Pretty sure the service sector is picking up the unskilled labor, that doesn't go into the schools.
Attempting to Fulfill the Plan: GDI Edition
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We are slowly transforming the economy from the GDI sector needing a lot of menial labour to it being available for private use.
However, we also need to invest in more education opportunities, as there aren't enough highly qualified people available for the private sector.
However, we also need to invest in more education opportunities, as there aren't enough highly qualified people available for the private sector.
BoSPaladin
The Paladin
Unpopular fact. Realtalk for a second.
Education isn't a cure all. I'm sorry. But it's just not. It would be great to give everyone every opportunity to learn and excel, and, we should do that anyway.
But quite simply, some people simply aren't suited for schoolwork/office environments. People that prefer to work with their hands or in trades, or doing any number of physical, active jobs, or dealing with people face to face.
Intelligence runs on a bell curve. But it's not 'just' intelligence. People can be plenty intelligent and have zero aptitude for working in an office or whatever. Yes, ideally people would all have 'good' jobs that pay well and so on and so forth.
But well, the answer to automated farms freeing up labour isn't necessarily to send farmers to school. But, rather simply to plant more farms. With the sort of crops that do require human handling.
Education isn't a cure all. I'm sorry. But it's just not. It would be great to give everyone every opportunity to learn and excel, and, we should do that anyway.
But quite simply, some people simply aren't suited for schoolwork/office environments. People that prefer to work with their hands or in trades, or doing any number of physical, active jobs, or dealing with people face to face.
Intelligence runs on a bell curve. But it's not 'just' intelligence. People can be plenty intelligent and have zero aptitude for working in an office or whatever. Yes, ideally people would all have 'good' jobs that pay well and so on and so forth.
But well, the answer to automated farms freeing up labour isn't necessarily to send farmers to school. But, rather simply to plant more farms. With the sort of crops that do require human handling.
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In case I was ambiguous:
I meant to convey that there should be many 'unskilled' positions available when the private economy gets going properly. But also that they are a bit lacking in 'skilled' labour to make sure that it gets going well.
We can't just upskill everyone away from basic roles. Many skilled roles rely on unskilled labour, and vice-versa.
I meant to convey that there should be many 'unskilled' positions available when the private economy gets going properly. But also that they are a bit lacking in 'skilled' labour to make sure that it gets going well.
We can't just upskill everyone away from basic roles. Many skilled roles rely on unskilled labour, and vice-versa.
What is considered unskilled and what is actually unskilled labour are definitions that are not the same.
Luckily, GDI has actually dug its way out of the economic pit it was in before the Third Tiberium War and ended up with an economy that draws substantially more wealth towards the poorer sections of the population than previously, and it does this in part by actively and aggressively supporting things like free schooling, encouraging people to study a subject just because they find it interesting even if they do not ever expect to use it in their job, arts grants, extensive cultural subsidies, small business grants, and so on.
That said, GDI is very much facing a similar problem Korea, Japan and China are looking at IRL; an aging population that is not making replacement rate, is only barely or not at all offsetting the difference with immigration, and with many members of the population getting old enough they are becoming less economically productive as they age, especially in physically demanding jobs. Mechanization will help a lot, but it might not catch everything.
What GDI really needs is boosts in birth rates, as soon as possible, because it's going to be 20 years before those kids are economically productive themselves and making them available later will demand more resources from an already stressed system now.
Luckily, GDI has actually dug its way out of the economic pit it was in before the Third Tiberium War and ended up with an economy that draws substantially more wealth towards the poorer sections of the population than previously, and it does this in part by actively and aggressively supporting things like free schooling, encouraging people to study a subject just because they find it interesting even if they do not ever expect to use it in their job, arts grants, extensive cultural subsidies, small business grants, and so on.
That said, GDI is very much facing a similar problem Korea, Japan and China are looking at IRL; an aging population that is not making replacement rate, is only barely or not at all offsetting the difference with immigration, and with many members of the population getting old enough they are becoming less economically productive as they age, especially in physically demanding jobs. Mechanization will help a lot, but it might not catch everything.
What GDI really needs is boosts in birth rates, as soon as possible, because it's going to be 20 years before those kids are economically productive themselves and making them available later will demand more resources from an already stressed system now.
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Every child born now is a child we'll have to lift into space when the planet explodes. Better to run population as far down as possible.
Nottheunmaker
Altman be praised
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Only if we let Earth explode. I have no intention of letting that happen.
Dmol8
The Undead Unhinged Lunatic of the Web
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Why wouldn't they? It's Mehretu, one of the most militant and fanatical of NOD's commanders. From his point of view this whole DIplomacy business is weakening his position and capacity to wage war on GDI. He's like Gideon: He dies in any future in which we are successful enough.
And speaking of people that were assassinated this turn:
We just lost Dr. Rima Alcard, our automation specialist. As such there will be at least some jobs that we won't be able to automate, at least in the short term, so the people who can't cut it on the education front will have some jobs to work. The question is will there be enough of those.
In any case there is one action we can take that is guaranteed to alleviate this issue:
since the older, tried and tested methods are also more manual labor intensive.
The planet didn't explode in canon and we know the amount of people we need off world to get Kane to the negotiating table for the TCN: 20 Million.
Edit: Just saw the update on the newest mod post: The breaktrough is 03 on the NOD Gatcha: CABAL Cyborg Augmentation. This means that even single digit numbered breaktrough results are useful technologies. I expect we get a new small Services Action to retrofit our own cybernetics and maybe a small boost to labor from it.
