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Attempting to Fulfill the Plan: GDI Edition

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bigking321 said:
Didn't we just discover that some of the tiberium mutated persons could actually read minds and the distance greatly increased when exposed to tiberium?

I think the consensus was that nod could absolutely be spying on us that way but we had no way of knowing and nothing we could do about it anyway.

Well. Now we have mind shields.

Might be worth considering.
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NOD has a huge hateboner for the Forgotten for some reason but yeah, that is actually a problem, good thing we have Mind Shields now!
 
Sailor_Skarro said:
NOD has a huge hateboner for the Forgotten for some reason but yeah, that is actually a problem, good thing we have Mind Shields now!
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I think it ties into the simple fact the Forgotten's existence rejects Tiberium as an instrument of salvation. They're literally the forgotten few who fell through the cracks, survived the worst of Tiberium exposure, and are just now trying to eke out an existence. It's hard to reconcile their struggle for survival in an increasingly hostile world with NOD's rhetoric of how Tiberium is ultimately an uplifting force. Those most changed by it, those least vulnerable to it, those who have been most 'blessed'- are still seemingly left the lesser for it.

Now, I don't mean to say the Forgotten are self loathing or anything, but I would assume most of them would probably prefer things the way they were before Tiberium. It certainly seems like most Forgotten find GDI's rhetoric of reclaiming the world more compelling than NOD's salvation rhetoric throughout the series.
 
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Derpmind said:
For this plan, I go for only the next phase of our Earth-side facilities here... except Harper Spaceport. Unlike E-IP and Astronauts/Astrotechs, we never really get even close to using up our 80 Earth-Launch Capacity. This plan only uses 13, out of 80 total. I honestly think we already have much more than we need, so until that changes in the future we shouldn't waste resources on Harper.
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Tanegashima Space Center (Stage 4) 8 dice 160C 67%: i think this is a bit low completing the stage will increase our IP income by 50%, i expect us to do another phase later once we know the cost of the crater telescope and 2 more dice would be 40C about 4% off our cash reserves.
 
Sailor_Skarro said:
NOD has a huge hateboner for the Forgotten for some reason but yeah, that is actually a problem, good thing we have Mind Shields now!
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Nod has spent enough time fucking around and finding out with tiberium that the possibility at least crossed our minds that whatever kinds of tiberium mutation the Forgotten have reached naturally, Nod might be able to duplicate artificially in some appallingly unethical way.
 
Simon_Jester said:
Nod has spent enough time fucking around and finding out with tiberium that the possibility at least crossed our minds that whatever kinds of tiberium mutation the Forgotten have reached naturally, Nod might be able to duplicate artificially in some appallingly unethical way.
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Then they have the big problem of when it will decide to retaliate and rebel and it is a when not a if.
 
Manowl said:
Then they have the big problem of when it will decide to retaliate and rebel and it is a when not a if.
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I'm not entirely clear on what you mean by that

Nod has a bunch of weird supersoldier projects, with probably the most stable and straightforward being the one that was using tiberium infusions. Since by Tib War III that was deployable to the point where they were using it on random militants to enhance their combat performance.

The idea that they might use yet another weird supersoldier project to produce tiberium psychics doesn't seem like much of a stretch, and sure the psychics might rebel, but then again so might any other Nod creation, so eh.
 
I wonder if mind shields might help with MMI to some extent as well, if they need to integrate with the person at all vs just serve purely as a shield
 
