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Onmur said:
*Colors are Yuki, Rin, Sakura.

"I couldn't stand their arguing, you know?"

Suddenly smoke drifts accross the cafe.

"Always arguing, nattering about the unimportant details. Never a straight answer, no matter how much I tried, and I mean, I tried. 'Can we kneecap this gal now? No? How about now? Oh, OK, I'll wait. I'll wait while you argue about cakes and pudding. For the thirtieth time! I'm not mad about waiting. I'm not mad!"

"I didn't say you were mad."

"Good. Because I'm not."

"You're not mad."

"No, you know what? I'm not mad. You're mad. You're mad for coming here, you're mad for dealing with brain damaged over there and you're mad for wanting to fight Walpurgisnacht. I have fought Walpurgisnacht, have I told you about that?"

"No!"

"Over a hundred times.

"Eep!"

"And you, you... you remind me of them."

"What them?"

"The Tokyo girls."

CRACK!

The gun violently reracks.

"The Tokyo girls. Do you know, how many times I had to sit through an argument about power levels?"

"Many?"

"How many discussions about no holds barred murder death kill fights?"

"A lot?"

"How many times an actual fight broke out and I had to kneecap some bit-"

CRACK!

Homura slams a magazine in. She glances at Yuki.

Yuki jumps away to hide behind Mami.

"Miss Tomoe it was a pleasure to meet you I'm your biggest fan I think this defense pact will work out as long as we keep our distance but don't worry we'll call you if we have trouble you can call us anytime in fact we'll lend you Shinobu and give you five complementary Seeds-"

"We don't need Seeds."

"-We'll give you some cool enchantments and I'll teleport you anywhere I can any time for free just keep the crazy girl away from me? Great thanks Miss Sabrina Miss Mori Miss Tachibana let's go!"

In a flash Yuki drags Sabrina into the cafe, grabs a wide eyed Rin and Sakura -who, sensing Homura's murderous glare on her, promptly teleports away.

To Sendai.

With Mami having been dragged along the way as consequence of being latched onto Sabrina.

Yuki collapses on the ground.

"We're safe..."

"What the hell-"

"Holy shit fuck what-"

"-Was that?!"

Sakura whirls to face a placid Sabrina.

"You mean you could have brought that- her along when we fought?!"

Sabrina shrugs.

"Hey. She's the defense team, everyone else is the away team. Need to keep things balanced. I mean, we could have all stayed home and sent Homura to deal with you lot, but we wanted you alive, you know?"

"... Fuck."

"Great job, Homura. I don't know how you pulled that off, but it was terrifying. You got us a crazy good deal, so I totally owe you for this one."

"You do."

"Can I pay you in hugs?"

"... I'm feeling something."

"Catharsis?"

"What's that?"

"I'll... explain later."

The shaken meguca eventually calmed down enough to go back to Mitakihara, with plenty of reassurances they wouldn't meet the scary violet eyed magical girl this time.

Meanwhile, Sabrina hugged Mami.
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Now edited for proper gun safety :V
 
We should have two threat models in mind.
Violent magical girls, and Walpurgisnacht.

@Vebyast also has proper intent to clarify our pact, the purpose of our meeting.

Voting considerations are non-trivial right now. Yuki is a powerhouse, but has lead-time and fixed position limitations. We need to determine what her magic could really do for us. To start with, a bolt hole for Madoka is a fine idea. But only one enchanted property will actually draw attention, thus preventing safe use. We also need to refine how Yuki can serve her own interests during a fight with WN. A series of nodes miles away from downtown, in other towns around the bay, are my first pick.
Then there is the whole "does she want architecture with ready made golems" question. It could be a fine extension of her mannequin attack.

Must ask Mami where the big statues are?

Working on coding this, will try tomorrow.
 
