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[X] Seal him in a less imposing physical body, with his powers sealed as well (somewhat harsh, renders him almost completely harmless while still giving him physical freedom. Implement chibi Dazarel).

A dragon buddy would be great, though I do worry about having yet another relationship/sub-plot to juggle. Getting psychic dragon powers would be very cool as well, but I'm not too confident we can gain power from internal sealing without giving him some kind of leverage over us. There's got to be something dangerous about that kind of thing, if only for the narrative drama. Plus, he'd likely be easier to befriend if he has more personal freedom.
 
[X] Seal him in a less imposing physical body, with his powers sealed as well (somewhat harsh, renders him almost completely harmless while still giving him physical freedom. Implement chibi Dazarel).

Hmm at the end, I feel like the political capital thus would cost us just wouldn't be worth it. Best thing to do would be to go for the chibi version and keep him as our ward.

This way we can keep him around us to get all the interesting conversations we might have had with him in our head. It also lets us protect him from would be assassins and reminds people of our reputation when they see him. It'd also give us a very appropriate dragon motif, which was lacking in the quest so far.

Btw @PoptartProdigy How much of this did you see coming? Did you think it would end this way?
 
[X] Seal him in your own head. You will be his prison and his warden, and see what benefits you can gain from having a dragon chained in your body (x1.25, from, "ambitious." Middling harshness, Dazarel is as restricted as the inanimate object version but has you on hand for conversation and interesting experiences, renders him completely harmless, may or may not allow Kakara to exploit him for power).
The downsides to this option appear to be mitigated to the point of the chance for greater power would easily outweigh the cons.
 
[X] Seal him in your own head. You will be his prison and his warden, and see what benefits you can gain from having a dragon chained in your body (x1.25, from, "ambitious." Middling harshness, Dazarel is as restricted as the inanimate object version but has you on hand for conversation and interestingexperiences, renders him completely harmless, may or may not allow Kakara to exploit him for power).
 
[X] Seal him into an inanimate object. Sorcerers will be able to get him visitation, so he won't be completely alone, but he will be completely disabled (harshest, completely strips any ability to affect the world aside from talking to willing, un-captive visitors).
[X] Seal him in a less imposing physical body, with his powers sealed as well (somewhat harsh, renders him almost completely harmless while still giving him physical freedom. Implement chibi Dazarel).

[X][ASK] Why are there so very few Vegetan sorcerors?
 
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[X] Seal him in your own head. You will be his prison and his warden, and see what benefits you can gain from having a dragon chained in your body (x1.25, from, "ambitious." Middling harshness, Dazarel is as restricted as the inanimate object version but has you on hand for conversation and interesting experiences, renders him completely harmless, may or may not allow Kakara to exploit him for power).
 
[X] Seal him in a less imposing physical body, with his powers sealed as well (somewhat harsh, renders him almost completely harmless while still giving him physical freedom. Implement chibi Dazarel).

[X] Seal him into an actual house cat, because you think it's funny.
-[X] With control of the body (middling harshness, Dazarel is restricted to hissing at things and scratching them. Means you could physically carry him during your day-to-day if you wanted without having to explain him to Garenhulders. Sacrifice a poor kitty).
 
...Did you read the last 2 updates?
Someone is in a mood it seems. Yes I read the last two updates, We didn't consume the spirit bomb for a permanent power up, also as has been stated before, the spirit bomb wasn't one giant independent source of power, it was a multitude of smaller powers gathered together, so it doesn't break that rule anyway. Maybe instead of jumping down my throat for making a joke go take a break and clear your own head.
 
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[X] Seal him in a less imposing physical body, with his powers sealed as well (somewhat harsh, renders him almost completely harmless while still giving him physical freedom. Implement chibi Dazarel).
 
[X] Seal him in a less imposing physical body, with his powers sealed as well (somewhat harsh, renders him almost completely harmless while still giving him physical freedom. Implement chibi Dazarel).
 
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Adhoc vote count started by Simon_Jester on Mar 1, 2018 at 6:33 PM, finished with 133 posts and 24 votes.