Vehrec said:
-[X] Integrated Cargo System, 307+248+140=695/800
-[X] Continuous Cycle Fusion Plants (Phase 3), 258+95+23=376/300
-[X] Blue Zone Heavy Industrial Sectors, 336+127+69=532/500
-[X] T-Glass Foundries (Stage 1), 117+216+72=405/350
-[X] Strategic Food Stockpile Construction (Phase 1) 0+134+52=186/150
-[X] Tiberium Processing Refits (Phase 2), 20+47+31+5=103/100
-[X] Offshore Tiberium Harvester Stations (Phase 2), 0+143+124=267/200
-[X] Liquid Tiberium Power Cell Deployment (Phase 1) 0+10+31=41/140
-[X] GDSS Philadelphia II (Phase 5), 1227+226+92=1545/1425
-[X] Study Novel Material, 1 die 0+13+23+15=51/50
-[X] Prosthetics Deployment Initiatives (Phase 3), 2+235+69=306/160
-[X] Early Prototype General Artificial Intelligence Development, 66+93+28=187/120
-[X] Wartime Factory Refits (Phase 3), 3+125+60+15=203/100-> 103/100
-[X] Reclamator Fleet YZ-10 South (S-MARVs), 182+2=184/210
-[X] Long Range Sensor System Deployment (Phase 2), 26+52+40=118/300
-[X] Orca Refit Deployment, 0+91+60=151/200
-[X] Aurora Strike Bomber Factory (Oslo), 0+140+40=180/90
-[X] Aurora Strike Bomber Factory (Anchorage), 0+129+40=169/90
-[X] Orbital Strike Regimental Combat Team Stations 0+20+25=45/220

+0 Energy, -3 Labor, -1 health, -1 STU, +2 food reserves, -4 food, +50 processing capacity, +1 Military dice, ++Auroras Overall, a very 'net 0' turn.

Except for the +35 rpt.
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Wait. I just realized @Vehrec voted for his latest mathpost. :lol::rofl:
 
Simon_Jester said:
I'm not entirely clear on what you mean by that

Nod has a bunch of weird supersoldier projects, with probably the most stable and straightforward being the one that was using tiberium infusions. Since by Tib War III that was deployable to the point where they were using it on random militants to enhance their combat performance.

The idea that they might use yet another weird supersoldier project to produce tiberium psychics doesn't seem like much of a stretch, and sure the psychics might rebel, but then again so might any other Nod creation, so eh.
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I am saying they have a track record of there experiments going crazy against them.
 
Magic mind reading countermeasures sound like the kind of thing that you have absolutely zero use for 99.7% of the time. But that 0.3% of the time that you DO need it, having your intelligence officers be immune to spooky telepathic bullshit probably really, REALLY helps. So very niche, but within its niche for the occasional times we do use it very useful.
 
If it's something non-obtrusive like a tag you can just add to someone's ID badge that makes the area around them foggy to psychics that would be swell.
 
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  • Informational
    • NOD:

    03- CABAL Cyborg Augmentation
    05- Secret History of Kane
    06- Falak Design Document
    09- Info on Internal Divisions
    11- Tunnel Borers
    12- Corpse Starch
    13- Tiberium Core Missiles
    15- Lightweight Glide Wings
    16- Field Refining Technologies
    20- Autodoc Systems
    21- Hallucinogen Grenade Formula
    22- Biowarfare
    27- Ferro-Aluminum Armor
    28- Prototype Binary Propellant Formula
    30- Basic Tiberium Studies
    32- Tick Entrenchment System
    38- Cleansing Flame Formula
    39- Human Genetic Augmentation
    40- Chameleonware
    43- ECCM
    46- Wet Artificial Intelligence
    47- Leaping Legs
    48- Arc Weaponry
    52- Last Generation Stealth Tech
    55- Advanced Bodysuits
    56- Charged Particle Beams
    57- Hewlett-Gerdener Method Processing
    58- Combat Drones
    59- Advanced Heat Sink
    60- Crystal Beam Lasers
    61- Nod Stealth Theory
    62- Harvesting Claws
    63- N/A- Obsolete
    64 - Rapid Phage Engineering
    65- Liquid Tiberium Generators
    66 - Rage Engines
    97- Modern Lasers
    98- Modern Particle Weapons


    Sources: Medina Capstone, Q4 2054, Q3 2058, Q3 2061, Mod Omake 1, Mod Omake 2, Mod Omake 3, Mod Omake 4, Mod Omake 5, Mod Omake 6, Mod Omake 7, Conference Rolls, Mod Omake 8, Mod Omake 9, Mod Omake 10
    Compiled Numbers: 3, 5-6, 9, 11-13, 15-16, 20-22, 27-28, 30, 32, 38-40, 43, 46-48, 52, 55-66, 97-98 (38 out of 100)

    Scrin:

    05- Corruptor Toxin
    10- Scrin Transciever Codes
    11- Annotated Galactic map
    18- Hardlight Interface Systems (Basic)
    19- Basic Life Support
    20- Civilian Augmentics
    22- Advanced Rocket Fuels
    25- Structural Alloys
    29- Electrolasers
    31- Tib Inhibitor
    33- Shimmer Shields
    34- Liquid Tiberium Fabrication
    36- Advanced Hardlight
    40- Armor Alloys
    46- Mini power cells
    47- EM Capacitors
    48- Phase Munitions
    52- Ion Storm Collector
    53- Mind Shield
    55- Buzzer blades
    61- Repulsorcraft
    62- Force Field
    63- Plasma Disruptor
    64- Harvesting Tendrils
    65- Drone Control Relay
    66- Scrin Ariculation
    72- Low End Mdrive/Basic Gravitic Flight
    79- Tib Stabilizer
    89- Isolinear Computing
    90- Stasis Device
    96- Particle Shields
    100- Portal

    Sources: Q2 2055, Q3 2058, Q1 2061, Mod Omake 1, Mod Omake 2, Mod Omake 3, Mod Omake 4, Mod Omake 5, Back End Work, Mod Omake 6, Mod Omake 7, Mod Omake 8, BOTcommander's modelling 1, BOTcommander's modelling 2, Mod Omake 9(Roll), Mod Omake 10, Mod Omake 11, Mod Omake 12, Mod Omake 13, Mod Omake 14, Mod Omake 15, Mod Omake 16
    Compiled Numbers: 5, 10-11, 18-20, 22, 25, 29, 31, 33-34, 36, 40, 46-48, 52-53, 55, 61-66, 72, 79, 89-90, 96, 100 (32 out of 100)
     
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    • [X]Plan Tib Heist + Yelling Accountants
    Swapping my vote to the plan with the highest spending that has multiple votes already.
     
    Void Stalker said:
    NOD:
    9- Info on Internal Divisions
    57-
    58-
    59-
    60-
    61-
    65-
    Crystal Beam Laser, Hewlett-Gardener Tib Processing, Cooling Tech (Heat sink), NOD Stealth theory, Liquid Tiberium Generators, ???

    15-
    21-
    28-
    32-
    38-
    43
    55-
    56-
    97-
    Hallucinogen Grenade Formula, Prototype Biprop formula, Advanced Infantry Bodysuits, Tick Entrenchment System, Cleansing Flame Formula, Modern Lasers, ECCM, Nod Wingpacks, and Charged Particle Beams.

    Scirin:
    5-
    31-
    33-
    63-
    72-
    79-
    Shimmer Shields, low end MDrive, Tib Inhibitor, Tib Stabilizer, corruptor toxin, Plasma Disruptor
    29-
    61-
    63 (64?)-
    Repulsorcraft, Electrolasers and Harvesting Tendrils
    53- Mind Shield
    89- Isolinear Computing

    Okay I think this is all of the tech rolls? We hit the research twice for NOD and Scirin and had 2 omake rolls for Scirin? Am I missing anything?
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    You are missing the Mecca NOD roll (27, I think), which was the NOD lightweight vehicle armor (Ferro-Aluminum Armor).

    Scrin 5 was Corruptor Toxin (T-Glass).
    NOD 97 was Modern Lasers.
     
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    Ithillid said:
    Yeah, formatting, and a threadmark.

    Edit: Added the threadmark
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    Could we get the exact numbers that correspond to each tech, please? Or is that too much info? It would make the formatting much neater.

    Also, we don't know if Void Stalker is interested in maintaining an infopost. So: @Void Stalker, would you be willing to keep your post updated? Or would you rather someone else did so?
     
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    Derpmind said:
    Could we get the exact numbers that correspond to each tech? Or is that too much info? It would make the formatting much neater.

    Also, we don't know if @Void Stalker is interested in maintaining an infopost. (Would you be interested in doing so?)
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    I can do so, I had the number dash format to put the tech next to it but found that most of them we were not given which tech we received. Also I think the most recent 63 on scirin was bumped to 64 since we had a 63 the first time.
     
    I wonder if we do [ ] Advanced Laser System Development (New) can we refit our fleet with them before the Karachi sprint with them as going from one type of laser to anther is far less work then the original PD rollout as things like power supplies can remain the same.
     
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