Vebyast said:
Second, we can offer to put them in touch with Hitomi's parents. Strategic teleportation, walpy-shortlist force fields, gravity manipulation, and top-tier healing. If Akiko recovers enough, add walpy-shortlist hydrokinesis. They'd make an absolutely amazing team for humanitarian aid following natural disasters or conflicts. Going out and helping people doesn't necessarily mean intervening. Probably put them in touch with hackerguca to get the equivalent of a police scanner.
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As nice that sounds we should vet them and add conditions even if they are Hitomi's parents, adults do have their own agendas. Also we haven't met the father yet.

Nice to hear all the Sabrina leader points guys.
 
Dirtnap said:
Is this Murderface? seems to have a thing for kneecaps, but no gravelly (whiskey and smoke induced) voice.
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Actually, what came first: the egg or the bird?

Or, in this context: have people started calling Homura "Murderface" before or after that funfic?
"Kneecaps are a privilege, not a right." comes to mind.
 
Well... Defense pact wise, I'm thinking we should address Yuki's enemies. Rather than wait for them to attack and help defend (and then Socialing them into taking a Clear Seed and blah blah blah), we could be proactive and ask that Yuki tries to reach out and make peace with these groups and help us spread Clear Seeds at the same time. Good for them, good for us, we probably can send Oriko out to help with this.


Yuki being willing to talk with Rin is basically a godsend. I can't think of anything marvellous we could mention to Rin and Sakura right now, so just k thx bye?


So ideas. I don't have many.

[] Defense pact.
-[] Adress Yuki's enemies: Rather than wait to be attacked, work together to reach out and make peace, bringing them Clear Seeds if they can be reasoned with.
[] Yuki's Nexus.
-[Q] What the fuck, Homu
-[] Homura's suggestion.
[] Ask about Yuki's help in reaching other meguca groups.

[] Ask Yuki for her impression of Rin and her group after they talk. Nothing confidential, we're just worried.

[] Anri's transfer, Anti Magic Enchantments.
-[Q] Hug Oriko. You know, we didn't really hug her ourself, she just participated in the same group hug we did, grumble grumble...
-[Q] Comment about Kirikannon.

[] Rin and Sakura: Just thank them again before parting ways.
 
I know we're busy right now, but does anyone want to talk with Homura a bit?

About, you know, how horrified she should be feeling about agreeing and interacting with Sayaka of all people, or maybe congratulating her on her initiative with asking Hitomi for help?


... And did we ever decide what we were gonna do during enchantment practice? Or what we'd like to ask Mami to practice?

I remember ideas about seeing if Mami could make some magical tripwires to put around Anri's previously theorized prison-in-Mitakihara, and around...

Oh, right, about getting O&K some more freedom. It would be useful if we had a way to keep track of O&K and make sure they don't leave a theorical restricted area. That way, maybe at least Homu would be fine letting them out of the house? Mami can probably help here.

Now, Sayaka on the other hand... she hates Oriko's guts for good reason. How to convince a raspberry to give O&K freedoms, beyond being honest and explaining how the house arrest is basically gonna drive them back into craziness? :confused:
 
[X] Hug Mami
Adhoc vote count started by Madou Sutegobana on Mar 12, 2018 at 8:28 PM, finished with 134118 posts and 3 votes.
  • [X] Hug Mami
    [X] Defense pact
    - [X] Anything more to ask? Ask about expected enemies, warn about the Soujuus, and also ask about Kamaishi City.
    - [X] Lay down more terms?
    [X] Yuki's Nexus
    - [X] Homura's suggestion
    [X] Move on to transfer Airi and the antimagic enchantment.
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Yay, joke votes.


I wonder if this is allowed? :V

[X] Defense pact.
-[X] About Yuki's enemies: Preempting them, reaching out and making peace. Spreading Clear Seeds.
--[X] Extend this to every group Yuki could introduce us to.
-[X] Ask if we can help with the Anti Magic Cannon.
[X] Yuki's Nexus.
-[X] Homura's suggestion.

[X] Ask Yuki for her impression of Rin and her group after they talk. Nothing confidential, we're just worried.

[X] Anri's transfer, Anti Magic Enchantments.
[X] Ask Kirika to check the IRCs Nadia provided.