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... um? Pigs are the natural predators of snakes.That'll be the next task for the Tiberium debartment.
Tiberium snakes to eat the tiberium pigs.
And after that, tiberium gorillas to eat the tiberium snakes.
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Don't worry, we'll find an intermediate step between the pigs, the snakes, and the gorillas.
View: https://youtu.be/LuiK7jcC1fY
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Reposting my draft plan.
(AAAH Sorry never mind! See link in my next post if anyone cares)
(AAAH Sorry never mind! See link in my next post if anyone cares)
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Dmol8
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I thought that the update stated:that the U-Series Alloy Foundries are at 32/550.
Dmol8
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My own preliminary plan after the results are in:
[ ] Plan Logistical Orbit v2.2:
-[ ] Infrastructure (5/5 Dice +27 bonus) 100 Resources:
--[ ] Yellow Zone Fortress Towns (Phase 7) 93/280/550 20 RpD, 5 Dice = 100 R 100%/21% ADC 8/62
-[ ] Heavy Industry (5/5 Dice + 5 Free Dice +34 bonus) 340 Resources:
--[ ] U-Series Alloy Foundries (Phase Edit 3: 4) 32/550 40 RpD, 7 Dice = 280 R 88% ADC 38
--[ ] Second Generation Continuous Cycle Fusion Plants (Phase 2) 75/325 20 RpD, 3 Dice = 60 R 64% ADC 45
-[ ] Light and Chemical Industry (4/4 Dice +29 bonus) 800 Resources:
--[ ] Reykjavik Myomer Macrospinner (Phase 5) 553/1155 20 RpD, 4 Dice = 80 R N/A ADC N/A
-[ ] Agriculture (6/6 Dice +29 bonus) 80 Resources:
--[ ] Agriculture Mechanization Projects (Phase 2) 83/240 15 RpD, 2 Die = 30 R 66% ADC 42
--[ ] Spider Cotton Plantations (Phase 2) 60/170 15? RpD, 1 Die = 15 R 40% DC 61
--[ ] Tarberry Deployment 0/70/140 10 RpD, 1 Die = 10 R 80%/10% DC 21/91
--[ ] Strategic Food Stockpile Construction (Phase 5) 78/190 10 RpD, 1 Die = 10 R 33% DC 68
--[ ] Laboratory Meat Development 0/100 15 RpD, 1 Die = 15 R 50% DC 51
-[ ] Tiberium (7/7 Dice +39 bonus) 200 Resources:
--[ ] Improved Hewlett Gardener Refits (Phase 2) 45/240/480 35 RpD, 4 Dice = 140 R 99%/15% ADC 11/71
--[ ] Tiberium Inhibitor Deployment (BZ-7 Korea) 49/90 30 RpD, 1 Die = 30 R 100% DC 1
--[ ] Tiberium Inhibitor Deployment (BZ-9 SE Australia) 0/90 1 Die = 30 R 65% DC 36
--[ ] 1 Die locked for AEVA Deployment
-[ ] Orbital (7/7 Dice + Erewhon +34 bonus) 170 Resources:
--[ ] GDSS Columbia (Phase 5) (Updated) 324/1065 20 RpD, 3 Dice = 60 R 3/9 Median ADC N/A
--[ ] GDSS Shala (Phase 4) 229/530 20 RpD, 3 Dice = 60 R 37% ADC 57
--[ ] Gravitic Shipyard 392/430 30 RpD, 1 Die = 30 R 63% DC 38
--[ ] Fusion Shipyard 446/475 20 RpD, 1 Erewhon Die = 20 R 72% DC 29
-[ ] Services (4/4 Dice +35 bonus) 90 Resources:
--[ ] Advanced Electronic Video Assistant Deployment Tiberium 0/200 20 RpD, 3 Dice = 60 R 92% ADC 27
--[ ] Autodoc Systems Development 53/120 30 RpD, 1 Die = 30 R 89% DC 12
-[ ] Military (7/7 Dice +1 Free Die+ 2 AA Die +31 bonus) 185 Resources:
--[ ] Strategic Area Defense Networks (Phase 2) 149/295/635 20 RpD, 6 Dice = 120 R 100%/60% ADC 1/50
--[ ] Infantry Recon Support Drone Deployment 0/180 10 RpD, 2 Die = 20 R 49% ADC 52
--[ ] Ground Forces Zone Armor (Set 1) (Phase 6) (Very High Priority) 127/165 20 RpD, 1 AA Die = 20 R 78% DC 23
--[ ] Combat Laser Development (Tech) 43/80 25 RpD, 1 AA Die = 25 R 79% DC 22
-[ ] Bureaucracy (4/4 Dice +29 bonus):
--[ ] Administrative Assistance Ground Forces Zone Armor 2 Die
--[ ] Administrative Assistance Combat Laser Development 2 Die
-[ ] Total Cost: 100+340+80+80+200+170+90+185 = 1245/Edit:1300
- Infrastructure has 5 Dice on Yellow Zone Fortress Towns for a 100% chance and an Average DC of 8 to complete Phase 7 and a 21% chance and an Average DC of 62 to complete the Yellow Zone Fortress Town Action Chain. Why? Because:
Krukov is about to make a mess and I don't want it spilling into our territory.
- Heavy Industry has 7 Dice on Alloys for a 88% chance and an Average DC of 38 to get another round done and 3 Dice on the new Continuous Cycle Fusion Plants for a 64% and an Average DC of 45 to get +19 Energy and start building up a buffer for retrofits.
