain what you've learned about Rionna to them. You're not going to let that stand.
    -[X] Explain plan to team, ask for input and advice.
    --[X] Plan: Have Sayaka enchant an antimagic box that suppresses Rionna's magic (and only Rionna's magic) with her copy of Kirika's power. Timestop degem Rionna immediately into the box. Have Sayaka copy Rionna's magic, so that we can try to put the shades to rest, and have access to someone who can diagnose soul maladies on hand. Keep Rionna's body healed and on-ice for the foreseeable future, until we've got enough other girls working with us, and stability, to try to rehabilitate her.
    [X] If anything goes wrong during this plan, and Rionna looks to become combat capable again, immediately degem with all needed force.
    [X] null
    [X] Call Mami for an emergency timestop meeting.
    [X] On timestop, make sure the whole group (Homura, Mami and Sayaka) is in the meeting
    [X] Discuss the situation in timestop with Homura, Mami, and Sayaka.
    [X] Agree to end the meeting shortly.
    -[X] Tell Riona you regret that she wasn't able to find what she was searching for here.
    [X] Release the Field.
    [X] Before letting her be, call her out and get concessions in exchange for her actions, without pissing her off too badly:
    -[X] Priority: Arrange a new meeting before she leaves, with plenty of time to spare.
    -[X] Priority: She does not attack nor use magic against anyone in Mitakihara.
    -[X] She'll answer all our questions next meeting.
    [X] Go. Once you're away:
    -[X] Timestop meeting. Include Sayaka.
    -[X] Explain everything. Avoid social bombs. Don't take sides, be impartial.
    [X] Kill her
    [x] Fine. Release the isolation field.
    [x] Tell Riona you regret that she wasn't able to find what she was searching for here.
    [x] Given the circumstance, while it's regrettable, I agree it's best that you leave Mitakihara at your earliest convenience. Further I must insist that you don't create anymore shades in our city for any reason or I'm afraid conflict will be unavoidable. That said, wish her a good night.
    [x] Leave with Mami. You're done here.
    [x] When you're out a considerable range from Riona, contact Homura by phone for a timestop meeting. Update Homura and Mami of the situation. You weren't able to come to any agreement with Riona. Bring up Riona's intentions to leave in the morning and threat assessment. Avoid social bombs.
    [X] Try that shit again on anyone in your territory, or hurt anyone in Mitakihara, and her life is forfeit.
    [X] You'll let her go, but she's crossed a lot of lines—showing up in your territory without warning, permission, or excuse, trying to mind control you without provocation, making demands in exchange for nothing—so you'll be taking something in exchange. Your teammate is going to copy her power before she leaves this privacy sphere. It won't harm her or her power in any way, nor can it be used to track or monitor her. But you'll be getting SOMETHING out of all the trouble she's caused you.
    [X] Agree to end the conversation, but not before calling Riona out on everything: she's crossed a lot of lines—showing up in your territory without warning, permission, or excuse, trying to mind control you without provocation, making demands in exchange for nothing...
    -[X] Meanwhile, call Mami via grief for an emergency timestop meeting.
    [X] On timestop, make sure the whole group (Homura, Mami and Sayaka) is in the meeting
    [X] Discuss the situation in timestop with Homura, Mami, and Sayaka.
    [x] Ensure she doesn't leave this bubble under her own power, either by calling a meeting and then alpha-striking her or by alpha-striking her right now.
    [X] Shrug casually
    -[X] Alright. Wasn't planning on keeping you trapped anyways, anti-spy zone is for spies like QB, not you.
    --[X] Release the field, hug Mami, telepathically request time-stop.
    ---[X] Discuss.
    [X] Cleansing offer.
    [X] If that's so, then when and why did she go from seeking justice to judging people without knowing their crimes, unjustly taking other people's sisters? When did she give up, and start spending her time inflicting pain instead of trying to get her sister back?
    [X] Don't allow her to leave. Don't allow her to harm you. Don't allow her to harm herself. Use all means necessary.
    [X] Talk to her:
    -[X] There are/were options. Just as an example, she could have cut a deal with a potential, that she would fulfill their wish and some in exchange for them using their wish to bring back her sister. Somebody somewhere would go for it. Healing is a common enough wish, and not difficult to provide.
    -[X] Argue that the only thing she's accomplished with her current track has been to inflict pain on others and deny herself any hope of getting what she actually wants.
    -[X] Argue that the incubator tries to provoke isolation and infighting for a reason: less cooperation means less chance of people getting what they want, and thus better rates of witching. She could always punish the architect if she's not satisfied yet. A shot at that, you can provide.
    [X] Plan Cautious Optimism
    -[X] "I didn't intend for you to feel trapped, this is merely a privacy device to allow us to talk without being overheard by Kyubey or other parties, if it makes you feel uneasy I'll certainly turn if off although I do request that any further conversation not be about serious topics"
    -[X] Simultaneously communicate with Mami using Grief and ask for a Homrua Timestop Meeting.
    -[X] Grab everyone and hold a timestop meeting.
    --[X] we have background music if it makes everyone feel better about spending time in timestop.
    -[X] Set up preparations for dealing with Riona.
    -[X] If we decide not to attack.
    --[X] Get back into position and continue the meeting, take down the privacy field.
    --[X] Tell Riona that in light of her circumstances, attitude and the attempted mental alteration we ask that she not attack, make shades, or use magic without permission during her time here.
    --[X] Ask if she wishes to continue to talk without the privacy field.
