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    • Orthodox: conforming to established doctrine

    Warning, themes of racism present


    The sliding door of the arcology room closed and he entered the room carrying multiple bags of food, enough to last a week in the fridge, The recent war have largely drained the shelves of the more critical food stuffs like eggs, chicken, fruits, spices and fruit and even more unusual foods like Entari. While some of the stores are quickly closing down as fast as the stocks fly out of the shelves. The store he purchases is that of a true loyal one, catering only to those born on Blue Zones and such can only be bought from and accessed by the True Sons and Daughters of the Initiative and such does not sell to the new 'residents' that are being settled on the apartments. He could barely hid the sneer on his mouth at the thought of the new residents.

    These so-called, immigrants, Yellow Zoner bastards that even now hinder the Initiative from their victory and the so called leaders that are enabling this foolishness. It all started with Granger, that soft hearted Treasury academic who opened the floodgates for immigration and allowed the scum to enter the Blue Zones. It was needed, they said, the population was now critically low and needed Fresh Blood, they needed to rebuild the population and work on a different solution against Nod.

    What stupid idiots.It was an Iron Fist they needed, not a Velvet Glove.Who was it that destroyed the Blue Zones and killed millions of people?

    Sure it was the Aliens, but it was they who started it.

    He placed the food on his refrigerator and went back into the computer. He was a Data Analyst which enabled him to do work from home. This allowed him access to GDIOnline while working and allowed him to express his views on the net as it did not disturb his job that much. The latest war between GDI and Nod was winding, down, and unlike the last three, GDI was undisputedly the victor, large amounts of territory have been conquered and while Nod had been able to do some damage, it was a pale shadow to the amount they caused in the opening salvo of the third war as the high expenditure on the Military and their early offensive had caused Nod to become unbalanced and can only mount failed offensive after failed offensive with a few victories for huge losses.

    While GDI did lose some men, it was at a far lower cost in lives and resources than the last war. Well, they did fight an Alien Invasion on that one but the thought still counts. They were able to conquer large swathes of Yellow Zones and bring GDI Control into that of some Red Zone Borders. A lot of the Tib Nerds on GDI online were jumping in joy on that one, saying things about bringing more Tib to GDI Coffers, that was fine, he didn't understand the hype but it was fine.

    What made his Blood Boil however, was the ongoing refugee crisis. Even as the war is winding down, the amount of Yellow Zoners marching down to the Blue Zones is increasing in numbers. It appears that unlike what he was expecting, this was apparently a military decision. Moving millions of people back into the Blue Zones while using the Fortress Towns as temporary shelters. It was because of these Yellows that the GDI Populace is once again nearing destitution, with much of cellphones, toys, and appliances being stolen from their rightful Blue Zone Owners. Not to mention the high demand for food that is being barely kept from starvation by expanding aquaponics, forcing him and his people into bland food for the rest of the year,

    At least the construction on apartments are continuing on a rapid pace with many being done on March and Blue Zoners being given priority although it left a bitter taste to his mouth that many Yellows will be given the apartments as well with more on the way. Why don't they just stash them into those damn commieblocks from ten years ago and leave them the arcologies, he'll never understand.

    As natural, he expressed his honesty on GDIOnline, he lambasted the refugees streaming through like the leeches and worms they are. He criticized the incorrect spending, he spoke in support of Ozawa and the True defenders of the Initiative. He refused to entertain that the Government's Policy was working, never admit and always denying to himself and to all, that integrating the Yellows into GDI weakened Nod more ever before. That the growth of GDI was due to these Yellows. He refused to bow to them, to relinquish the purity of the Blue Zones.

    Even though he knows deep inside that it was hopeless. GDI was benefiting too much from integrating the Yellows into GDI.

    But he will not give up. He will deny them. He will never let the Yellows Win.

    __

    Being the Wife of a GDI Soldier was a rather easy thing, hers was no high ranking but enough in the position that she can live comfortably without working a single day in her life. Not that there was much to purchase on shelves even with the war Winding down.

    There was too much demand from the new citizens for consumer goods that even with manufacturing spooling back up and expansion of factories, it was predicted by the news that it would take another six months before the food and consumer demand subsides. Although that would depend on the amount of refugees that is entering GDI Lines.

    100 Million Yellows, even now the numbers boggle her. The news estimated even more would be coming in the following months, possible 10 to 30 million worldwide as Nod is far too weakened to stop their own workforce from packing up and riding into GDI Lines now that Blue Zones expand further and the Green is walking distance to Nod Cities.

    A pang of disgust entered her mind but was replaced by weary acceptance, She could not, will never, trust the Yellow Zoners. However, unlike many of her peers in GDI Online, she could never deny their usefulness and their key role in GDI and the necessity of defeating Nod by starving them out of recruits and workforce.

    Her husband had always mentioned that this was the primary policy laid down by Director Granger, not the Doctor. However, that stupid Tib Eating treasury academic turned what was supposed to be a sound strategy into a goddamn charity case. Instead of making them work for acceptance into GDI, he just gave them the keys

    That does not mean however that she will let her guard down. Many Yellow Zoners still have relatives in Nod and that is more than enough mistrust them all and even now, the Blue Zones are still reeling from the massive amounts of Yellows being settled into the Blue Zones and the recent terrorist attacks. However, no matter how much she rages in the internet, she will never be listened into.

    All the bureaucrats saw was numbers, number of people they saved, not the results, not what the people felt and their struggle. That said, it wasn't that she was against integrating Yellow Zoners into GDI, she just firmly believed that they had to earn their luxury and atone for their former allegiance by serving in the army like proper GDI Citizens, not just being given for free, after all, they were naturally ungrateful and must not be given an inch lest they ask more from GDI.