- In L&C Industry I have 4 Dice on Reykjavik to push towards a capstone next turn.
- Agriculture has 2 Die on Agriculture Mechanization for a 66% chance and an Average DC of 42 to complete, 1 Die each on Spider Cotton to keep improving our supply of thread and 1 Die on Tarberry Deployment to get more Energy, 1 Die on Strategic Food Stockpiles because I want to finish the Infrastructure CRP and 1 Die on Laboratory Meat because it is 50% with a DC of 51 to complete without a rollover so there is no need for more Dice on it.
- Tiberium is about The Refinery Refits, to continue rolling that as it is a plan goal and now a 17 Dice Mega-project, two Blue Zone Inhibitors and a Die locked for AEVA.
- Orbital is about finishing off the various Bays and rolling Columbia and Shalla so that they are done before the elections with Dice surges.
- Services goes for 3 Dice on Tiberium AEVA and 1 Die on Autodocs for a 89% chance and a DC of 12 to be completed.
- Military is about doing two Phases of SADN so we can be closer to covering Edit: our infrastructure before building Karachi in the nuke happy warlord's territory, finishing Infantry Recon Support Drones and Zone Armor as we will need them in Q3 and finishing off Lasers because we started them last turn.
-Bureaucracy is doing an AA on Ground Forces Zone Armor and an AA on Combat Laser Development because the chances of other projects fall if we use AA on them. This plan runs on the slimmest of probability margins now because there has been no decrease from U-Series Alloys this turn on account of needing more testing and development before being deployed:
Edit: A correction and a clarification. See the next two posts on what.
Edit 2: That is Phase 4 not Phase 3. Phase 3 was done this turn.
[ ] Plan Logistical Orbit v2.2:
-[ ] Infrastructure (5/5 Dice +27 bonus) 100 Resources:
--[ ] Yellow Zone Fortress Towns (Phase 7) 93/280/550 20 RpD, 5 Dice = 100 R 100%/21% ADC 8/62
-[ ] Heavy Industry (5/5 Dice + 5 Free Dice +34 bonus) 340 Resources:
--[ ] U-Series Alloy Foundries (Phase Edit 3: 4) 32/550 40 RpD, 7 Dice = 280 R 88% ADC 38
--[ ] Second Generation Continuous Cycle Fusion Plants (Phase 2) 75/325 20 RpD, 3 Dice = 60 R 64% ADC 45
-[ ] Light and Chemical Industry (4/4 Dice +29 bonus) 800 Resources:
--[ ] Reykjavik Myomer Macrospinner (Phase 5) 553/1155 20 RpD, 4 Dice = 80 R N/A ADC N/A
-[ ] Agriculture (6/6 Dice +29 bonus) 80 Resources:
--[ ] Agriculture Mechanization Projects (Phase 2) 83/240 15 RpD, 2 Die = 30 R 66% ADC 42
--[ ] Spider Cotton Plantations (Phase 2) 60/170 15? RpD, 1 Die = 15 R 40% DC 61
--[ ] Tarberry Deployment 0/70/140 10 RpD, 1 Die = 10 R 80%/10% DC 21/91
--[ ] Strategic Food Stockpile Construction (Phase 5) 78/190 10 RpD, 1 Die = 10 R 33% DC 68
--[ ] Laboratory Meat Development 0/100 15 RpD, 1 Die = 15 R 50% DC 51
-[ ] Tiberium (7/7 Dice +39 bonus) 200 Resources:
--[ ] Improved Hewlett Gardener Refits (Phase 2) 45/240/480 35 RpD, 4 Dice = 140 R 99%/15% ADC 11/71
--[ ] Tiberium Inhibitor Deployment (BZ-7 Korea) 49/90 30 RpD, 1 Die = 30 R 100% DC 1
--[ ] Tiberium Inhibitor Deployment (BZ-9 SE Australia) 0/90 1 Die = 30 R 65% DC 36
--[ ] 1 Die locked for AEVA Deployment
-[ ] Orbital (7/7 Dice + Erewhon +34 bonus) 170 Resources:
--[ ] GDSS Columbia (Phase 5) (Updated) 324/1065 20 RpD, 3 Dice = 60 R 3/9 Median ADC N/A
--[ ] GDSS Shala (Phase 4) 229/530 20 RpD, 3 Dice = 60 R 37% ADC 57
--[ ] Gravitic Shipyard 392/430 30 RpD, 1 Die = 30 R 63% DC 38
--[ ] Fusion Shipyard 446/475 20 RpD, 1 Erewhon Die = 20 R 72% DC 29
-[ ] Services (4/4 Dice +35 bonus) 90 Resources:
--[ ] Advanced Electronic Video Assistant Deployment Tiberium 0/200 20 RpD, 3 Dice = 60 R 92% ADC 27
--[ ] Autodoc Systems Development 53/120 30 RpD, 1 Die = 30 R 89% DC 12
-[ ] Military (7/7 Dice +1 Free Die+ 2 AA Die +31 bonus) 185 Resources:
--[ ] Strategic Area Defense Networks (Phase 2) 149/295/635 20 RpD, 6 Dice = 120 R 100%/60% ADC 1/50
--[ ] Infantry Recon Support Drone Deployment 0/180 10 RpD, 2 Die = 20 R 49% ADC 52
--[ ] Ground Forces Zone Armor (Set 1) (Phase 6) (Very High Priority) 127/165 20 RpD, 1 AA Die = 20 R 78% DC 23
--[ ] Combat Laser Development (Tech) 43/80 25 RpD, 1 AA Die = 25 R 79% DC 22
-[ ] Bureaucracy (4/4 Dice +29 bonus):
--[ ] Administrative Assistance Ground Forces Zone Armor 2 Die
--[ ] Administrative Assistance Combat Laser Development 2 Die
-[ ] Total Cost: 100+340+80+80+200+170+90+185 = 1245/Edit:1300
- Infrastructure has 5 Dice on Yellow Zone Fortress Towns for a 100% chance and an Average DC of 8 to complete Phase 7 and a 21% chance and an Average DC of 62 to complete the Yellow Zone Fortress Town Action Chain. Why? Because:
Krukov is about to make a mess and I don't want it spilling into our territory.