    --[X] Set up another meeting.
    [x] Nudge Mami to call for timestop.
    -[x] Consult with allies.
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WorldSlayer said:
Edit: Also is it OK to vote for multiple plans? It's OK in most quests I've been in but I just want to make sure.
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It is not. I've also never seen a quest where one voter could vote for multiple plans. I've seen quests where approval voting from a list of presented options was permitted...
Adhoc vote count started by Godwinson on Sep 11, 2018 at 10:23 PM, finished with 144985 posts and 44 votes.
  • [X] Use grief to communicate with Mami, have her call for Homura to timestop now. Give Rionna no time outside of the privacy field to send commands to her shades.
    -[X] While doing this, continue speaking to Rionna so as to distract her from what you're doing. Get her attention focused entirely on you.
    [X] Once in timestop, bring in Sayaka. Explain what you've learned about Rionna to them. You're not going to let that stand.
    -[X] Explain plan to team, ask for input and advice.
    --[X] Plan: Have Sayaka enchant an antimagic box that suppresses Rionna's magic (and only Rionna's magic) with her copy of Kirika's power. Timestop degem Rionna immediately into the box. Have Sayaka copy Rionna's magic, so that we can try to put the shades to rest, and have access to someone who can diagnose soul maladies on hand. Keep Rionna's body healed and on-ice for the foreseeable future, until we've got enough other girls working with us, and stability, to try to rehabilitate her.
    [X] If anything goes wrong during this plan, and Rionna looks to become combat capable again, immediately degem with all needed force.
    [X] Agree to end the meeting shortly.
    -[X] Tell Riona you regret that she wasn't able to find what she was searching for here.
    [X] Release the Field.
    -[X] Be attentinve in case Riona tries anything.
    [X] Before letting her be, call her out and get concessions in exchange for her actions, without pissing her off too badly:
    -[X] Priority: Arrange a new meeting before she leaves, with plenty of time to spare.
    -[X] Priority: She does not attack nor use magic against anyone in Mitakihara.
    -[X] She'll answer all our questions next meeting.
    [X] Leave. Get distance but stay within your sensing range. Be inconspicuous. Then:
    -[X] Timestop meeting. Include Sayaka.
    -[X] Explain everything. Avoid social bombs.
    --[X] Make it clear you'll hold back your own opinions until they've heard everything. Give as unbiased a re-telling of events as possible.
    -[X] Listen to their opinions and break to voting before sharing what you want to do.
    [X] null
    [X] Call Mami for an emergency timestop meeting.
    [X] On timestop, make sure the whole group (Homura, Mami and Sayaka) is in the meeting
    [X] Discuss the situation in timestop with Homura, Mami, and Sayaka.
    [X] Agree to end the meeting shortly.
    -[X] Tell Riona you regret that she wasn't able to find what she was searching for here.
    [X] Release the Field.
    [X] Before letting her be, call her out and get concessions in exchange for her actions, without pissing her off too badly:
    -[X] Priority: Arrange a new meeting before she leaves, with plenty of time to spare.
    -[X] Priority: She does not attack nor use magic against anyone in Mitakihara.
    -[X] She'll answer all our questions next meeting.
    [X] Go. Once you're away:
    -[X] Timestop meeting. Include Sayaka.
    -[X] Explain everything. Avoid social bombs. Don't take sides, be impartial.
    [X] Kill her
    [x] Fine. Release the isolation field.
    [x] Tell Riona you regret that she wasn't able to find what she was searching for here.
    [x] Given the circumstance, while it's regrettable, I agree it's best that you leave Mitakihara at your earliest convenience. Further I must insist that you don't create anymore shades in our city for any reason or I'm afraid conflict will be unavoidable. That said, wish her a good night.
    [x] Leave with Mami. You're done here.
    [x] When you're out a considerable range from Riona, contact Homura by phone for a timestop meeting. Update Homura and Mami of the situation. You weren't able to come to any agreement with Riona. Bring up Riona's intentions to leave in the morning and threat assessment. Avoid social bombs.
    [X] Try that shit again on anyone in your territory, or hurt anyone in Mitakihara, and her life is forfeit.
    [X] You'll let her go, but she's crossed a lot of lines—showing up in your territory without warning, permission, or excuse, trying to mind control you without provocation, making demands in exchange for nothing—so you'll be taking something in exchange. Your teammate is going to copy her power before she leaves this privacy sphere. It won't harm her or her power in any way, nor can it be used to track or monitor her. But you'll be getting SOMETHING out of all the trouble she's caused you.
    [X] Agree to end the conversation, but not before calling Riona out on everything: she's crossed a lot of lines—showing up in your territory without warning, permission, or excuse, trying to mind control you without provocation, making demands in exchange for nothing...
    -[X] Meanwhile, call Mami via grief for an emergency timestop meeting.
    [X] On timestop, make sure the whole group (Homura, Mami and Sayaka) is in the meeting
    [X] Discuss the situation in timestop with Homura, Mami, and Sayaka.
    [x] Ensure she doesn't leave this bubble under her own power, either by calling a meeting and then alpha-striking her or by alpha-striking her right now.
    [X] Shrug casually
    -[X] Alright. Wasn't planning on keeping you trapped anyways, anti-spy zone is for spies like QB, not you.
    --[X] Release the field, hug Mami, telepathically request time-stop.
    ---[X] Discuss.
    [X] Cleansing offer.
    [X] If that's so, then when and why did she go from seeking justice to judging people without knowing their crimes, unjustly taking other people's sisters? When did she give up, and start spending her time inflicting pain instead of trying to get her sister back?