    A/N, My first attempt at an omake. I have always wondered how an average Initiative Firster thinks of the current period, not those looking for security or QOL Improvement but legitimate BZ Supremacists. The following viewpoints are from, TopTier Citizens and GDIWife (Top IF Posters in GDI Online)

    I hope this was able to get their tone and context correct.
     
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    • Omake: Backroom meetings (Canon)
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    • Omake: Backroom meetings

    "Good we're all here." Representative Lawrence addressed the room. The initiative Firster and Free market party member noticeably sat close together, while the representatives from other parties mostly ignored the pair and chatted amongst themselves. The small group having at least one individual from each of the major parties. Primarily from the pacific bluezones a majority of their members were either American or of Asian, or specifically Japanese descent, more than a few having shared ancestry. And fortunately, or unfortunately for Lawrence's ability to control them a number were close colleagues, some he even considered friends.

    "What are they here for?" Representative Bertisson snapped angrily, pointing. "I thought you had something to actually offer. But really? The UYL? The socialists?!" He sneered.

    "Kyle is it?" Lawrence asked calmly eyeing the young firebrand politician. A newcomer to their group and the only Initiative first member willing to attend the private meeting.

    "Representative Bertisson." He stressed.

    "Kyle, we're not in an official meeting here. And you might wish to recall I'm a market socialist myself. So if you shut up for five minutes you'll learn what this is about."

    "What is it about Ernest? You mentioned a little to my PA about the next plans budget." Former Base commander Icari (now representative Icari) noted.

    "I'm a member of parliament. You can't talk to me like that." Kyle muttered sulkily.

    "Kid shut up." John Rodgers Representative from the Developmentalists snapped. "I skimmed the thing Ernest, you're worried about some kind of coup?" He asked concerned.

    "What?!" The nervous looking spectacled man asked in shock. Judging by the pin on his lapel a member of the reclamation Party. A minor party all told, but tiberium abatement was a big enough issues that their voices were often heard at major votes and they helped draft much of the final legislation. "Are you guys planning a coup? I can't be part of a coup!"

    "Just settle down Martin." Icari calmed him. "Ernest? Please share with the room."

    "It just better not be another idealistic 'supermajority' coalition again. The Free Market party has seen how those tend to shut us out." Their representative put in snidely.

    "In a sense." Ernest sighed earning several groans as John and others sighed and stood up to go. "Just five minutes. I'll explain what I have, and we can all take it back to our respective parties. But this, it goes beyond socialism vs capitalism, free market slash regulation paradigms. It's not an immediate concern but there's some troubling markers. I've sent a copy of my thesis to InOps for them to review."

    "InOps?! What the fuck old man!?" Kyle yelled angrily.

    "Kyle. Please." Icari stressed.

    "Thank you Ami." Lawrence sighed. "It's just theory and speculation, but, it's something we need to bear in mind and get ahead of. I'm talking a political shift. From monarchistic systems to a parliamentarian one. Something that renders previous political compasses, the right-left divide, largely obsolete."

    "What is?" John asked sharply. "You haven't explained what the problem is." He pointed out.

    "Maybe if people would stop interrupting." Doctor Natsume pointed out.

    "Right, okay. So. Everyone knows most of the economy is a shitshow right? At least compared to pre-war." He asked receiving nods around the room.

    "It's recovering though right?" Martin asked, his statement phrased uncertainly. "I mean, we've got the glacier mining and large scale tiberium extraction. Sure the civilian economy isn't great but-"

    "That is, in fact, precisely the problem." Lawrence sighed pointing a remote and bringing up a chart. "Compare the percentages of GDI's Gross domestic product. While the bulk of it is in resource extraction and a significant amount is made up of manufacturing, consumer spending and tax is a negligible part of the overall economy."

    "But that's good right?" Yukino asked. "With plentiful natural resources funding the economy, taxes are low, while citizens get essential goods and services guaranteed by the state." A socialist through and through Lawrence thought wryly.

    "Technically and perhaps more accurately Representative Yukino we should say that the tiberium extraction is funding the budget. The budget and the economy aren't necessarily one and the same. Prior to tib war three, GDI of course mined tiberium. However the consumer economy and its taxes made up a far greater portion of the budget."

    "I'm not seeing the problem with lower taxes for blue zones." Kyle pointed out earning noises of disgust. Lawrence frowning but continuing to explain.

    "The Problem. Is the wealth trap." Lawrence stated softly.

    "Oh please." Jack scoffed. "Am I expected to sit here through some thinly veiled digs about corruption? The Free Market party is committed to stimulating the economy and raising living standards for everyone-"

    "Humans are surplus to requirement." Lawrence blurted out shocking the room.

    "Excuse me?!"

    "Yellow. Green. Blue. Doesn't matter. Even blue zoners. Even us. We're politicians but we're not the government." Lawrence said talking rapidily. "Wealth extraction is like tourism. Good in small amounts, but basing your entire economy around it leads to side effects. In our case, the wealth trap. A phenomena wherin small and poor nations which hit natural resources but had little capital, extractive or manufacturing capacity of their own largely received aid to export the raw materials to the first world. Diamonds, oil, precious metals, rare earth materials, even tiberium."

    "GDI isn't some hick yellow zone fortress ran by a maniac with a bunch of militia and buggies!" Kyle snapped angrily.