[X] Rin and Sakura: Just thank them again before parting ways.
 
Onmur said:
Yay, joke votes.


I wonder if this is allowed? :V

[X] Defense pact.
-[X] About Yuki's enemies: Preempting them, reaching out and making peace. Spreading Clear Seeds.
--[X] Extend this to every group Yuki could introduce us to.
-[X] Ask if we can help with the Anti Magic Cannon.
[X] Yuki's Nexus.
-[X] Homura's suggestion.

[X] Ask Yuki for her impression of Rin and her group after they talk. Nothing confidential, we're just worried.

[X] Anri's transfer, Anti Magic Enchantments.
[X] Ask Kirika to check the IRCs Nadia provided.

[X] Rin and Sakura: Just thank them again before parting ways.
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About your plan, Onmur. Looks good, buuuuuuuut-
If we're going viral with the Seeds, maybe we need to work out some algorithm? From the most desperate to the jerkiest jerks in New Jersey the neighborhood? As in, after the pact is sealed, sitting down with her for a minute and asking for the rundown of all Meguca groups in Western Japan, up to Tokyo? ( Mitakihara is in Western Japan, right? )
Tell her we'll be considerate with the groups she'd name as her past enemies, and we will mention that they are in defensive pact with us now, when appropriate?
Goddamit, I don't know how to put it into the vote format.

About Rin and Sakura, honestly, I feel like they are our control group. Many girls will react similarly, if not exactly the same, as the Sendai Megucas. In fact, other Megucas we've met don't react like that because they all have shit to do. They keep busy, and many of them seem to want to remain in Magical Girl business, the madwomen.

That doesn't really mean Sendai girls have to. Mediocrity is a perfectly agreeable and socially approved way to spend your life. I'd want to ask Rin what she would think about them living normal lives. No hostile takeovers, no having a hard limit on your life expectancy, just hanging out and stuff? Although, one of the things keeping them together is Akiko, which is unhealthy af. I mean, I understand, she's their friend, she's been catatonic, muggle therapists wouldn't be able to do much even if they didn't live in Japan :V, but damn, staying together in order to look after your former leader who flew into a fit like Sabrina flies into mumihugs just isn't an ideal solution. Eh, maybe it's just me.
Adhoc vote count started by Firnagzen on Mar 13, 2018 at 6:10 AM, finished with 134158 posts and 15 votes.
  • [X] Defense pact
    -[X] Discuss proactive befriending.
    --[x] For her peace of mind, explicitly state that megucatarian aid and peacekeeping operations will not invoke the treaty.
    --[x] Ask if she'd mind sharing her address book. More allies, more clear seeds distributed, and you'd prefer to preemptively talk down conflicts.
    -[x] If no problems, sign the treaty.
    [X] Yuki's Nexus
    -[X] Homura's suggestion.
    -[x] Nudge Sayaka: Power copying?
    [X] Move on to transfer Airi and the antimagic enchantment.
    -[x] Before teleporting, check to make sure Sakura can handle the antimagic. Or you or Yuki can handle travel and sidestep the problem.
    [X] Before you forget, ask Kirika to check the IRCs Nadia provided.
    [X] Rin and Sakura
    -[x] Test for interest in muggle monemaking schemes. Mention that you have a contact with Ideas. It's something for them to do with their time, if nothing else.
    -[x] Thank them again before parting ways.
    [x] Thank Yuki for helping Rin.
    [X] Hug Mami
    [X] Defense pact
    -[X] About Yuki's enemies: Preempting them, reaching out and making peace. Spreading Clear Seeds.
    --[X] Extend this to every group Yuki could introduce us to.
    -[X] Ask if we can help with the Anti Magic Cannon.
    [X] Yuki's Nexus
    -[X] Homura's suggestion.
    [X] Ask Yuki for her impression of Rin and her group after they talk. Nothing confidential, we're just worried.
    [X] Anri's transfer, Anti Magic Enchantments.
    [X] Ask Kirika to check the IRCs Nadia provided.
    [X] Rin and Sakura: Just thank them again before parting ways.
    [X] Defense pact
    - [X] Anything more to ask? Ask about expected enemies, warn about the Soujuus, and also ask about Kamaishi City.
    - [X] Lay down more terms?
    [X] Yuki's Nexus
    - [X] Homura's suggestion
    [X] Move on to transfer Airi and the antimagic enchantment.
    [x] After negotiations are finished, ask Yuki if we can hug her.
    [X] Defense pact
    -[X] About Yuki's enemies: Preempting them, reaching out and making peace. Spreading Clear Seeds.
    --[X] Extend this to every group Yuki could introduce us to.
    -[X] Ask if we can help with the Anti Magic Cannon.
    [X] Yuki's Nexus
    -[X] Homura's suggestion.
    [X] Ask Yuki for her impression of Rin and her group after they talk. Nothing confidential, we're just worried.
    [X] Anri's transfer, Anti Magic Enchantments.
    [X] Ask Kirika to check the IRCs Nadia provided.
    [X] Rin and Sakura: Just thank them again before parting ways.
    [x] After negotiations are finished, ask Yuki if we can hug her.
    [x] Za Warudo!
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Raiseth said:
About your plan, Onmur. Looks good, buuuuuuuut-
If we're going viral with the Seeds, maybe we need to work out some algorithm? From the most desperate to the jerkiest jerks in New Jersey the neighborhood? As in, after the pact is sealed, sitting down with her for a minute and asking for the rundown of all Meguca groups in Western Japan, up to Tokyo? ( Mitakihara is in Western Japan, right? )
Tell her we'll be considerate with the groups she'd name as her past enemies, and we will mention that they are in defensive pact with us now, when appropriate?
Goddamit, I don't know how to put it into the vote format.