    [X] Don't allow her to leave. Don't allow her to harm you. Don't allow her to harm herself. Use all means necessary.
    [X] Talk to her:
    -[X] There are/were options. Just as an example, she could have cut a deal with a potential, that she would fulfill their wish and some in exchange for them using their wish to bring back her sister. Somebody somewhere would go for it. Healing is a common enough wish, and not difficult to provide.
    -[X] Argue that the only thing she's accomplished with her current track has been to inflict pain on others and deny herself any hope of getting what she actually wants.
    -[X] Argue that the incubator tries to provoke isolation and infighting for a reason: less cooperation means less chance of people getting what they want, and thus better rates of witching. She could always punish the architect if she's not satisfied yet. A shot at that, you can provide.
    [X] Plan Cautious Optimism
    -[X] "I didn't intend for you to feel trapped, this is merely a privacy device to allow us to talk without being overheard by Kyubey or other parties, if it makes you feel uneasy I'll certainly turn if off although I do request that any further conversation not be about serious topics"
    -[X] Simultaneously communicate with Mami using Grief and ask for a Homrua Timestop Meeting.
    -[X] Grab everyone and hold a timestop meeting.
    --[X] we have background music if it makes everyone feel better about spending time in timestop.
    -[X] Set up preparations for dealing with Riona.
    -[X] If we decide not to attack.
    --[X] Get back into position and continue the meeting, take down the privacy field.
    --[X] Tell Riona that in light of her circumstances, attitude and the attempted mental alteration we ask that she not attack, make shades, or use magic without permission during her time here.
    --[X] Ask if she wishes to continue to talk without the privacy field.
    --[X] Set up another meeting.
    [x] Nudge Mami to call for timestop.
    -[x] Consult with allies.
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Adhoc vote count started by Godwinson on Sep 11, 2018 at 10:25 PM, finished with 144985 posts and 44 votes.
  • [X] Use grief to communicate with Mami, have her call for Homura to timestop now. Give Rionna no time outside of the privacy field to send commands to her shades.
    -[X] While doing this, continue speaking to Rionna so as to distract her from what you're doing. Get her attention focused entirely on you.
    [X] Once in timestop, bring in Sayaka. Explain what you've learned about Rionna to them. You're not going to let that stand.
    -[X] Explain plan to team, ask for input and advice.
    --[X] Plan: Have Sayaka enchant an antimagic box that suppresses Rionna's magic (and only Rionna's magic) with her copy of Kirika's power. Timestop degem Rionna immediately into the box. Have Sayaka copy Rionna's magic, so that we can try to put the shades to rest, and have access to someone who can diagnose soul maladies on hand. Keep Rionna's body healed and on-ice for the foreseeable future, until we've got enough other girls working with us, and stability, to try to rehabilitate her.
    [X] If anything goes wrong during this plan, and Rionna looks to become combat capable again, immediately degem with all needed force.
    [X] Agree to end the meeting shortly.
    -[X] Tell Riona you regret that she wasn't able to find what she was searching for here.
    [X] Release the Field.
    -[X] Be attentinve in case Riona tries anything.
    [X] Before letting her be, call her out and get concessions in exchange for her actions, without pissing her off too badly:
    -[X] Priority: Arrange a new meeting before she leaves, with plenty of time to spare.
    -[X] Priority: She does not attack nor use magic against anyone in Mitakihara.
    -[X] She'll answer all our questions next meeting.
    [X] Leave. Get distance but stay within your sensing range. Be inconspicuous. Then:
    -[X] Timestop meeting. Include Sayaka.
    -[X] Explain everything. Avoid social bombs.
    --[X] Make it clear you'll hold back your own opinions until they've heard everything. Give as unbiased a re-telling of events as possible.
    -[X] Listen to their opinions and break to voting before sharing what you want to do.
    [X] null
    [X] Call Mami for an emergency timestop meeting.
    [X] On timestop, make sure the whole group (Homura, Mami and Sayaka) is in the meeting
    [X] Discuss the situation in timestop with Homura, Mami, and Sayaka.
    [X] Agree to end the meeting shortly.
    -[X] Tell Riona you regret that she wasn't able to find what she was searching for here.
    [X] Release the Field.
    [X] Before letting her be, call her out and get concessions in exchange for her actions, without pissing her off too badly:
    -[X] Priority: Arrange a new meeting before she leaves, with plenty of time to spare.
    -[X] Priority: She does not attack nor use magic against anyone in Mitakihara.
    -[X] She'll answer all our questions next meeting.
    [X] Go. Once you're away:
    -[X] Timestop meeting. Include Sayaka.
    -[X] Explain everything. Avoid social bombs. Don't take sides, be impartial.
    [X] Kill her
    [x] Fine. Release the isolation field.
    [x] Tell Riona you regret that she wasn't able to find what she was searching for here.
    [x] Given the circumstance, while it's regrettable, I agree it's best that you leave Mitakihara at your earliest convenience. Further I must insist that you don't create anymore shades in our city for any reason or I'm afraid conflict will be unavoidable. That said, wish her a good night.
    [x] Leave with Mami. You're done here.
    [x] When you're out a considerable range from Riona, contact Homura by phone for a timestop meeting. Update Homura and Mami of the situation. You weren't able to come to any agreement with Riona. Bring up Riona's intentions to leave in the morning and threat assessment. Avoid social bombs.
    [X] Try that shit again on anyone in your territory, or hurt anyone in Mitakihara, and her life is forfeit.