    "No, GDI has the largest most powerful military in the world. But that's irrelevant. The problem is the same, worse even in some ways. If said dictator has a more powerful military at their command. A consumer economy relies upon educating the populace, service jobs, the financial sector, whatever it is, the bulk of the wealth- the real wealth that is comes from the labour of the people. People working factory jobs, or in support roles to keep manufacturing workers fed, and so on and so forth. Civilians provide much of the economy and so can enact change through strike action, which if their employers or government don't want to see much of their economy grind to a halt means they have to keep the civilian population happy. Along with a need for hospitals to keep the workers healthy and so on. But in an extraction economy the local warlord only needs to slap down a fort on a gold mine, grab a couple hundred soldiers and however many miners, and a dictator can control the bulk of the wealth of an entire nation of millions. Funnelling Millions or billions to themselves and a small group of supporters while the rest of the country languishes in poverty and see's little to no of that wealth."

    "Skating by on the bare minimum for the civilians you mean?" John pointed out. "Those damn 'carbon ration packs'."

    "Fuck Lawrence, you think-"

    "Not yet. But, look at the automated factory's, GDI's military apparatus the tiberium economy. More and more, despite the governments move to reopen and expand parliament the bulk of GDI's economy is heading straight into the governmental budget while the civilian economy stalls, leaving people in poverty. I'm not accusing anyone of anything. What I am trying to do is highlight how currently, our democracy is in danger. If the director, the military high command, and the civil service make the choice. A very small number of figures in GDI could overnight take control of the bulk of the economy. And from economic control, stems political control. If a government isn't reliant upon the labour of the people to sustain itself, or can survive with only a small number of people. Then it doesn't need the consent of the governed- And don't smirk Jack. Think on this, You and the free Market party or initiative first very definitely won't be a part of this new world order. Just look at how the treasury has largely sidelined your own demands."

    "The treasury does as parliament wills." The sole developmentalist in the room sighs tiredly. "Our party has been overall quite pleased with the work of the treasury as it stands."

    "I'm not accusing them. Just saying, that, if for the sake of argument, the civilian economy is anemic and it seems to be more of a burden than a benefit, I could easily see some arguing, on the economic benefits for doing the minimum needed for the civilian populace. And, while not yet an issue. I'm highlighting historic trends. States with large and diverse economies that rely upon their citizens for taxes tend to be more democratic than those that produce and export valuable material resources. And I would hate to see a... culture form where doing the minimum is acceptable. That way leads... Technically humanity could survive with only a few thousand specimens. Less if using tissue samples. Afterall, a freezer of DNA and a few million families equal the same amount of genetic diversity, either would be plenty to complete the goal of saving the species. And one would be vastly cheaper of course."

    "So the solution? Is there one?" Icari asked.

    "Of course." Lawrence blinked. "Invest in the civilian economy, stimulate consumer spending. Show the bureaucratic apparatchik that the labour force isn't just a drain on the budget, and conversely could even generate revenue. And yes, for the militarists the preliminary budgets for the next plan include military factories, as they provide jobs and taxable income too. My argument is simply this. We place some roadblocks and delays in the way, we need more zone suits for safety, we need more refineries to cut down on logistics and transport. We would prefer inhibitors to more harvesters. As meanwhile, we invest in the civilian side of things, in order to limit the overreliance upon one sector of the economy and improve the consumer economy."

    "That's it?" Icari asked feeling relief.

    "That's it, and it's something we should all want. Better living conditions for our voters. But phrased to the civil service in a way as to grow the civilian economy. While at the same time... We're not stopping abatement. But we try to slow new mining projects in favour of newer technologies such as the inhibitors and sort out our refining logistics in order to cut down on transport losses to nod."

    "The treasury won't like it." Yukino pointed out.

    "That's kind of the point. The treasury wants to control the economy and to the number crunchers more tiberium mined is always good. But if the government can fund its operations and fund its operations without the input of most the population then there's always going to be someone who starts wondering if it wouldn't be more efficient to just cut welfare or even worse cut the public out of politics altogether. Frankly with how some officials have brushed off our freedom of information requests on the food stockpiles worrying signs are already there. It could be nothing, but extraction economies can have harmful side effects if the proceeds aren't put towards the diversification of the economy. It's like a pyramid. Any economy needs a strong and broad base. Put in those terms. I'm sure we'll be able to convince our parties to do something for the next plan."
     
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    • "This proposal is insane", Seo Thoki blurted out as he read the final part of the proposal, This morning the InOps representative handed him a thesis regarding the next plan provided by a Market Socialist representative with a recommendation to review at his convenience.

    After a strenuous day at work, he sent a Copy to the vice Secretary and asked him to his room to review the proposal. An action that he is now regretting after reading the file.

    "Not all of it" remarked, Julian Taylor, "I do agree with many of the proposals in the thesis but several of them are rather...flawed in their perception of our current situation"

    "I know that he wants to increase the Market Share of the economy and rely more on taxation and service economies and to further expand the quality of life", he replied, "I am fine with it, the problem that we currently have is that Free Trade depends on a peaceful or at least a stable one where we have minimal to no disruptions to Logistics. We don't have that. What we have is a world with at least four world wars and a crystal choking us to death that is so beneficial in Industry that we can provide a better standard of living despite the current situation, Lest he forget,, its been less that two months since the war ended and the fact that the Blue Zones are barely damaged compared to the last one is a miracle"

    "I have no qualms about most of the spending request," the Vice Secretary explained, "However, he is right that we have been spending too much on Tiberium and Military, Seo. Even with the grants, there is not enough for people to buy and purchase. I know things will be improving now that the war has ended, but it is time that we make them our priority. Not pie in the sky stuff."