About Rin and Sakura, honestly, I feel like they are our control group. Many girls will react similarly, if not exactly the same, as the Sendai Megucas. In fact, other Megucas we've met don't react like that because they all have shit to do. They keep busy, and many of them seem to want to remain in Magical Girl business, the madwomen.

That doesn't really mean Sendai girls have to. Mediocrity is a perfectly agreeable and socially approved way to spend your life. I'd want to ask Rin what she would think about them living normal lives. No hostile takeovers, no having a hard limit on your life expectancy, just hanging out and stuff? Although, one of the things keeping them together is Akiko, which is unhealthy af. I mean, I understand, she's their friend, she's been catatonic, muggle therapists wouldn't be able to do much even if they didn't live in Japan :V, but damn, staying together in order to look after your former leader who flew into a fit like Sabrina flies into mumihugs just isn't an ideal solution. Eh, maybe it's just me.
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I have no thoughts in my head today but what if we got the Sendais into social media.

It sounds like a terrible idea.
 
Onmur said:
I have no thoughts in my head today but what if we got the Sendais into social media.

It sounds like a terrible idea.
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Mmm, how about lying to Hitomi's mom to arrange for a job in Human Resources management? I'm torn between offering Head Manager's position to Akiko or Sakura.
 
Raiseth said:
Mmm, how about lying to Hitomi's mom to arrange for a job in Human Resources management? I'm torn between offering Head Manager's position to Akiko or Sakura.
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We should put Anri in charge and make Akiko and Sakura her assistants.

But that's after we have Oriko play magic with the stock market.
 
Onmur said:
I know we're busy right now, but does anyone want to talk with Homura a bit?

About, you know, how horrified she should be feeling about agreeing and interacting with Sayaka of all people, or maybe congratulating her on her initiative with asking Hitomi for help?
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Both of these, and also maybe asking her for some storytime? We haven't really heard that much about past loops or her interactions outside Mitakihara, but the level of trust/value (which?) she's indicated to Yuki at multiple points seems like it would be a very interesting update to read.

Also, a thought.... is there a specific reason why we're not including Kyouko (and thus Yuma) in the defense talks? Is she still too much on the outskirts, moreso even than O&K to our group?
 