    [X] You'll let her go, but she's crossed a lot of lines—showing up in your territory without warning, permission, or excuse, trying to mind control you without provocation, making demands in exchange for nothing—so you'll be taking something in exchange. Your teammate is going to copy her power before she leaves this privacy sphere. It won't harm her or her power in any way, nor can it be used to track or monitor her. But you'll be getting SOMETHING out of all the trouble she's caused you.
    [X] Agree to end the conversation, but not before calling Riona out on everything: she's crossed a lot of lines—showing up in your territory without warning, permission, or excuse, trying to mind control you without provocation, making demands in exchange for nothing...
    -[X] Meanwhile, call Mami via grief for an emergency timestop meeting.
    [X] On timestop, make sure the whole group (Homura, Mami and Sayaka) is in the meeting
    [X] Discuss the situation in timestop with Homura, Mami, and Sayaka.
    [x] Ensure she doesn't leave this bubble under her own power, either by calling a meeting and then alpha-striking her or by alpha-striking her right now.
    [X] Shrug casually
    -[X] Alright. Wasn't planning on keeping you trapped anyways, anti-spy zone is for spies like QB, not you.
    --[X] Release the field, hug Mami, telepathically request time-stop.
    ---[X] Discuss.
    [X] Cleansing offer.
    [X] If that's so, then when and why did she go from seeking justice to judging people without knowing their crimes, unjustly taking other people's sisters? When did she give up, and start spending her time inflicting pain instead of trying to get her sister back?
    [X] Don't allow her to leave. Don't allow her to harm you. Don't allow her to harm herself. Use all means necessary.
    [X] Talk to her:
    -[X] There are/were options. Just as an example, she could have cut a deal with a potential, that she would fulfill their wish and some in exchange for them using their wish to bring back her sister. Somebody somewhere would go for it. Healing is a common enough wish, and not difficult to provide.
    -[X] Argue that the only thing she's accomplished with her current track has been to inflict pain on others and deny herself any hope of getting what she actually wants.
    -[X] Argue that the incubator tries to provoke isolation and infighting for a reason: less cooperation means less chance of people getting what they want, and thus better rates of witching. She could always punish the architect if she's not satisfied yet. A shot at that, you can provide.
    [X] Plan Cautious Optimism
    -[X] "I didn't intend for you to feel trapped, this is merely a privacy device to allow us to talk without being overheard by Kyubey or other parties, if it makes you feel uneasy I'll certainly turn if off although I do request that any further conversation not be about serious topics"
    -[X] Simultaneously communicate with Mami using Grief and ask for a Homrua Timestop Meeting.
    -[X] Grab everyone and hold a timestop meeting.
    --[X] we have background music if it makes everyone feel better about spending time in timestop.
    -[X] Set up preparations for dealing with Riona.
    -[X] If we decide not to attack.
    --[X] Get back into position and continue the meeting, take down the privacy field.
    --[X] Tell Riona that in light of her circumstances, attitude and the attempted mental alteration we ask that she not attack, make shades, or use magic without permission during her time here.
    --[X] Ask if she wishes to continue to talk without the privacy field.
    --[X] Set up another meeting.
    [x] Nudge Mami to call for timestop.
    -[x] Consult with allies.
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Adhoc vote count started by Aranfan on Sep 11, 2018 at 10:16 PM, finished with 144980 posts and 43 votes.
  • [X] Agree to end the meeting shortly.
    -[X] Tell Riona you regret that she wasn't able to find what she was searching for here.
    [X] Release the Field.
    -[X] Be attentinve in case Riona tries anything.
    [X] Before letting her be, call her out and get concessions in exchange for her actions, without pissing her off too badly:
    -[X] Priority: Arrange a new meeting before she leaves, with plenty of time to spare.
    -[X] Priority: She does not attack nor use magic against anyone in Mitakihara.
    -[X] She'll answer all our questions next meeting.
    [X] Leave. Get distance but stay within your sensing range. Be inconspicuous. Then:
    -[X] Timestop meeting. Include Sayaka.
    -[X] Explain everything. Avoid social bombs.
    --[X] Make it clear you'll hold back your own opinions until they've heard everything. Give as unbiased a re-telling of events as possible.
    -[X] Listen to their opinions and break to voting before sharing what you want to do.
    [X] Verbally agree.
    -[X] One last thing though: did she never consider that she could have just bribed a potential? Fulfil their wish and then some in exchange for their wish to bring her sister back?
    [X] Listen to her response. If it isn't extraordinary, drop the privacy sphere and call for timestop.
    [X] Call timestop via grief.
    [X] Meeting: Homu Saya Mami Brina
    -[X] Explain the content of the conversation you just had, as well as relevant background (Nadia)
    [X] You intend to gem her, barring objections.
    -[X] and to have Sayaka copy her power from the gem.
    [X] Use grief to communicate with Mami, have her call for Homura to timestop now. Give Rionna no time outside of the privacy field to send commands to her shades.
    -[X] While doing this, continue speaking to Rionna so as to distract her from what you're doing. Get her attention focused entirely on you.
    [X] Once in timestop, bring in Sayaka. Explain what you've learned about Rionna to them. You're not going to let that stand.
    -[X] Explain plan to team, ask for input and advice.
    --[X] Plan: Have Sayaka enchant an antimagic box that suppresses Rionna's magic (and only Rionna's magic) with her copy of Kirika's power. Timestop degem Rionna immediately into the box. Have Sayaka copy Rionna's magic, so that we can try to put the shades to rest, and have access to someone who can diagnose soul maladies on hand. Keep Rionna's body healed and on-ice for the foreseeable future, until we've got enough other girls working with us, and stability, to try to rehabilitate her.
