Pet dragon sound fun, can you immagine him going "I'm gonna devor your souls" and one of the mistifs going "he is adorable, can I keep it Karen?" and another saying "he is just like my old cat if he could talk! I want it!" because seriously a pet minidragon seem like a pet mini-tiger and they make for great pets!
[X] Seal him in a less imposing physical body, with his powers sealed as well (somewhat harsh, renders him almost completely harmless while still giving him physical freedom. Implement chibi Dazarel).
I'm torn. I'm more interested in self-seal for narrative reasons, for the potential power to aid us in being a Protector and for what I feel to be a better chance at safe containment of a threat in tumultuous times.
But. I also think this could be terrible for our relationship with Jaron and Jaffur in particular -- and everyone else besides. Who wouldn't hold some fear over what we would contain? Would it directly damage our amazing diplomacy -- even as much as we stand to gain from the prestige of this legendary victory?
We're already pursuing so many paths and our split attention could have cost us dearly -- it seems like it nearly did.
Can we really afford to take on the task of reforming and even protecting Dazarel almost completely alone?
And more importantly, do we really have the right to keep the misfits from a teensy-widdle grumpy-wumpy formerly-world-ending-but-now-he's-a-good-boy, oh yes he is, Dragon?
Dazzarel knows we are saiyans so he actually can't be allowed to meet the Misfits or anyone save Maya or a member of Exile society. So no, he is not going to be a pet for the Misfits.
In addition to that, and independent of that, if we start interacting consistently with the dragon and especially if we start tapping the dragon for power, which is basically the only point of doing this at all AND the only reason the "Ambitious" trait is being applied to it...
It is not the only reason. Dazzarel is also a source of knowledge about the galaxy and by sealing him inside Kakara, we would be aware of anyone who would want to benefit about said knowledge (since they would have to ask him through us) and it would let us decide what of it we would want to leak to the population. If he has dangerous information we don't want others to know, this is the option which lets us control that.
I'm betting his 'knowledge of the galaxy' is actually fairly limited. "That planet had enough warriors who were strong enough that I couldn't be sure to beat them all before they could really hurt me, so I never went there. I can tell you all about the dozen planets over that way, or at least how they were before I made them into rubble."
Among the things he knows:
It knows about Kannasa, which is from where our seer powers come from and was actually alive when they were, around 400 years ago. It also has more information about what it means to be a psychic than presumably our seer have so it would let us have first access to said knowledge since he could only talk to us.
It also knows we are a saiyan, so we can ask about saiyans or the Enemy without arousing suspiscions unlike with the aliens. And while he admitedly knows little about them:
low, grinding snarl in the rhythm of a chuckle rings out. Ah, now there's the nerve. You know, Princess, I have longed for centuries to taste the ki of your kind. Why, you're practically a delicacy in the modern era. So few, and fewer all the time.
You frown. "Fewer? There are more of us here than there have ever been! And all of us ready to fight you!"
It growls. Spare me your threats. I do not refer to this pathetic, self-crippled backwater. I refer to that. It sweeps out a wing across the sky above. Did you forget that your last King had two sons? Your distant cousins have not been enjoying the time since your exile began. It brings its head close to yours, gleaming fangs a mere foot from your nose. Isn't it appropriate for family to share, Princess?
He huffs. I don't know any more than you! Somehow the galaxy found out that your Enemy keeps on talking about himself as an agent of the void. Void this, void that! I...hoped to borrow some menace, secondhand.
That is still more than we did and at least he can tell us where he learnt about said rumors so that we have an idea what the Enemy has been up to these last 300 years or how the galaxy fared immediately after the destruction of Earth.
It knows about Dragons and their abilities. Given some of the spoilerboxes in the thread, we might want to be careful about how much can that knowledge be spread.
It has been alive for a long time. Any information from the distant past, he is more likely to know about than a random alien. He might know things Gohan doesn't for that and might know about other such strange creatures like Dragons that it has encountered in his life and might become a threat in the future.
It implied that it knows what has Beerus and the Kais busy. We could learn it from Gohan but we don't know yet if it is something we would want spread. If we are the only ones who can talk to Dazzarel, we can also use him as an excuse as for where we learn things that in the future Gohan might tell us and that we don't want to reveal their source. Example, random trivia about the Enemy, who blocked any scrying attempts on him and thus we can't use our Sight as excuse.
And I strongly suspect that this wouldn't work, because it would be the equivalent of saying "having a dragon chattering in your head grants a free action to socialize the dragon." Given how strict Poptart is about socialize actions, I don't buy that. The limiting factor on how much time we spend interacting with people isn't our physical access to them, since most of the people we'd choose to socialize would happily spend more time with us if we wanted. It's attention; we've got so many irons in the fire and do so many things that we have to go out of our way to make time to interact with people in a way likely to significantly improve our relationship with them.