- Heavy Industry has 7 Dice on Alloys for a 88% chance and an Average DC of 38 to get another round done and 3 Dice on the new Continuous Cycle Fusion Plants for a 64% and an Average DC of 45 to get +19 Energy and start building up a buffer for retrofits.
- In L&C Industry I have 4 Dice on Reykjavik to push towards a capstone next turn.
- Agriculture has 2 Die on Agriculture Mechanization for a 66% chance and an Average DC of 42 to complete, 1 Die each on Spider Cotton to keep improving our supply of thread and 1 Die on Tarberry Deployment to get more Energy, 1 Die on Strategic Food Stockpiles because I want to finish the Infrastructure CRP and 1 Die on Laboratory Meat because it is 50% with a DC of 51 to complete without a rollover so there is no need for more Dice on it.
- Tiberium is about The Refinery Refits, to continue rolling that as it is a plan goal and now a 17 Dice Mega-project, two Blue Zone Inhibitors and a Die locked for AEVA.
- Orbital is about finishing off the various Bays and rolling Columbia and Shalla so that they are done before the elections with Dice surges.
- Services goes for 3 Dice on Tiberium AEVA and 1 Die on Autodocs for a 89% chance and a DC of 12 to be completed.
- Military is about doing two Phases of SADN so we can be closer to covering Edit: our infrastructure before building Karachi in the nuke happy warlord's territory, finishing Infantry Recon Support Drones and Zone Armor as we will need them in Q3 and finishing off Lasers because we started them last turn.
-Bureaucracy is doing an AA on Ground Forces Zone Armor and an AA on Combat Laser Development because the chances of other projects fall if we use AA on them. This plan runs on the slimmest of probability margins now because there has been no decrease from U-Series Alloys this turn on account of needing more testing and development before being deployed:
Edit: A correction and a clarification. See the next two posts on what.
Edit 2: That is Phase 4 not Phase 3. Phase 3 was done this turn.
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I don't think that makes sense.
We can't protect Karachi until we at least start Karachi.
If Karachi is worth protecting with SADN, then I would expect it to be covered by whatever the next available SADN phase is. It wouldn't make sense for it to be fixed as SADN phase 'whatever down the line'.
SADN for Karachi might even be built into the costs of building Karachi.
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I am not interested in duble-checking everyone's plans, but two obvious flaws jump out to me: First, going by the update, we have a total budget of 1300R for next turn, not 1240R or 1255R. Also:
With the assassination of Dr. Rima Alcard, we'll have lost her L&CI die and only have 4 L&CI dice per turn, though we'll also have lost her -5 die penalty.
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Dmol8
The Undead Unhinged Lunatic of the Web
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We're going to need SADN to protect our infrastructure from the Shah of Atom who likes to nuke things once we start cutting the road from Karachi to the Himalayas because if he decides to hit us it won't just be at Karachi.
Good eye will edit a correction on that, but will hold off on making a new preliminary plan for now.
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[reacts off tone]
Aaaah! Sorry! Geez!
[dives for cover, reflexively deletes draft]
Old draft. Sorry! More recently updated drafts exist
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[imperiously lifts eyebrow]
You presume that I would forgive you? By being so outrageously imperfect, you have lost the right to live.
[fires eye lasers]
(When I said "your" plans, I meant the collective "your". I'm not personally offended or anything. I just want to get away from double-checking everything for this quest like I used to. Sorry for being unclear; previous post slightly edited to hopefully fix it.)
@Dmol8 We finished U-Series Alloy Foundries (Phase 3) this turn, so it should be (Phase 4).
Lightwhispers Probability Array
This is now the up-to-date Probability Array. (As of October 17, 2024.) All disclaimers apply where applicable.
--Note: Additional bonuses are +5 to Development projects, +5 to technology working groups, +5 to station building, and +5 to Genetically Engineered Plants.
--Note 2: Anyone who wants a copy of the current version of the excel sheet I use to help make these Arrays can have one; just send me a PM if you're interested.
--Note 3: You can use this calculator to calculate the effects of the Admin Assistance dice on specific projects, thanks to @Derpmind .
--Note 4: How dice work: each "die" is 2d50. A roll for a project which has two or more '1's in the roll is a critical failure. A roll for a project which has a dice-pair where the first die is a '50' paired, with an even numbered result is a critical success. ([x,y,1,y,1,y] is a critical failure. [x,y,50,10,x,y] is a critical success, while [x,50,x,y,x,y] is not a critical success.)