    [X] If anything goes wrong during this plan, and Rionna looks to become combat capable again, immediately degem with all needed force.
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    [X] Call Mami for an emergency timestop meeting.
    [X] On timestop, make sure the whole group (Homura, Mami and Sayaka) is in the meeting
    [X] Discuss the situation in timestop with Homura, Mami, and Sayaka.
    [X] Agree to end the meeting shortly.
    -[X] Tell Riona you regret that she wasn't able to find what she was searching for here.
    [X] Release the Field.
    [X] Before letting her be, call her out and get concessions in exchange for her actions, without pissing her off too badly:
    -[X] Priority: Arrange a new meeting before she leaves, with plenty of time to spare.
    -[X] Priority: She does not attack nor use magic against anyone in Mitakihara.
    -[X] She'll answer all our questions next meeting.
    [X] Go. Once you're away:
    -[X] Timestop meeting. Include Sayaka.
    -[X] Explain everything. Avoid social bombs. Don't take sides, be impartial.
    [X] Kill her
    [x] Fine. Release the isolation field.
    [x] Tell Riona you regret that she wasn't able to find what she was searching for here.
    [x] Given the circumstance, while it's regrettable, I agree it's best that you leave Mitakihara at your earliest convenience. Further I must insist that you don't create anymore shades in our city for any reason or I'm afraid conflict will be unavoidable. That said, wish her a good night.
    [x] Leave with Mami. You're done here.
    [x] When you're out a considerable range from Riona, contact Homura by phone for a timestop meeting. Update Homura and Mami of the situation. You weren't able to come to any agreement with Riona. Bring up Riona's intentions to leave in the morning and threat assessment. Avoid social bombs.
    [X] Try that shit again on anyone in your territory, or hurt anyone in Mitakihara, and her life is forfeit.
    [X] You'll let her go, but she's crossed a lot of lines—showing up in your territory without warning, permission, or excuse, trying to mind control you without provocation, making demands in exchange for nothing—so you'll be taking something in exchange. Your teammate is going to copy her power before she leaves this privacy sphere. It won't harm her or her power in any way, nor can it be used to track or monitor her. But you'll be getting SOMETHING out of all the trouble she's caused you.
    [X] Agree to end the conversation, but not before calling Riona out on everything: she's crossed a lot of lines—showing up in your territory without warning, permission, or excuse, trying to mind control you without provocation, making demands in exchange for nothing...
    -[X] Meanwhile, call Mami via grief for an emergency timestop meeting.
    [X] On timestop, make sure the whole group (Homura, Mami and Sayaka) is in the meeting
    [X] Discuss the situation in timestop with Homura, Mami, and Sayaka.
    [x] Ensure she doesn't leave this bubble under her own power, either by calling a meeting and then alpha-striking her or by alpha-striking her right now.
    [X] Shrug casually
    -[X] Alright. Wasn't planning on keeping you trapped anyways, anti-spy zone is for spies like QB, not you.
    --[X] Release the field, hug Mami, telepathically request time-stop.
    ---[X] Discuss.
    [X] Cleansing offer.
    [X] If that's so, then when and why did she go from seeking justice to judging people without knowing their crimes, unjustly taking other people's sisters? When did she give up, and start spending her time inflicting pain instead of trying to get her sister back?
    [X] Don't allow her to leave. Don't allow her to harm you. Don't allow her to harm herself. Use all means necessary.
    [X] Talk to her:
    -[X] There are/were options. Just as an example, she could have cut a deal with a potential, that she would fulfill their wish and some in exchange for them using their wish to bring back her sister. Somebody somewhere would go for it. Healing is a common enough wish, and not difficult to provide.
    -[X] Argue that the only thing she's accomplished with her current track has been to inflict pain on others and deny herself any hope of getting what she actually wants.
    -[X] Argue that the incubator tries to provoke isolation and infighting for a reason: less cooperation means less chance of people getting what they want, and thus better rates of witching. She could always punish the architect if she's not satisfied yet. A shot at that, you can provide.
    [X] Plan Cautious Optimism
    -[X] "I didn't intend for you to feel trapped, this is merely a privacy device to allow us to talk without being overheard by Kyubey or other parties, if it makes you feel uneasy I'll certainly turn if off although I do request that any further conversation not be about serious topics"
    -[X] Simultaneously communicate with Mami using Grief and ask for a Homrua Timestop Meeting.
    -[X] Grab everyone and hold a timestop meeting.
    --[X] we have background music if it makes everyone feel better about spending time in timestop.
    -[X] Set up preparations for dealing with Riona.
    -[X] If we decide not to attack.
    --[X] Get back into position and continue the meeting, take down the privacy field.
    --[X] Tell Riona that in light of her circumstances, attitude and the attempted mental alteration we ask that she not attack, make shades, or use magic without permission during her time here.
    --[X] Ask if she wishes to continue to talk without the privacy field.
    --[X] Set up another meeting.
    [x] Nudge Mami to call for timestop.
    -[x] Consult with allies.
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Godwinson said:
But beyond that, what's the intended aim of that line?
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I can't speak for Kaizuki, but if there's an actual reason the idea wasn't followed, it might help us to know for when *we* first attempt resurrections.