  • [X] Seal him in a less imposing physical body, with his powers sealed as well (somewhat harsh, renders him almost completely harmless while still giving him physical freedom. Implement chibi Dazarel).
    [X] Seal him in your own head. You will be his prison and his warden, and see what benefits you can gain from having a dragon chained in your body (x1.25, from, "ambitious." Middling harshness, Dazarel is as restricted as the inanimate object version but has you on hand for conversation and interesting experiences, renders him completely harmless, may or may not allow Kakara to exploit him for power).
    [X] Seal him into an actual house cat, because you think it's funny.
    -[X] With control of the body (middling harshness, Dazarel is restricted to hissing at things and scratching them. Means you could physically carry him during your day-to-day if you wanted without having to explain him to Garenhulders. Sacrifice a poor kitty).
    [X] Seal him into an inanimate object. Sorcerers will be able to get him visitation, so he won't be completely alone, but he will be completely disabled (harshest, completely strips any ability to affect the world aside from talking to willing, un-captive visitors).
    [X][ACTION] Fight him into submission before you do anything else.
    [X][RESOLUTION] Consult the sorcerers for their opinions on magic solutions (next update has a vote on the various options the sorcerers present).
    -[X][RESOLUTION] Interrogate him.
    --[X][RESOLUTION] Try to secure his cooperation with your decision on what to do with him.
 
That said, even without her, almost every other sorcerer on Garenhuld is present. Well over ten thousand of them in a great mass around you in their dark robes.
Over ten thousand sorcerers, all of them Gokun since we know from previous updates there are only 2 Vegetan Sorcerers. That is... wow.

We really need to study magic soon. Not only will we need it so that we can effectively use them once we improve our command training but even if the three most powerful sorcerers in our society are Vegetan (Dandeer, Dandelor and eventually Jaffur), the sheer number of Gokun sorcerers means ours is the more magically inclined.

[x] Seal him in a less imposing physical body, with his powers sealed as well (somewhat harsh, renders him almost completely harmless while still giving him physical freedom. Implement chibi Dazarel).

[x] Seal him in your own head. You will be his prison and his warden, and see what benefits you can gain from having a dragon chained in your body (x1.25, from, "ambitious." Middling harshness, Dazarel is as restricted as the inanimate object version but has you on hand for conversation and interesting experiences, renders him completely harmless, may or may not allow Kakara to exploit him for power).

These are the more appealing ones. Neither is as cruel as solitary confinement and allow us to get goodwill eventually, which would let us keep a source of information about the wider galaxy. An outdated one, admitedly, especially when taking into account that we want the aliens to settle here but it means we wouldn't rely only on them for it and he probably has knowledge on more esoteric subjects. As for which one is preferrable, each has its pros and cons. My first worry was about the seal being broken and having him inside of us meaning it is less likely that someone would get to it but the sorcerers already dispelled that with their comments on genki dama.

I think that what we face here is something of a security vs humanitarian debate. If sealed into a chibi form, he can actually plot with or give information to other people, though since we have the genki dama backing the spell they wouldn't be able to break him free. On the other hand, if he is sealed inside of us, it means that all his interactions with other people would have to go through us and while that might help getting him to rely on us, it is not necesarily good for reformation. Plus if we want to modify the seal for an extra combatant later it will likely be better if he has his own body. The issue is someone killing him if he has a body and while Poptart eased some of those worries by pointing out he would be protected, mistakes can be made and he could be killed anyways. Of course, fear of him being killed is not a good reason to trap him but given some of the RP spoiler, someone might be tempted to try if they find out.

I am tempted to give him a chibi body since it seems like the less cruel option and gives him social options besides Kakara. I will vote for both options for now but given the weighting for the inside the body option, I will likely withdraw the vote for that one later.
 
[X] Seal him in a less imposing physical body, with his powers sealed as well (somewhat harsh, renders him almost completely harmless while still giving him physical freedom. Implement chibi Dazarel).

Mwahahahahahahahaha! He shall be our much beleaguered mascot!
 
@PoptartProdigy I've got a very important question.
Are any of the exiles like Krillin in that they don't have a nose and breathe through their skin instead?
I doubt it, since Marron didn't have offspring. It says in the opening post that once she died fighting the enemy all the exiles were part saiyan and later comments from poptart say that while Marron and Uub dated for a while, the relationship never got anywhere since Uub became increasingly obsessed with trying to achieve a god form for humans. We are not descendants of Krilin, despite looking like 18 by coincidence, which is why in the texts written by people of the Faith we have seen through the quest they call him Martyr Krilin instead of Ancestor Krilin.
 