- Infrastructure 5 dice +27
- Heavy Industry 5 dice +34
- Light and Chemical Industry 4 dice +29
- Agriculture 6 dice +29
- Tiberium 7 dice +39
- Orbital 9 dice +34
- Services 4 dice +35
- Military 6 dice +31
- Bureaucracy 4 dice +29
--Note: Additional bonuses are +5 to Development projects, +5 to technology working groups, +5 to station building, and +5 to Genetically Engineered Plants.
--Note 2: Anyone who wants a copy of the current version of the excel sheet I use to help make these Arrays can have one; just send me a PM if you're interested.
--Note 3: You can use this calculator to calculate the effects of the Admin Assistance dice on specific projects, thanks to @Derpmind .
--Note 4: How dice work: each "die" is 2d50. A roll for a project which has two or more '1's in the roll is a critical failure. A roll for a project which has a dice-pair where the first die is a '50' paired, with an even numbered result is a critical success. ([x,y,1,y,1,y] is a critical failure. [x,y,50,10,x,y] is a critical success, while [x,50,x,y,x,y] is not a critical success.)
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Children are pretty light weight, and once we start industrial lifting and aggressively colonizing space we will need more than old men and women no longer capable of having children. We also don't know how long it will take to get to that point.
We don't necessarily need to grow the population. But replacement rate? We want to be making that.
So what was the nat 100 bonus on spider cotton plantations? I can't figure it out.
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Good news! Ithillid threadmarked your post. Bad news, he threadmarked the post I'm quoting. The post asking for a threadmark on a different post.@Ithillid Here's my version of the Probability Array, which should be up to date and (mostly) accurate - if it could get an informational threadmark, that would probably be helpful.
Attempting to Fulfill the Plan: GDI Edition
New, hopefully-up-to-date (as of Feb 26, 2023) Probability Array. (Newness not guaranteed in all regions. Void where prohibited, or in regions of nulled spacetime. Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball.) -[] Blue Zone Arcologies (Stage 4) 1/510 5 dice 75R 5%, 6 dice 90R 35%, 7 dice 105R 74%, 8 dice...forums.sufficientvelocity.com
Close enough, right?
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@Lightwhispers you have columbia at 146/1045 but we hit 324 progress. Shala is right though (only two I checked since I was curious how U Alloy shifted things)
1240/1300 (60 rollover)
[] Plan Goals and Karachi Prep
Infra 5/5 80R +27
-[] Suborbital Shuttle Service (Phase 2) 110/225 2 dice 50R 90%
-[] Postwar Housing Refits (Phase 1) 0/170 3 dice 30R 94% (3% for Phase 2)
HI 5/5+4 free 300R +34
-[] U Series Alloy Foundries (Phase 4) 32/510 6 dice 240R 73%
-[] Second Generation Continuous Cycle Fusion Plants (Phase 2) 75/310 3 dice 60R 74%
LCI 4/4 80R +29
-[] Reykjavik Myomer Macrospinner (Phase 5) 553/1120 4 dice 80R 0%
Agri 6/6 75R +29
-[] Reforestation Campaign Preparations (Phase 1) 0/835 2 dice 10R 0%
-[] Agriculture Mechanization Projects (Phase 2) 83/235 2 dice 30R 70%
-[] Dairy Ranches (Phase 2) 163/190 1 die 20R 100%
-[] Laboratory Meat Development (new) 0/100 1 die 15R 45%
Tiberium 7/7 180R +39
-[] AEVA 1 die
-[] Red Zone Border Offensives (Stage 4) 93/225 2 dice 50R 93%
-[] Improved Hewlett Gardener Refits (Phase 2) 65/230 2 dice 70R 75%
-[] Tiberium Inhibitor Deployment (BZ-2 Eastern North America) 49/90 1 die 30R 100%
-[] Tiberium Inhibitor Deployment (Blue Zones) 0/85 1 die 30R 70%
Orbital 7/7+1 free 210R +34
-[] GDSS Columbia (Phase 5) 324/1045 4 dice 80R 0%
-[] GDSS Shala (Phase 4) 229/520 4 dice 80R 92%
-[] Gravitic Shipyard 392/425 1 Erewehon die 30R 83%
-[] Fusion Shipyard 446/475 1 AA die 20R 87%
Services 4/4 90R +35
-[] Advanced Electronic Video Assistant Deployment (Tiberium) 0/200 3 dice +1 Tib 60R 92%
-[] Autodoc Systems Development (New) 52/120 1 die 30R 88%
Military 7/7+1 free 165R +31
-[] Strategic Area Defense Networks (Phase 2+3) 149/605 6 dice 120R 100% 75% for Phase 3
-[] Ground Forces Zone Armor (Set 1) (Phase 6) 127/160 1 die 20R 100%
-[] Combat Laser Development 38/80 1 die 25R 100%
Bureau 4/4 +29 60R
-[] Administrative Assistance 2 die auto (Fusion Shipyard)
-[] Transfer Funding to InOps 1 die auto 60R
-[] Hand Off Capital Goods to Market (-10 Cap Goods) 1 die auto
Free 6/6
4HI, 1 Orbital, 1 Mil
Right so this plan focuses on progressing towards plan goals and doing some prep work for Karachi and also ends up hopefully doing some public reassurance after the tib modeling leaked.
Infra: Suborbital Shuttle helps connect our zones and also provides logistics for stuff like a RZ deep glacier the following turn (Q3), meanwhile in the cool down before the Karachi push work on the housing refits to get more people into HQ housing should leave us at 10 pop in LQ housing (if we get really lucky 7 from phase 2 finishing) which should help the general mood from fewer people being unhappy with the living situation and as long as we can put a die here and there into the project let us finish up the last 2 phases and between that and the arcology department get everyone into HQ housing which would be a very nice achievement to get.