E.g whether the magical potential required is too high, or if Riona thinks that the person brought back isn't the real one, or if the wishes need correspond to actual desires of the magical girl, or whatever - whatever flaw she perceives our idea having is valuable information that we currently lack.
 
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@Kaizuki
I'm not certain what the "convince a potential to wish for what Rionna wants" bit of your vote is supposed to do. Sabrina isn't going to let Rionna walk, here. And knowing what we do about her, well, it means that if she did walk, then we have a murderous slaver who is intent on convincing someone to trade their soul for what she wants, by whatever means she can contrive. Which leaves aside how remarkably... not-Sabrina-like it is to encourage someone else to contract (even at a step removed).

But beyond that, what's the intended aim of that line?
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I mean, so, the intention was that if she responded positively then "just" AM the fuck out of her and demand everything and the kitchen sink on the premise of setting up something reasonable down the line. Something like "Oh Sayaka you want to wish for your grandmother to be in better health? If you'll agree to wish back this girls sister after, I'll heal her for 150hrs till she feels young again *and* give you a life pension *and*..."

But, um... It occurs to me that we could just as well do all that after gemming her.

And that we then don't have to deal with things like "what if she mindfucks a potential."

... Yeah.

So, uh... Hm.

... Mreh. Well, in that case.

[X] Godwinson
 
Godwinson said:
It is not. I've also never seen a quest where one voter could vote for multiple plans. I've seen quests where approval voting from a list of presented options was permitted...
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Actually I think that's what I meant. For example if I like both your plan and Onmur's and can't decide between them is it fine to vote for both?

Edit: But since we've only got the one choice.

[X] Null

Edit: again

I dunno what I want anymore.
 
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This thread doesn't have that set up. You only vote for one thing.

Also, i feel in her current state she will either hide or ambush us if we give her several minutes alone.

She is clearly *pissed* right now that we overpower her and disapprove of her. If we just leave she is definitely going to prep for a fight.
 
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[X] Use grief to communicate with Mami, request immediate timestop. Give Rionna no time outside of the privacy field to send commands to her shades.
-[X] While doing this, continue speaking to Rionna so as to distract her from what you're doing. Get her attention focused entirely on you.
[X] Once in timestop, create a griefhax soul viewing effect (like the one used to observe Oriko's soul), and use it to avoid any lingering shades. Go bring in Sayaka. Explain what you've learned about Rionna to them. You're not going to let that stand.
-[X] Explain plan to team, ask for input and advice.
--[X] Plan: Obtain an antimagic box that suppresses Rionna's magic (and not ours) using Kirika's enchantment. Timestop degem Rionna immediately into the box, with an antimagic pulse from Sayaka active as you do. Have Sayaka try to copy Rionna's magic, so that we can try to put the shades to rest, and have access to someone who can diagnose soul maladies on hand. Keep Rionna's body in stasis in Homura's shield, until we've got enough other girls working with us, and stability, to try to rehabilitate her.
[X] If anything goes wrong during this plan, and Rionna looks to become combat capable again, immediately degem with all needed force.

@Godwinson

My tactical suggestions.

Also, Sayaka's never tried making an enchantment with her copied powers before, and this isn't a scenario for new and experimental methods. Better to get Kirika to do it, in my opinion.

Also also, Kirika needs personal experience with someone's magic to attune her antimagic to it for whitelisting. I suspect blacklisting would be similar, so it's probably easier to get a box that's universally antimagic, with an exception for the Mitakihara Group, then it is to get one specifically blocking just Rionna's magic. Probably more secure too.
 
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If we're deciding to do this now:

[X] Call out Riona on her attack, and on not trying to have someone Wish her sister back.
[X] At the same time, signal Mami to tag you and Homura and have Homura activate her magic.
-[X] If Riona is somehow included in timestop:
--[X] Act first: Detain Riona with Grief Fog, take the Gem, threaten to break it.
--[X] If anything goes wrong, no holds barred. Purée her. Save the Gem unless Riona still tries to attack.
--[X] Otherwise, continue.

[X] In timestop:
-[X] Leave, convene with Mami and Homura.
--[X] Things went wrong, get Sayaka and go to Oriko's. Insist if needed.
--[X] Get Kirika to enchant everything you might need to antimagic Riona, Gem and body.*
--[X] Explain eveything. Avoid Social Bombs.
-[X] Plan (listen to opinions):
--[X] Blast Riona and her surrounding area with Anti Magic (Sayaka and Kirika).
--[X] Use Anti Magic restraints on Riona and her Gem.
--[X] Restrain Riona completely.
--[X] Mami and Homura know their roles better than you do.
-[X] Enact plan.

[X] If Riona's successfully restrained, don't drop timestop.**


*Kirika's the one who knows how to enchant Anti Magic; as KB said, Sayaka would need a lot of practice to learn to enchant with her copied powers.

**Sayaka copying Riona's not to happen while Riona has her powers, and not until Sayaka's Witchbombed, so it must be left for later. Later can be a microsecond later, thanks to timestop giving us all the time we need to have a long talk about Witches with Sayaka.
 
Redshirt Army said:
I'd like to get a "avoid tripping Rionna's shades, use griefhax as necessary" addition to @Onmur 's vote, but it otherwise looks good.
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I'm trying to think really hard how to go about doing that... but we can't sense the things...