I doubt it, since Marron didn't have offspring. It says in the opening post that once she died fighting the enemy all the exiles were part saiyan and later comments from poptart say that while Marron and Uub dated for a while, the relationship never got anywhere since Uub became increasingly obsessed with trying to achieve a god form for humans. We are not descendants of Krilin, despite looking like 18 by coincidence, which is why in the texts written by people of the Faith we have seen through the quest they call him Martyr Krilin instead of Ancestor Krilin.
Though recent revelations has made it possible that the exiles lost track of a sibling or child somewhere in their history.
 
I doubt it, since Marron didn't have offspring. It says in the opening post that once she died fighting the enemy all the exiles were part saiyan and later comments from poptart say that while Marron and Uub dated for a while, the relationship never got anywhere since Uub became increasingly obsessed with trying to achieve a god form for humans. We are not descendants of Krilin, despite looking like 18 by coincidence, which is why in the texts written by people of the Faith we have seen through the quest they call him Martyr Krilin instead of Ancestor Krilin.

I honestly thought him being called Martyr was just a "Krillin gets his ass kicked" gag.
 
[X] Seal him in a less imposing physical body, with his powers sealed as well (somewhat harsh, renders him almost completely harmless while still giving him physical freedom. Implement chibi Dazarel).
 
A dragon buddy would be great, though I do worry about having yet another relationship/sub-plot to juggle. Getting psychic dragon powers would be very cool as well, but I'm not too confident we can gain power from internal sealing without giving him some kind of leverage over us. There's got to be something dangerous about that kind of thing, if only for the narrative drama. Plus, he'd likely be easier to befriend if he has more personal freedom.
It's outright mentioned to render him completely harmless, and you're still worried about "what if he could harm us". *sighs*
I doubt it, since Marron didn't have offspring. It says in the opening post that once she died fighting the enemy all the exiles were part saiyan and later comments from poptart say that while Marron and Uub dated for a while, the relationship never got anywhere since Uub became increasingly obsessed with trying to achieve a god form for humans. We are not descendants of Krilin, despite looking like 18 by coincidence, which is why in the texts written by people of the Faith we have seen through the quest they call him Martyr Krilin instead of Ancestor Krilin.
Though recent revelations has made it possible that the exiles lost track of a sibling or child somewhere in their history.
No, actually, we are descended from Krillin. Relationship didn't go anywhere =/= only relationship nor a lack of children. I believe the answer earlier in the thread was that she had a child with someone in a relationship that fell through?
 
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Adhoc vote count started by Gore17 on Mar 1, 2018 at 6:49 PM, finished with 144 posts and 27 votes.
 
[X] Seal him in a less imposing physical body, with his powers sealed as well (somewhat harsh, renders him almost completely harmless while still giving him physical freedom. Implement chibi Dazarel).

Because as much as we're told that the only way the inside-us-seal would screw up is by someone deliberately tampering with it or by us being severely hurt, those two situations would be the ABSOLUTE WORST times to have the seal screw up and have to deal with Dazarel's revenge (possibly from within our own body) and I'd just rather not risk it.
 
[x] Seal him in a less imposing physical body, with his powers sealed as well (somewhat harsh, renders him almost completely harmless while still giving him physical freedom. Implement chibi Dazarel).

I'm much less concerned about sealing him into our own head now, but I think I'd still prefer this. Maybe we can vote to carry him around with us whenever we can get away with it? If people ask we can point out how Vegeta and Piccolo were both monsters before they reformed - in fact, the Saiyan race as a whole was the same.

Someone is in a mood it seems. Yes I read the last two updates, We didn't consume the spirit bomb for a permanent power up, also as has been stated before, the spirit bomb wasn't one giant independent source of power, it was a multitude of smaller powers gathered together, so it doesn't break that rule anyway. Maybe instead of jumping down my throat for making a joke go take a break and clear your own head.

You've read a great deal of hostility into my words where there was none - I was genuinely confused. I also don't think that the powerup being temporary stops it from breaking the Overlord Rule, but I'm not really looking to argue over a throwaway comment.
 
THIS. Running commentary on everything we do, plus at least some remote chance of the seal being bypassed somehow even if it's unlikely in the extreme. UGH.
*headdesks repeatedly*
Because as much as we're told that the only way the inside-us-seal would screw up is by someone deliberately tampering with it or by us being severely hurt, those two situations would be the ABSOLUTE WORST times to have the seal screw up and have to deal with Dazarel's revenge (possibly from within our own body) and I'd just rather not risk it.
Fatally hurt. Aka, we're dead.

Also, for those concerned, @PoptartProdigy, how hard would it be for someone to tamper with the seal?
 
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