Heavy Industry: Another U Series Alloy Foundry phase because the discounts save us dice both in HI and in other categories and more power generation as we have a lot of power outlays to get through.
LCI: Keep on plugging away at Reykjavik with a chance to finish it next turn and get some nice boosts and knock out a plan goal. (8 dice, that is 2 turns is 85% to finish)
Agri: Dairy Ranches is a plan goal, Agri Mech does not eat up labor so try and finish that off to also keep food surplus up, start on Reforestation and also try and get the lab meat dev done.
Tib: AEVA because we have a lot of tib stuff to chew through and more bonuses here lets us get more abatement and income, plus Karachi uses tib and infra dice with at least 1 having to be tib and tib has our highest bonus even before AEVA. 1 RZ Border Offensive to ease ZOCOM back into things, also unlocks a Deep Glacier for next turn, plus lets us put dice elsewhere such as 2 dice on HG Refit (this improves our STU generation formula and is a plan goal with 7 phases needing to be done so doing a bit each turn helps) and also trying to knock out 2 inhibitors this turn which would be 2 of 3 in our plan goal
Orbital: 4 dice on both stations to move them further as we need to finish them and followup stations to both hit plan goals as well as reassure our people. Erewhon and an AA die go to trying to finish the 2 shipyards at high odds to keep dice with bonuses on the stations.
Services: Tib AEVA because it will help with Karachi (a plan goal that we need to pour a lot of progress into) as well as general tib efforts which is where our funding for plans comes from, nets us STU to use elsewhere and provides the abatement we need to not die to tiberium and give us enough time to figure out a solution. Other die goes to trying to finish autodoc dev.
Military: Hard focus on SADN should see phases 2 and 3 finish leaving only phase 4 to do in Q3 to knock out that plan goal while also hardening us against strategic attacks which some of NOD is likely to be considering. 1 die to finish the current set of GZ armor and open the next set which is another plan goal and something we need in general and the steel talon die to finish Combat laser dev which is yet another plan goal.
Bureau: Hand off Cap goods to private sector to help them build, this is half of the amount we need to hand off this plan, provide more funding to InOps and activate a AA die.
Thoughts?
Current Economic Issues:
Housing: +72 (14 population in low quality housing) (+1 high-quality housing per turn) (-2 Post War 1, +1 per turn for -1 housing, +4 to HQ housing)
Energy: +27 (+5 in reserve)(+3? Per turn) (-4 U Series, +19 2nd Gen Fusion, -1 Agri Mech, -1 Dairy Ranches 2, +2 RZ Border Offensive, -6 2 Inhibitors, -3 AEVA, -2 SADN Phase 2 and 3, -2 GF ZA Totals:19, +2, +19- worst case we are at +11 more likely we end up higher from fusion finishing)
Logistics: +17 (-2 from military activity) (+5 Suborbital Shuttles)
Food: +27 (+24 backed reserve, +5 unbacked reserve) (Perennials: +1 on Q4 2063) (+12 Agri Mech, -3 Dairy Ranches, +4 Shala 4)
Health: +23 (-8 from refugees)
Capital Goods: +27 (+2 per turn from Distributed Industrial Authority) (+262 in reserve) (-1 Agri Mech, -1 Gravitic Shipyard, -4 AEVA, -1 Zone Armor -10 Hand off to private sector New total: 12 (27-17+2))
STUs: +11 (-2 U Series, +? Refits, RZ Border offensive, -2 Gravitic Shipyard, New Total 7+Gains)
Consumer Goods: +211 (+5 per turn from Private Industry) (+3 per turn from sub-departments) (+1 per turn from perennials. -1 per turn Q1 2064) (Net +9 per turn) (+6 Dairy Ranches, +2 Shala 4)
Labor: +31 (Net +1 per turn) (-1 2nd Gen Fusion, -1 Dairy Ranches, -2 Zone Armor New Total: +28)
Tiberium Processing Capacity (2690/3800) (+15-35 RZ Border Offensive)
Tiberium Reserve (0/500)
Taxation Per Turn: +105 (+15 per turn from Private Industry)
Space Mining Per Turn: +100
Maintenance Reductions: +50
Green Zone Water: +5
Plan Goals
Provide 42 Consumer Goods points from the Treasury (6 from Dairy Ranches, 2 Shala 4)
Provide 9 Consumer Goods from Agriculture (6 from Dairy Ranches, 2 Shala 4- only 1 needed, Shala 5 will more than knock this out)
Increase Income by 585 (15-35 from RZ Border Offensive)
Increase Tiberium Processing limit by 470
Increase population in space by 17.15k (.3k Shala 4)
Provide 28 Points of Red Zone Abatement (2 from RZ Border Offensive)
Provide 30 Resources in grants
Spend at least one die on Steel Talons projects every turn Fulfilled
Projects
Complete Karachi Planned City by end of 2065
Deploy Orca Wingman Drones by end of 2065
Complete North Boston Phase 5