    Seo knows, what he meant. He was referring to the Pinhole Portal Project, while few considered it a waste of time to study and reverse engineer alien tech. Julian was among those that opposed the project, feeling that the money spent could have been put to use by increasing agricultural output and providing more consumer products and services would have been the better use.

    "That project would have leapt our technology by a significant amount, Julian", he defended the decision, "I know it seems a waste considering the current progress and the need to complete stored food requirements given by the Parliament but i stand by in starting the project,"

    "I know, I know", the former ZOCOM remarked, "But the simple fact is that we also need to give our people something else more than just Bland Beans and Fungus bars while we build portals and Sky Drones. Also, we have added another extra 100 Million People on our side, people who are still reluctant to trust us after being years with only Nod to save them. We have to show that we are a better option than Kane and Nod, Lastly, Ozawa and his ilk are making more noise and turning over more people at their side and the more we ignore the consumer goods situation, the more people will listen to their crap and we lose hard earned trust we gained with the Yellow Zones"

    "Yes, we will take care of that in time, I promise. We should have enough cash for the remaining 9 months to establish the food supply and get more consumer good released before the next plan" he assured, "However, it is the last part that I absolutely refuse to entertain"

    Taylor chuckled, "Yeah, I understand what you mean"

    "He wants to limit the harvest for the next plan!", Seo exclaimed in annoyance, "Does he have any Idea how much resources we will need for future projects. Not just stations and scientific research but also for Quality of Life Improvements? Economies take time to go full steam in taxation and services to generate revenue, Tiberium Harvesting remains the fastest and most efficient way to gather both resources and income and with Nod and if I am hearing correct from Space Force, Scrin remnants in Jupiter, we have to keep getting as much resources as possible without sacrificing projects to increase quality of life for our people and new citizens"

    "It might be best to get ahead of them", the Vice Secretary shared, " Promise them to increase grants for the private sector. Ignore Taxes for now and just get the companies to start making more products to sell. Build more farms, get that Arcology Bureau setup, show people that Tiberium Harvesting is very important because it allows us to maximize the benefits, You can reduce military spending for now, get the Zone Factories and Shipyards built to take advantage of the workforce but concentrate less on fancy weaponry and focus on the high priorities made by the representatives instead of jumping from one fancy weapons system to another. Spread out our refineries so we are not dependent on Mecca and Chicago"

    "I will keep note of them", Thoki assured, "But for now, we need to wait for the next plan for the demands to how we will respond,
     
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    • Omake: Children of Thessia, playing games.

    For Kelsia, and hundreds of other Asari Matrons on the world of Nevos the week had begun like any other. She was an everyday stay-at-home matron mother just beginning to get back into working from home in her job as tech support and she needed something to occupy her daughters time for short periods. She herself would be in the same room as Caryna supervising her daughters tech use, but she wanted some extra tutoring for Caryna before she entered a group creche daily rather than just the trial days she'd taken so far.

    And so at one of those social playgroups for children and mothers to meet Kelsia had been recommended a 'guided learning through play' application. Completely free it had been curated by the local extranet authorities as Cool Blue for safe and came with multiple glowing recommendations. No spyware or data usage, nor any malware any scans could find, no intrusive ads and of course, child friendly.

    Not an advanced education tool. It was more aimed at younger minds and predominately included free and simple lessons. There had been some concern over how it made money, but apart from occasionally suggesting local fruits and flowers for planting at home for lessons with parents on plants life cycles it didn't appear to be monetised. The running theory was it was simply someone doing it as a hobby, a charity, or simply some kind of marketing stunt based around the VI which led most of the lessons.

    Kelsia downloaded it to her omni-tool. The application for use with most electronic devices, from omni-tools to standard tablet screens or even home entertainment systems. The application itself wasn't so much the game. As the VI which coded the games and tailored them to the childs age range, intelligence and species. And installing it on the durable child-friendly tablet at home the small smart device scanned the new software carefully before with a soft chime confirmed the new application was safe to run.

    Cuddling Caryna on her lap with the screen in front of them Kelsia tapped the screen to begin, Caryna's pudgy blue palms joining her own. A calm voice emanating from the device. "Greeting new users. Do you wish to create new profiles?"

    "Yes." Kelsia acknowledged. The devices VI waiting several processing cycles to confirm her words before continuing.

    "Would you like to enable parental controls?" The VI asked.

    "Yes." Kelsia accepted.

    "Please smile into the camera in order to enable facial recognition." The voice chimed. Kelsia automatically accepting the request and smiling. "New user profiles created. One- child permissions." It said highlighting Caryna's face. "One- Parental permissions." It continued highlighting Kelsia's face. "Is this correct?"

    "Yes." Kelsia and Caryna both nodded.

    "Permissions set. Welcome new users. This unit is designated Rosetta! You can call me Rose for short if my full name is too long." The voice announced happily. "Do you wish to set names?" Kelsia and Caryna did so and the games eventually began. A splotch of colour appearing on the screen. "This colour is Yellow. Can you say yellow?" They did so dutifully, as a short rainbow of colours appeared. The soft VI adapting quickly, and soon displaying multiple colours, saying one and asking the child user to press the correct one. After that came numbers, and some basic shapes and questions. "How many edges does a square have? That's correct! Four!"

    Simple questions. Perhaps too simple for an eight year old Asari, but this introductory period was about establishing a baseline for future expansion on.

    After maths came simple animals and the noises they made. Then plants, a short animated video of a seed being planted and watered and growing. "Wooow! Did you know it takes thousands of liters of water to grow a tonne of Geliberries?! They sure are thirsty! But asari brains need water too! Why don't we take a short break!?"