AuraTwilight said:
On one hand I'm surprised that Homura's comfortable letting the Fukushima group have a teleport node that close to Madoka's house but on the other hand it's entirely in character for her to want to be able to invoke teleporting uber badasses to defend Madoka's house.
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I viewed it more as "this would make a fantastic place for Madoka to take shelter in during the Walpurgisnacht attack, and if need be, Yuki could teleport her to a different city in the blink of an eye."
@Jrin Sabrina is a terrible fucking leader.
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Not really? It's important to note that Sabrina already does a lot of the leading of the Mitakihara team. She's the one who has taken initiative and led team efforts, most of the time. She's also usually the pointman for handling crises.

Mami is the closest thing to the official leader, though, for a number of reasons. She's more experienced, she's more famous (for now, anyway), she's better at negotiation, she was the one who originally held and safeguarded Mitakihara for years, and she lacks brain damage.

Still, it's important to note that Team Mitakihara's leadership style is highly unusual. Decisions are basically made by consensus in all cases, and no one gives any orders. Even in battle, no one really leads--the closest thing we've had to that is Sabrina in Sendai, and that was more because she was the biggest and most versatile powerhouse in the fight.

And it works, because having an official, actual leader--regardless of who it is--really wouldn't work for the Mitakihara team. Homura is extremely stubborn and traumatized, so trying to force her to do something she doesn't want to do is both dangerous and an exercise in futility. Sabrina is ambitious, determined, and idealistic. Mami is extremely afraid of being abandoned or left behind, so her doing anything to risk breaking apart the team is out of the question. And, well, in most instances, the members of the team are so powerful that the entire team isn't needed to pursue a goal.
The Narrator said:
Sabrina often acts like the eader, because she tends to be the one who has a plan of action just by virtue of being the player character: a quest is all about decision-making, after all. But she has no actual right to declare herself the leader in-universe. Mami has the most experience (timeloops excluded) and this is her territory that we're all freeloading in.

Mami would probably allow us to depose her due to her emotional dependence on Sabrina, which means that declaring ourselves leader would be taking advantage of her, and would probably do crippling damage to her self-esteem.
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Yes, trying to officially (or even unofficially) become team leader would be harmful for Mami's self-esteem, among other things.

But Mami makes for the ideal "official" leader of the team, anyway. She knows not to step on any toes, or force any issues, or take command without the consent of the rest of the team. The team needs an official leader for diplomatic purposes, if nothing else, and everyone on the team is happy with Mami filling that role. Every member on the team also has implicit faith in the fact that Mami's priority, in terms of leadership, is keeping the team together, rather than pursuing some other goal that she decides upon (like gaining territory, forcing someone out of the territory, etc).


Now that we have confirmation that lack of purpose and direction is part of the problem, perhaps we can provide some. What's a good goal to give the Sendai group, and how do we motivate them? Put a cash bounty on witches? Send them into conflict regions to go Chapter Seven on the belligerents? Have them do recon on the Iowa group?
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Well, between Rin and Sakura, they've got enormous utiliity. Both for making money (not from meguca, but from big business executives--for the rich and powerful, time is the most limited resource, so being able to save them time, energy, and hastle by just teleporting them around would be enormously valuable, and they can easily afford to pay well. Rin is also capable of healing rich people with severe injuries or illnesses) and for helping out other meguca. Healing is a highly prized ability, and teleportation allows for rapid and easy transportation to the injured. As for what the other members of the Sendai team do--provide protection to Rin and Sakura as they travel to help out other meguca. Akiko could also use her power to help out in agriculture or drought-affected areas. Making money--to be put into a collective fund for meguca that are part of the loose-association we'd possibly form--is particularly useful.

Beyond that, though, there's the obvious: protecting the public by hunting Witches. Bonus points for passing on those Grief Seeds (or some of them, anyway) to Sabrina to turn them into Clear Seeds, for distribution. And, well, they could always work on enchantment skills.
 
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