The whole
-[X] If Riona is somehow included in timestop:
--[X] Act first: Detain Riona with Grief Fog, take the Gem, threaten to break it.
--[X] If anything goes wrong, no holds barred. Purée her. Save the Gem unless Riona still tries to attack.
--[X] Otherwise, continue.
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Is there in case one of Riona's shades or their powers do manage to pull Riona into timestop.

How could we go about avoiding the shades?

Stay completely still in timestop and try to make sensors?
 
@Redshirt Army
Modified vote in order to take your points into account.

[X] Use grief to communicate with Mami, have her call for Homura to timestop now. Give Rionna no time outside of the privacy field to send commands to her shades.
-[X] While doing this, continue speaking to Rionna so as to distract her from what you're doing. Get her attention focused entirely on you.
[X] Once in timestop, explain shade hazard then create a griefhax soul viewing effect (like the one used to observe Oriko's soul), and use it to avoid any lingering shades, then bring in Sayaka. Explain what you've learned about Rionna to them. You're not going to let that stand.
-[X] Explain plan to team, ask for input and advice.
--[X] Plan: Have Sayaka or Kirika enchant an antimagic box that suppresses Rionna's magic (and not our group's). Timestop degem Rionna immediately into the box while blasting antimagic at her. Have Sayaka try to copy Rionna's magic, so that we can try to put the shades to rest, and have access to someone who can diagnose soul maladies on hand. Keep Rionna's body stored in Homura's shield or our hammerspace for the foreseeable future, until we've got enough other girls working with us, and stability, to try to rehabilitate her.
[X] If anything goes wrong during this plan, and Rionna looks to become combat capable again, immediately degem with all needed force.
 
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[X] Onmur

Gadjo said:
This thread doesn't have that set up. You only vote for one thing.

Also, i feel in her current state she will either hide or ambush us if we give her several minutes alone.

She is clearly *pissed* right now that we overpower her and disapprove of her. If we just leave she is definitely going to prep for a fight.
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We just no-selled her soul-trick, are in a field that resists her powers, can stop her heart with a thought, and her immediate reaction to stress was telling us to screw off and let her go rather than prep for "actual" combat. Escalating the situation to lethal levels would be the worst decision she could want to make in this situation.
 
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*Grumbles about how good it would be to give Sayaka and Kirika a pair of Magic/Power Gems so they can Anti Magic Blast Riona reaaaaal good, lamenting the fact it would take too long to make those*

@Redshirt Army
Do you think your line and Brinapilot should be enough?
 