    Laughing Kelsia agreed to a break preparing jam crackers with geliberry jam as Rosetta suggested. "Do you want to be a farmer and feed people? Or perhaps you'd like to be a geneticist, trying to select and improve tastier variants or other useful properties such as requiring less water?"

    "I can be lots of things!" Caryna giggled. It was true too. Kelsia had left having children a bit late and had multiple doctorates ranging from social sciences and xenobiology to diplomacy, engineering and software coding. The benefit to Asari long lives was that they weren't limited into being one thing like Hanar, Drell or Batarians.

    Snacktime over Rosetta suggested a dance for exercise, explaining how muscles got stronger when they were used, Caryna taking the opportunity to bound around the room waving her arms.

    "Rosetta. calm down." Kelsia told the Vi singing "Doop doop doop de doop." Along with a songs music. "Keep it quiet. I have to work now." Kelsia said going to her workstation as the VI loaded up a simplistic finger painting program to occupy Caryna. Kelsia beginning to work her way through simple bugfixes remotely with her daughter occupied and happy and nearby.

    It had seemed so simple. A VI, better coded than the citadels Avina model, but ultimately designed to answer questions and lead the player through simple gamified learning curriculum's based on free data downloaded from local extranet servers.

    And it wasn't like Kelsia had abandoned her daughter to a screen. She set time limits and the app had several limits of its own built in. "You've been playing for a while. Why don't you rest your eyes and do something else for a while?" Or. "It's late at night, you should be sleeping." Or for History lessons. "Parental guidance required- subject, formation of the council, rachni-wars and krogan rebellions." Said historical short giving a very simple and sanitised version of the events in question.

    The point being that parental oversight was easy, and often encouraged or even required. "Get your parents permission before planting seeds in the garden, we wouldn't want to make a mess of any flowers she has."

    There was potentially years of content. The VI scanning and curating material from the local extranet. Information on seeds if you learned it unlocked a farming game where you planted plants and waited for them to grow, using them to perhaps feed animals. Once other targets were met it perhaps unlocked a citybuilder mode. Explaining road and skyway planning.

    There had been parents who had it longer than Kelsia, and with older children too. But after a while strange things began appearing on the app. In addition to animals such as Varren, commonly found throughout the galaxy the games introduced dogs (which made a 'woof' or barking noise. And cats which 'miaow'd', horses which neighed, and cows which mewed. It was dimissed as perhaps some animals species from far off colony worlds. Or perhaps imaginary animals from games or cartoons or such.

    Recently after a lesson on the council, and Asari history of diplomacy. In another animal lesson Kelsia herself even saw a fawn, a strange fragile creature with spindly legs and wide eyes which bounced away fearfully from the camera in a short video. Then Rosetta interrupted the video, her face a far paler colour than the usual asari blue she sported and strange fur hanging from her scalp. "Thank you for taking part in this first contact package. We hope you've enjoyed the games and have learned a lot. Humans have learned a lot about you and hope to meet you soon. Until we do meet, please, continue to play and enjoy, and from the Global Defense Initiative and humanity we hope to be friends, have fun and stay curious!"

    Kelsia blinked in shock at those sudden words. A first contact package? And rather than approaching openly the aliens had almost exclusively targeted children. What's more is they'd apparently been spying on Asari for some time in order to learn from them?!

    She immediately locked down the tablet, removing all permissions for the app to send or receive further data from the extranet, and bustling Caryna into the kitchen to eat her lunch began making calls on her omni-tool, the first one being to a former colleague working at the Thessia university.

    "Inara, I've got something Big I think there's a first contact!" Kelsia rushed out while Carnya slurped on her soup noisily, happily dunking strips of sugarbread.

    "At Nevos? Haven't you're local government got it handled?"

    "it's no- it's. I don't know. It might be a prank. I thought it was just a game- there's this VI. We've had it a week. It just came out with a message about aliens called humans and other animals. I've never heard of them! Please tell me the animals are some exotic xenofauna from a middle of nowhere frontier world or something."

    "Huh, I'm watching the new now, yeah, this is widespread. Seems harmless. Oh wow, have you asked the VI for more information on humans?"

    "No. I blocked all permissions and put it in sleep mode. I don't think I'm turning that tablet back on again until I'm sure it's safe."

    "Okay, cool. Probably smart, most parents either haven't had that message yet or are deleting the applications. Hold onto it and we'll check it out. There will be police outside your door in about ten standard minutes they'll confiscate the tablet, and we'll bring you and Caryna in for some gentle questions, whatever you can tell us before we begin interrogating that VI and extracting intelligence should be helpful. You okay?"

    "Yeah. We're fine just- What if they'd set it to overload the tablet or something like that?! Caryna could have been hurt!" Kelsia realised in mounting horror.

    "Hey, hey, your eclipse is showing. -Wow, it's not just asari that were hit by this, some other species too. Okay. Look, from everything I'm seeing right now it looks like it is, just a game. I can already see talking heads theorising the 'education' part was a way to get info from the extranet without suspicion for large data draws. And, every case I can see it's looking like a friendly hello. Hi, we're friendly aliens, let's play some fun games, we like science and value education. We'll meet soon. Granted, Asari normally prefer face to face meetings before letting other people go through our omni-tools but so far the only weird thing is that there's a race that's seen us. Normally lesser races either blunder straight into our paths in a great big obvious first contact, often panicked or messy. Or-"

    "Or?" Kelsia asked.

    "Or it's us or the Salarians that are sending probes and educating and uplifting lesser races. Granted, they're hardly uplifting us with our own knowledge, free knowledge at that, but it implies we share similiar values. At least, I hope we do."