Develop and deploy Governor-A refit
Deploy Conestoga class
Complete at least 3 Blue Zone Inhibitors by end of 2065 2 of 3
Compete Dairy Ranching Domes Phase 2 by end of 2065 Finished
Complete 1 of Nuuk, Reykjavik, Bergen Progress on Reykjavik
Complete all phases of Red Zone Border Offensives before 2064 1 more Phase done
Complete SADN Phase 4 3 of 4
Complete at least 5 Ground Forces Zone Armor factories 1 more done, 4 of set 2 will need to be done
Complete all of the following projects:
Transorbital Fighter Development or follow on heavy ship development, Combat Laser Development, and Unmanned Support Ground Vehicle Development Combat Laser finishes
Complete 2 phases of Reforestation Campaign Preparation Progress on Phase 1
Complete Fusion and Gravitic Shipyard Bays before the Elections Both have high chance to finish
Develop both Next Generation Armored and Support Vehicles by end of 2065
Complete Regional Hospital Expansions by end of 2065
Promises to Litvinov:
Do not activate Free Dice (except for Tiberium) unless all Department Dice are active. Fulfilled
Spend no more than two free dice per turn on Military. Fulfilled
Activate Refit Department
Hand off at least 20 points of Capital Goods to market over the course of the plan. (Hands off 10 of 20)
Complete Improved Hewlett Gardener Refits before end of plan (Phase 2 of 7)
[] Plan Goals and Karachi Prep
Infra 5/5 80R +27
-[] Suborbital Shuttle Service (Phase 2) 110/225 2 dice 50R 90%
-[] Postwar Housing Refits (Phase 1) 0/170 3 dice 30R 94% (3% for Phase 2)
HI 5/5+4 free 300R +34
-[] U Series Alloy Foundries (Phase 4) 32/510 6 dice 240R 73%
-[] Second Generation Continuous Cycle Fusion Plants (Phase 2) 75/310 3 dice 60R 74%
LCI 4/4 80R +29
-[] Reykjavik Myomer Macrospinner (Phase 5) 553/1120 4 dice 80R 0%
Agri 6/6 75R +29
-[] Reforestation Campaign Preparations (Phase 1) 0/835 2 dice 10R 0%
-[] Agriculture Mechanization Projects (Phase 2) 83/235 2 dice 30R 70%
-[] Dairy Ranches (Phase 2) 163/190 1 die 20R 100%
-[] Laboratory Meat Development (new) 0/100 1 die 15R 45%
Tiberium 7/7 180R +39
-[] AEVA 1 die
-[] Red Zone Border Offensives (Stage 4) 93/225 2 dice 50R 93%
-[] Improved Hewlett Gardener Refits (Phase 2) 65/230 2 dice 70R 75%
-[] Tiberium Inhibitor Deployment (BZ-2 Eastern North America) 49/90 1 die 30R 100%
-[] Tiberium Inhibitor Deployment (Blue Zones) 0/85 1 die 30R 70%
Orbital 7/7+1 free 210R +34
-[] GDSS Columbia (Phase 5) 324/1045 4 dice 80R 0%
-[] GDSS Shala (Phase 4) 229/520 4 dice 80R 92%
-[] Gravitic Shipyard 392/425 1 Erewehon die 30R 83%
-[] Fusion Shipyard 446/475 1 AA die 20R 87%
Services 4/4 90R +35
-[] Advanced Electronic Video Assistant Deployment (Tiberium) 0/200 3 dice +1 Tib 60R 92%
-[] Autodoc Systems Development (New) 52/120 1 die 30R 88%
Military 7/7+1 free 165R +31
-[] Strategic Area Defense Networks (Phase 2+3) 149/605 6 dice 120R 100% 75% for Phase 3
-[] Ground Forces Zone Armor (Set 1) (Phase 6) 127/160 1 die 20R 100%
-[] Combat Laser Development 38/80 1 die 25R 100%
Bureau 4/4 +29 60R
-[] Administrative Assistance 2 die auto (Fusion Shipyard)
-[] Transfer Funding to InOps 1 die auto 60R
-[] Hand Off Capital Goods to Market (-10 Cap Goods) 1 die auto
Free 6/6
4HI, 1 Orbital, 1 Mil
Right so this plan focuses on progressing towards plan goals and doing some prep work for Karachi and also ends up hopefully doing some public reassurance after the tib modeling leaked.
Infra: Suborbital Shuttle helps connect our zones and also provides logistics for stuff like a RZ deep glacier the following turn (Q3), meanwhile in the cool down before the Karachi push work on the housing refits to get more people into HQ housing should leave us at 10 pop in LQ housing (if we get really lucky 7 from phase 2 finishing) which should help the general mood from fewer people being unhappy with the living situation and as long as we can put a die here and there into the project let us finish up the last 2 phases and between that and the arcology department get everyone into HQ housing which would be a very nice achievement to get.
Heavy Industry: Another U Series Alloy Foundry phase because the discounts save us dice both in HI and in other categories and more power generation as we have a lot of power outlays to get through.
LCI: Keep on plugging away at Reykjavik with a chance to finish it next turn and get some nice boosts and knock out a plan goal. (8 dice, that is 2 turns is 85% to finish)
Agri: Dairy Ranches is a plan goal, Agri Mech does not eat up labor so try and finish that off to also keep food surplus up, start on Reforestation and also try and get the lab meat dev done.