[X] Godwinson
Adhoc vote count started by cmwatford on Sep 11, 2018 at 11:33 PM, finished with 144996 posts and 45 votes.
  • [X] Use grief to communicate with Mami, have her call for Homura to timestop now. Give Rionna no time outside of the privacy field to send commands to her shades.
    -[X] While doing this, continue speaking to Rionna so as to distract her from what you're doing. Get her attention focused entirely on you.
    [X] Once in timestop, explain shade hazard then create a griefhax soul viewing effect (like the one used to observe Oriko's soul), and use it to avoid any lingering shades, then bring in Sayaka. Explain what you've learned about Rionna to them. You're not going to let that stand.
    -[X] Explain plan to team, ask for input and advice.
    --[X] Plan: Have Sayaka or Kirika enchant an antimagic box that suppresses Rionna's magic (and not our group's). Timestop degem Rionna immediately into the box. Have Sayaka try to copy Rionna's magic, so that we can try to put the shades to rest, and have access to someone who can diagnose soul maladies on hand. Keep Rionna's body stored in Homura's shield or our hammerspace for the foreseeable future, until we've got enough other girls working with us, and stability, to try to rehabilitate her.
    [X] If anything goes wrong during this plan, and Rionna looks to become combat capable again, immediately degem with all needed force.
    [X] Call out Riona on her attack, and on not trying to have someone Wish her sister back.
    [X] At the same time, signal Mami to tag you and Homura and have Homura activate her magic.
    -[X] If Riona is somehow included in timestop:
    --[X] Act first: Detain Riona with Grief Fog, take the Gem, threaten to break it.
    --[X] If anything goes wrong, no holds barred. Purée her. Save the Gem unless Riona still tries to attack.
    --[X] Otherwise, continue.
    [X] In timestop:
    -[X] Leave, convene with Mami and Homura.
    --[X] Things went wrong, get Sayaka and go to Oriko's. Insist if needed.
    --[X] Get Kirika to enchant everything you might need to antimagic Riona, Gem and body.*
    --[X] Explain eveything. Avoid Social Bombs.
    -[X] Plan (listen to opinions):
    --[X] Blast Riona and her surrounding area with Anti Magic (Sayaka and Kirika).
    --[X] Use Anti Magic restraints on Riona and her Gem.
    --[X] Restrain Riona completely.
    --[X] Mami and Homura know their roles better than you do.
    -[X] Enact plan.
    [X] If Riona's successfully restrained, don't drop timestop.**
    [X] null
    [X] Call Mami for an emergency timestop meeting.
    [X] On timestop, make sure the whole group (Homura, Mami and Sayaka) is in the meeting
    [X] Discuss the situation in timestop with Homura, Mami, and Sayaka.
    [X] Agree to end the meeting shortly.
    -[X] Tell Riona you regret that she wasn't able to find what she was searching for here.
    [X] Release the Field.
    [X] Before letting her be, call her out and get concessions in exchange for her actions, without pissing her off too badly:
    -[X] Priority: Arrange a new meeting before she leaves, with plenty of time to spare.
    -[X] Priority: She does not attack nor use magic against anyone in Mitakihara.
    -[X] She'll answer all our questions next meeting.
    [X] Go. Once you're away:
    -[X] Timestop meeting. Include Sayaka.
    -[X] Explain everything. Avoid social bombs. Don't take sides, be impartial.
    [X] Kill her
    [x] Fine. Release the isolation field.
    [x] Tell Riona you regret that she wasn't able to find what she was searching for here.
    [x] Given the circumstance, while it's regrettable, I agree it's best that you leave Mitakihara at your earliest convenience. Further I must insist that you don't create anymore shades in our city for any reason or I'm afraid conflict will be unavoidable. That said, wish her a good night.
    [x] Leave with Mami. You're done here.
    [x] When you're out a considerable range from Riona, contact Homura by phone for a timestop meeting. Update Homura and Mami of the situation. You weren't able to come to any agreement with Riona. Bring up Riona's intentions to leave in the morning and threat assessment. Avoid social bombs.
    [X] Try that shit again on anyone in your territory, or hurt anyone in Mitakihara, and her life is forfeit.
    [X] You'll let her go, but she's crossed a lot of lines—showing up in your territory without warning, permission, or excuse, trying to mind control you without provocation, making demands in exchange for nothing—so you'll be taking something in exchange. Your teammate is going to copy her power before she leaves this privacy sphere. It won't harm her or her power in any way, nor can it be used to track or monitor her. But you'll be getting SOMETHING out of all the trouble she's caused you.
    [X] Agree to end the conversation, but not before calling Riona out on everything: she's crossed a lot of lines—showing up in your territory without warning, permission, or excuse, trying to mind control you without provocation, making demands in exchange for nothing...
    -[X] Meanwhile, call Mami via grief for an emergency timestop meeting.
    [X] On timestop, make sure the whole group (Homura, Mami and Sayaka) is in the meeting
    [X] Discuss the situation in timestop with Homura, Mami, and Sayaka.
    [x] Ensure she doesn't leave this bubble under her own power, either by calling a meeting and then alpha-striking her or by alpha-striking her right now.
    [X] Shrug casually
    -[X] Alright. Wasn't planning on keeping you trapped anyways, anti-spy zone is for spies like QB, not you.
    --[X] Release the field, hug Mami, telepathically request time-stop.
    ---[X] Discuss.
    [X] Cleansing offer.
    [X] If that's so, then when and why did she go from seeking justice to judging people without knowing their crimes, unjustly taking other people's sisters? When did she give up, and start spending her time inflicting pain instead of trying to get her sister back?
    [X] Don't allow her to leave. Don't allow her to harm you. Don't allow her to harm herself. Use all means necessary.
    [X] Talk to her:
    -[X] There are/were options. Just as an example, she could have cut a deal with a potential, that she would fulfill their wish and some in exchange for them using their wish to bring back her sister. Somebody somewhere would go for it. Healing is a common enough wish, and not difficult to provide.
    -[X] Argue that the only thing she's accomplished with her current track has been to inflict pain on others and deny herself any hope of getting what she actually wants.
    -[X] Argue that the incubator tries to provoke isolation and infighting for a reason: less cooperation means less chance of people getting what they want, and thus better rates of witching. She could always punish the architect if she's not satisfied yet. A shot at that, you can provide.
    [X] Use grief to communicate with Mami, request immediate timestop. Give Rionna no time outside of the privacy field to send commands to her shades.
    -[X] While doing this, continue speaking to Rionna so as to distract her from what you're doing. Get her attention focused entirely on you.
    [X] Once in timestop, create a griefhax soul viewing effect (like the one used to observe Oriko's soul), and use it to avoid any lingering shades. Go bring in Sayaka. Explain what you've learned about Rionna to them. You're not going to let that stand.
    -[X] Explain plan to team, ask for input and advice.
    --[X] Plan: Obtain an antimagic box that suppresses Rionna's magic (and not ours) using Kirika's enchantment. Timestop degem Rionna immediately into the box, with an antimagic pulse from Sayaka active as you do. Have Sayaka try to copy Rionna's magic, so that we can try to put the shades to rest, and have access to someone who can diagnose soul maladies on hand. Keep Rionna's body in stasis in Homura's shield, until we've got enough other girls working with us, and stability, to try to rehabilitate her.
    [X] If anything goes wrong during this plan, and Rionna looks to become combat capable again, immediately degem with all needed force.
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Er, onmur, don't give her the idea of making someone else contract for her. She's evil enough to force someone to do it if she gets away. Also, i wouldn't call her out on attacking us before we attack. Gives her time to really try to hurt us for... no gain.
 
@Onmur: You might want to ping the 10 people whose votes you just rewrote? I was about to change mine to "[X] Onmur" only to see that your newest vote isn't an improvement on the previous one, but a completely different outcome. Usually, if someone refers their vote they assume the general direction won't radically change without a notification...

@Muramasa: Thanks for the ping, but since the only alternatives are basically attacking a guest, I'll stick with your "[X] Null". Seems appropriate.
 
We should turn off the privacy field (while in timestop) before we leave it. We don't want Riona to have any time in which she's not watched even if we're in timestop, just in case she's somehow brought into it.

I'd also pick up some kind of soul protection just in case she's fast enough to counter-attack while we're ambushing her. It's unlikely from what we've seen that she'll be capable of it but I don't think it costs us anything to spend a few minutes making a new item.
 
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