    Begrudgingly Kelsia felt her apprehension slowly melt away at her friends words. New aliens wanting to join the embassy races always spelled opportunity.
     
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    • Irrelevance

    Backroom meetings are fairly common in the Philadelphia and this current conference is just among the many where representatives of the Parliament can discuss with their ranks their plans for future policies and elections.

    This one is no different with the exception of those in the meeting. Hideo Ozawa, formerly known as Colonel Hideo Ozawa, protege of the legendary Nick 'Havoc' Parker and the Party Leader of Initiative First sat on the front most part of the table.

    Around him were some of the top most leadership of Initiative First, on his right is BZ 4 IF Representative August Walker, a hulking beast of a bearded man and former InOps with sleek black hair. On the right chair is Kim Yon-suk, a former FMP BZ 7 Representative who defected to IF in 2055 after GDI under Granger enacted anti-corporate policies that prevented his stranglehold in many conglomerates that caused his fortunes to plummet. While still very wealthy by even Pre-Tiberium Standards, he has rallied against the new Treasury Policies that prevented the application of wealth and prevent monopolies that would have allowed him to expand his political control.

    After them are several more representatives of IF who gathered together on this meeting. With Ozawa evermore excerting stronger control over Initiative First and the waning fortunes of the party, few were willing to oppose the first party leader and none in his Family are interested in Politics.

    Whatever their interest and goals, they only have one purpose in the end. To keep the Initiative Pure and Focused, the absorption of the Yellows and Nod defectors have not only tainted and weakened the Initiative but prevented them from avenging the dead.

    "Since all of us are here", Ozawa announced, "Let us begin this meeting"

    He turned to one of the newer, Representatives, Ella Fall, a beautiful brunette with shoulder length with Amber Colored eyes. While a staunch Firster, she usually prefers less vitriol than most other candidates and uses a mix of soft speeches and manipulative wording to turn people agains both Treasury Policies and the pouring refugees into the Blue Zones.

    "Miss Fall, I believe you mentioned intensifying the anti-yellow zoner campaigns on screen and GDIOnline. However, you mentioned that it should be done within 2062 to 2063. Any particular reason why we should not begin your recommended material immediately while the war is still stabilizing?"

    "Yeah, I mean that Greedy Yellow Zoner idea of yours really hit the spot", pointed out BZ-1 IF Kyle Bertisson, "We had a slight uptick of interest from Blue Zoners worldwide since the release of those shorts. Not enough to hit an extra percent but it is rising everyday particularly to the ones fresh out of Uni.Some of your newer proposals were quite eye-catching"

    "The issue is with the timing.", the young woman explained, "As everyone this one is aware, the treasury just established the Bureau of Arcologies and started a new consumer goods department that slowly released a significant amount of new products and builds up new Arcologies per quarter. Some of our respondents and voters have become less wary of the treasury with these measures although, only a small uptick will become a major obstacle in our platform in the future".

    She turned to Ozawa, "As our leader experienced five years ago, the Treasury was able to complete derail political support from the FMP and Hawks by diverting the budget into Consumer Goods production, how in less than nine months, the stores went from bare to overflowing and it did not stop even now . This is when the treasury only had a third of the budget it had today, ifwe try to use the newer messages and propaganda now while the Treasury is drowning in resources, they will simply pivot to Consumer Goods and we all know how quickly they can churn out factories and food"

    "They still have a few obligations left in the military", remarked Ground Forces Treasury Representative Colonel Donald McClintlock,"With the MIlitarists on their heels regarding the OSRCT Stations and the new Carriers they are limited on where they can spend. Furthermore, ZOCOM is refusing to go to further Red Zones unless enough Zone Suits are deployed into Ground Forces to Free them up"

    "And that is precisely why I wish to recommend holding off the new messages and programs after the allocation", she explained, "So long as the treasury has full control of 50% of the current budget, they can pivot a significant amount of cash into countering our efforts. The massive Apartment Constructions on the last six months has already reduced the significant amounts of poor housing and has curtailed our efforts in using it align the populace to popular support. All Blue Zoners now live in the Apartments while there is a lot of slack on the housing that even the refugee wave will not be enought to fill it"

    "But even with the grants-"started Yon-suk

    "Oh the grants will not be enough to completely fill the shelves, especially since the demands keep rising with the Yellows coming in larger numbers", she explained, "But the last thing we want is to completely gain the fury of the Treasury at this late in stage in the plan. Make no mistake, should we push Seo and the Director further, they will toss every plan and Parliament requirement in the window if means drowning GDI in consumer goods, arcologies and good food"

    "Not to mention, we are the only party remaining that actively opposses intregrating the Yellow Zoners in the franchise", pointed out John Keller, former FMP turned to IF who defected only last month, "The FMP is starting to gain more traction to Yellows than UYL and they are overturning any of their former positions to gain these voters"

    "Not to mention that dumbass Hahn, refuses to coordinate with us!" snarled Bertisson, "Everytime we approach him he always refuses to discuss with us any form of endorsement or cooperation"

    "Mr Hahn is sympathetic to us", Ella remarked, "He would have agreed to our ideals and cause but he is aware of the disfavor we received from the Treasury and he knows that if he approaches this from a Blue Zoner Privilege, his movement will also be ignored out of spite. By convincing the Yellow Zoners to side with him, he is forcing the treasury to acknowledge his requests"

    "We can also pass a bill to block sales of MIlk, Dairy and Steaks to Yellow Zoners", suggested Yon-suk, "I doubt this will be passed or approved but it would increase favor to those disagreeing on the goverment policies"