Tib: AEVA because we have a lot of tib stuff to chew through and more bonuses here lets us get more abatement and income, plus Karachi uses tib and infra dice with at least 1 having to be tib and tib has our highest bonus even before AEVA. 1 RZ Border Offensive to ease ZOCOM back into things, also unlocks a Deep Glacier for next turn, plus lets us put dice elsewhere such as 2 dice on HG Refit (this improves our STU generation formula and is a plan goal with 7 phases needing to be done so doing a bit each turn helps) and also trying to knock out 2 inhibitors this turn which would be 2 of 3 in our plan goal
Orbital: 4 dice on both stations to move them further as we need to finish them and followup stations to both hit plan goals as well as reassure our people. Erewhon and an AA die go to trying to finish the 2 shipyards at high odds to keep dice with bonuses on the stations.
Services: Tib AEVA because it will help with Karachi (a plan goal that we need to pour a lot of progress into) as well as general tib efforts which is where our funding for plans comes from, nets us STU to use elsewhere and provides the abatement we need to not die to tiberium and give us enough time to figure out a solution. Other die goes to trying to finish autodoc dev.
Military: Hard focus on SADN should see phases 2 and 3 finish leaving only phase 4 to do in Q3 to knock out that plan goal while also hardening us against strategic attacks which some of NOD is likely to be considering. 1 die to finish the current set of GZ armor and open the next set which is another plan goal and something we need in general and the steel talon die to finish Combat laser dev which is yet another plan goal.
Bureau: Hand off Cap goods to private sector to help them build, this is half of the amount we need to hand off this plan, provide more funding to InOps and activate a AA die.
Thoughts?
Current Economic Issues:
Housing: +72 (14 population in low quality housing) (+1 high-quality housing per turn) (-2 Post War 1, +1 per turn for -1 housing, +4 to HQ housing)
Energy: +27 (+5 in reserve)(+3? Per turn) (-4 U Series, +19 2nd Gen Fusion, -1 Agri Mech, -1 Dairy Ranches 2, +2 RZ Border Offensive, -6 2 Inhibitors, -3 AEVA, -2 SADN Phase 2 and 3, -2 GF ZA Totals:19, +2, +19- worst case we are at +11 more likely we end up higher from fusion finishing)
Logistics: +17 (-2 from military activity) (+5 Suborbital Shuttles)
Food: +27 (+24 backed reserve, +5 unbacked reserve) (Perennials: +1 on Q4 2063) (+12 Agri Mech, -3 Dairy Ranches, +4 Shala 4)
Health: +23 (-8 from refugees)
Capital Goods: +27 (+2 per turn from Distributed Industrial Authority) (+262 in reserve) (-1 Agri Mech, -1 Gravitic Shipyard, -4 AEVA, -1 Zone Armor -10 Hand off to private sector New total: 12 (27-17+2))
STUs: +11 (-2 U Series, +? Refits, RZ Border offensive, -2 Gravitic Shipyard, New Total 7+Gains)
Consumer Goods: +211 (+5 per turn from Private Industry) (+3 per turn from sub-departments) (+1 per turn from perennials. -1 per turn Q1 2064) (Net +9 per turn) (+6 Dairy Ranches, +2 Shala 4)
Labor: +31 (Net +1 per turn) (-1 2nd Gen Fusion, -1 Dairy Ranches, -2 Zone Armor New Total: +28)
Tiberium Processing Capacity (2690/3800) (+15-35 RZ Border Offensive)
Tiberium Reserve (0/500)
Taxation Per Turn: +105 (+15 per turn from Private Industry)
Space Mining Per Turn: +100
Maintenance Reductions: +50
Green Zone Water: +5
Plan Goals
Provide 42 Consumer Goods points from the Treasury (6 from Dairy Ranches, 2 Shala 4)
Provide 9 Consumer Goods from Agriculture (6 from Dairy Ranches, 2 Shala 4- only 1 needed, Shala 5 will more than knock this out)
Increase Income by 585 (15-35 from RZ Border Offensive)
Increase Tiberium Processing limit by 470
Increase population in space by 17.15k (.3k Shala 4)
Provide 28 Points of Red Zone Abatement (2 from RZ Border Offensive)
Provide 30 Resources in grants
Spend at least one die on Steel Talons projects every turn Fulfilled
Projects
Complete Karachi Planned City by end of 2065
Deploy Orca Wingman Drones by end of 2065
Complete North Boston Phase 5
Develop and deploy Governor-A refit
Deploy Conestoga class
Complete at least 3 Blue Zone Inhibitors by end of 2065 2 of 3
Compete Dairy Ranching Domes Phase 2 by end of 2065 Finished
Complete 1 of Nuuk, Reykjavik, Bergen Progress on Reykjavik
Complete all phases of Red Zone Border Offensives before 2064 1 more Phase done
Complete SADN Phase 4 3 of 4
Complete at least 5 Ground Forces Zone Armor factories 1 more done, 4 of set 2 will need to be done
Complete all of the following projects:
Transorbital Fighter Development or follow on heavy ship development, Combat Laser Development, and Unmanned Support Ground Vehicle Development Combat Laser finishes
Complete 2 phases of Reforestation Campaign Preparation Progress on Phase 1
Complete Fusion and Gravitic Shipyard Bays before the Elections Both have high chance to finish
Develop both Next Generation Armored and Support Vehicles by end of 2065
Complete Regional Hospital Expansions by end of 2065
Promises to Litvinov:
Do not activate Free Dice (except for Tiberium) unless all Department Dice are active. Fulfilled
Spend no more than two free dice per turn on Military. Fulfilled
Activate Refit Department
Hand off at least 20 points of Capital Goods to market over the course of the plan. (Hands off 10 of 20)
Complete Improved Hewlett Gardener Refits before end of plan (Phase 2 of 7)
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