Having the dragon inside our mind, as opposed to being a chibi-dragon pet floating around the Hall or something, doesn't mean we have more time, energy, and concentration to spare for interactions with it.
Actually, something about this has been asked before. Or at least Poptart replied to a comment regarding this:
So, definitely gonna need to take an action to spend time with Dazarel next year... mellow him out through contact through Kakara. (Though, that didn't work on Dandeer...)
There's a significant extent to which you don't need to do this with somebody living in your own head, but you can.
So it would make at least minimum of socialisation, like how we still hang with the misfits to play even without especific actions to do so in the yearly plans.
Also, I get that the seal on Dazarel is SUPPOSED to be invulnerable, but I can't bring myself to totally discount the possibility of there being some way, shape, or form in which it might leak, be bypassed, or something. It's unlikely, but still at least plausible. In the sense that "if I told you the plot was that the invulnerable seal turned out to be only imperfectly invulnerable, you wouldn't really be surprised to hear that."
Didn't you mention a few pages back, when someone pointed that reforming an enemy like this wouldn't be out of place for a shonen/dragon ball genre, that Poptart can subvert expectations and thus genre savvyness should not change our reasoning overmuch? From what we know of magic, he shouldn't be able to:
We haven't brought up the possibility of allowing the dragon to put its energy through the seal to use it ourselves, so we actually don't know that it's safe to do so. We can certainly find out very quickly though!
@PoptartProdigy, would making use of Dazarel's power be dangerous, or can the sorcerers lock down any such power to be strictly under Kakara's control?
Possible. The way their envisioned seal works is as a massive wall with no seams or doors. Looking for a clever way through would be like looking at a giant steel block and saying, "yeah, I bet there's a loophole through this thing." Just...not applicable. The analogy is not perfect, though, since Kakara can, at will, change how or if it is permeable.
How exactly you would or could make use of Dazarel's power is a big unknown.
Plus what Dandelor told us about magic before:
Magic is best described as the art of literalizing concepts. Ki users can accomplish a lot of what we do, but for you it's a matter of knowing how, in the real world, that would work. You could hypnotize somebody by twisting their ki. You could level a mountain by firing your ki. You could probably make a Masque by moving the right way and changing how your signature outputs, in fact. It would just be incredibly uncomfortable, in that case. But magic requires me to express a figurative concept in a literal way. I tried to literalize my personal connection to Jaffur into a direct line of communication to what I thought was his sleeping consciousness." He looks aside, a mournful look on his face. "...it wasn't enough. I'm not close enough to him for that concept to work, and I don't have a better backup to work with. I don't have much of a teacher relationship, and I'm hardly invested with the rebel mindset beyond getting him out, so there's nothing deep enough to reach. Not even with him awake."
Our sorcerers said they work with well known concepts and that our genki dama would supercharge the spell so it would require a similar amount of power to break it with force. The only way I can see around it is if someone on the caliber of the Enemy is involved and by that point I would like to think that not only would we have bigger problems but that we would have other people who can handdle Dazzarel.
Which means I want to at least consider the possibility that having a passenger inside our body/mind who has potential access to all our secrets and secret actions, but who also has reason to wish us ill... Miiiight backfire at some point.
We may well give the dragon opportunities to learn or deduce things, despite our having "mute/deafen" buttons for the dragon's interactions with us.
Sure, we could give the dragon such opportunities under the "chibi dragon" plan, but the "chibi dragon" gives us less incentive to build a strong relationship with the dragon and rely on it for advice or power.
If you are going to be wary about something like THAT, then how about this: Dazzarel had time to read our mind before we enacted our mind delve defenses. How do we know it hasn't learned about the conspiracy to undo the sealing and has a chance to tell people if we leave him with his own body? If he is sealed inside Kakara, the only way it has to talk to other people is through Kakara. So no matter what he learns, the only way it can act on it or tell others is if he is released from the seal if he is inside of her, while the other options actually lets him conspire with other people.
Lastly...
@PoptartProdigy given that we spent half an hour before the sorcerers came with an option and that Dazzarel was open to answering questions, can we use the [ASK] votes to ask him about the context of some of the things it said? Like, he said the Galaxy somehow learned things about the Enemy and he doesn't know how but we could ask him about where he heard that. Or we could ask him what is happening to Tarble's descendants. Or about Dragons in general and what made him focus in Garenhuld so that we can avoid it in the future.