    "And I suppose, this is why you want to maximize our efforts in 2062", Walker spoke up, cutting out the discussion regarding food, "The Treasury always pivots into filling up its coffers in the first year of the Plan. Glacier MIning, Tib Harvesting. Considering the relative expense of the Tiberium MIning, it will take at least a whole year where they cannot prioritize consumer production and focus more on robotics"

    "ZOCOM will not be avaialble on the first year of the fourth plan. It will be a year of traning and outfitting enough Zone Suits for Ground Forces to be ready to replace available Red Zone Ops, Treasury will be limited to Vein Mining since Yellow Zone expansion is no longer allowed at this time", the Treasury Firster pointed out, "They will gain some cash the but it won't be as fast as the previous plans, at least until the suits are in deployment. Then we can confirm that they will go full bore in Glacier Mining and regain their 2061 budget in less than a year"

    "Not to mention those damned refugees being given voting rights", spoke Representative Frank Underwood, "The next election is on December of 2063, we can expect at least a significant expansion of UYL or even Dev and Starbound on the next Election, of course that would depend on the results of our efforts on the next four years. Since there is no way that any attempt to block off those Yellows from Voting will be accepted by all parties in Parliament"

    "Since any action in Parliament will be blocked off by the majority, we must take action on the ballots. While the numbers of Yellows will be a major problem, this will be a blessing in disguise. We can now point to them as the source of the issues in Blue Zones, the low availability housing and more, we will try to push bills to limit them their purchasing power. Convince Blue Zone businesses to hire less Yellow Zoners", suggested Thomas Jorgensen.

    "Any chance we can convince the military to block off refugees or divert them back to the fortress towns?", Ozawa inquired to the Colonel.

    "Ground Force refuses to consider it even without the Treasury breathing down their necks", he replied, "They want the Fortress towns a Military Only operation, the more Yellows are in the Blue ZOnes, the less they have to worry about in a Nod Offensive"

    "They're just passing the damn problem to us", Bertisson complained,"Aren't they worried about the damn Yellows atacking the cities instead"

    "Then Ladies and Gentlemen, we are operating on a very limited time Window" Ozawa, announced, "The 2062 to 2066 Plan will be our last chance and our most critical part. Over 100 million Yellows are entering the Blue Zones and endangering our people and the number is rising everyday. We have bled and died for the Initiative and yet our current leaders forget who the real enemy is. Us Blue Zoners will not be irrelevant. We will not go quietly into the night"

    A/N: another IF based Omake. This was supposed to be included with Orthodox but It took me some time to finish this. I swear it was never supposed to be this big. Anyhow, hope you Enjoy it

    Edit: By the way, some of the names I used are from Villains in other media. Props to who can identify them

    Also, @Ithillid is there a limit to the amount of omakes that can written or special rule regarding them? My muse is ringing on my head and I have a fair amount to write. Too bad nothing coherent comes out of my brain.
     
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    • It was a bright sunny day outside as two figures discussed matters in a GDI meeting room. Not one of the fancier ones designed for after action reports or discussion of urgent situations, it was more a throwback to the 90s with only a few items here and there showing the current year in design.

    "Alright, where do you think the next revolution's coming from?" The male of the pair asked as he sipped at his drink.

    "Simple. Portals." The declaration was instant and smugly said with an air of believing it obvious.

    "That ongoing project? Really?" Skepticism was upfront at that declaration.

    "You asked where the next revolution in warfare is coming from. I know, Treasury and other departments are focusing on the logistics side, and I know, logistics and warfare go hand in hand. But it's more than that." She paced around, mind working.

    "This is the automobile, the airplane, the steam engine, it will upend everything we know. The first prototypes will be moving dead cargo most likely, some things may go wrong, some issues needing to be worked out, disasters even. But they'll keep at it, refining it. First it will be cleared for ores, then processed metals, devices, food, boxes of ammo, before finally getting to the big one."

    "People."

    "Right. Getting people from site to site. And.. into the field."

    A finger raised at that. "Even they needed specialized structures in the area for that."

    A feminine head shook. "I didn't mean the free standing wormholes. I meant like their rings that brought in their infantry and vehicles. That's when everything, and I mean everything changes."

    She got up to the display, bringing up images to accentuate her points of normal army groups moving.

    "You know how troops move now, units brought in from the sky or moving along the ground, digging in, bringing in materials from the factories back home, but imagine a portal central plan. No need to have masses of troops moving, instead you just need a centralized structure.

    One giant connection back home to work with."

    "An MCV." The guess was on point and direct.

    "Precisely. Doubling as the big connection and workyard for setting up other connections."

    "It would have problems, the storms-"

    "-didn't bother them, now did they?" The interjection came with emphasis by her.

    "..True. Very true. Bastards thrived in them, wreathed their bases in em."

    "And we have their communications methods to work with. Back to the point. Big connection home, haul in the materials, local guard once it's set up. Maybe have the whole thing come down from orbit if Treasury invests more in space. Regardless, it's there, it sets up other portals, for the infantry, for the vehicles, for the ammo, sets up generators to power it all, haul in tib for that maybe.

    Regardless, once it's set up, you just need to get people ready and have them march through. What was one MCV is now-"

    "An army."

    "I see you're getting it. Would need to space things out a little, can't have people clamber through in a mass, give them a few seconds before sending in the next. We'd need places back home with troops readied up, but with space being no object, we could have entire companies on standby to march through in careful groups to avoid congestion, spread over multiple bases. Same with vehicles and aircraft."

    "Issue of them knowing what they're getting into." He objected, knowing that familiarity with the terrain was important.

    "With EVAs we can cut things down, people can read on their own time on the march, adapt to the situation. Not sending them directly into battle after all. Less they're expected to know the less they'd need to know, commandos would need to get a clear picture of what they're going out to hit for instance.

    But with this we could have our forces everywhere, just needing one MCV at a battlefield to get an appropriate force rolling, more and more powerful as time goes on if needed." Her voice picked up in excitement and imagination.

    "We'd need a organizational system to ensure forces are delivered appropriately."

    "Naturally, some shorthand priority for ensuring commanders can get the force they need. Point based maybe?"

    "What? Like one load of tiberium, one infantry squad?"

    A feminine laugh came at that. "Maybe if GDI was some corporation with only an eye for profit rather than victory. No, more like a response to threat level.. details can be worked out once it's a reality, this is just prediction."

    "True enough. I'll admit it is a heady proposition, just getting a force in anywhere."

    "There's also the 'ammo' side of things. While the middle stages where they perfect bringing in people and supplies in a decade, maybe two or more if we're unlucky is where we're thinking of, imagine a bit beyond."

    "Beyond?"

    "When they can have smaller portals from the supply centers chained through local structures to the individual soldiers, with a backup on them in case of disruption somehow of course."

    "I.. I'm not sure-"

    "Imagine a grenadier squad, they come upon a Nod comms center. They have the tools for breaking it, yes. So what do they do?"

    "They hit at it's equipment weakpoints to disable it, then structural weakpoints to attempt a collapse."

    "But at the end the structure is left standing."

    "Naturally, have to conserve their grenades for later targets."

    "But what if they didn't have to?" The question surprised and intrigued the man as the woman leaned in. "What if they had a direct line, to some armory back home filled to the brim with grenades? What if their ammo was effectively unlimited?"

    "That's.. They could just level the thing with enough ammo. Bring it down firmly on any Brotherhood still inside instead of needing to clear it."

    "Exactly. Take that and apply it to a predator tank, to a hammerhead. Imagine an army that can just STAY in the field, firing without fear of running out of ammo, that can just hit tank after tank, infantry after infantry so long as they stay in one piece."

    He leaned back, astounded at the idea, mind full of non-stop firing zone forces save for potential of overheating, grenadiers just bringing Nod bases down on their own if they caught them off guard, MCVs being shipped in with minimal guards into combat areas covertly establishing bases just off to the side of the target instead of a battlezone away. "I can't imagine it. The sheer potential. GDI as a force, fighting like.. that."

    She leaned back with a smug grin, confident in her vision. "I don't think anyone could."
     
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    ...Plushy shortage. This is urgent. This is Light Industry or Service. We can do something about this. We must. [nods firmly]
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    There are myriads of room within the main administrative building of the treasure, and as the several head and leaders of the different sub-deparments gather's before the Leader of the Treasury, they all know something is of grave danger.

    For they had not only gone past the yellow room of critical meetings, but straight into the RED room of danger. This room had only been used once or twice in the past. And as such, each member with tension wrecking their bodies watched Seo pace around the room, as he pointed with a long stick towards an old ancient whiteboard, his voice ringing clear in the air.

    "it's come to my attention....That we have missed a huge critical need" The words, the implications made each member sub-conciously lean forward as the red lights in the RED room of danger glowed omniously. "This is something we need to retrify at once...Before all hope is lost"

    And so, the greatest endevour yet of the Treasury would be launched, far surpasing that of the Stablizer network. Dozen of eyes would follow and wonder at what the huge teams of construction workers were doing, at the cash seemingly vanishing into thin air...including Nod.

    ---

    Kane, he who had seen a thousand world leaned back in his chair, as the Rememberence orders's head were crashed into the floor in deep reverance. His smooth voice ringing out. "I sent you...To find out what GDI has been building recently..." For such a huge influx of manpower was easily noticable by the expertly trained spies of the Nod.

    And all the same, though he would not admit it, it worried Kane. For the last time it had been the stabillzer network. Had GDI perhaps managed to somehow create a better version of that, it would put quite the spanner in his plans if that came to pass. Thus he had sent the Rememberence to find out what exactly GDI were trying to hide.

    And now he had it in front of him...Dozen member's sacrificed in order to find out what exactly was hiding within the huge facilty. With a bowed head, the nameless member presented a suitcase to Kane, as he tenderly grabbed it.

    Spending a second to gaze over the gathered member. "Now let's see here.." With a soft click the suitcase opened as Kane reached inside and a squeaky noise emited from the suitcase. Blinking with what would have looked at shock on anyone else, but surely the Messiah would be shocked he pulled out a soft teddy bear, it's fur excelently made.

    Kane, Master of Nod, the immortal historian, he who would never know cessation, the grand messiah of mankind could only look upon this huggable plushie as he softly uttered "...Damn, this is actually really soft" It was a complete and utter defeat. In that instance Kane knew despair for none of his works would ever compare to the bliss it felt to hold this soft cuddly teddy bear.


    --From the short brief of the history of GDI and NOD pre unifications. 2062
     
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    James, Central north American Green Zone, western seaboard. Under administration of BZ-11

    Locking his 'apartment' door behind him with the card reader James stepped out into the bunker corridor, pulling his cap down low to cover his eyes in anticipation of the upcoming day cycle, the softly lit lights kept at a dim level during the night cycle and what would be early pre-dawn hours of the morning. But as he made his way towards the Kitchen the lighting above him slowly increased in intensity simulating a rough facsimile to the sun that would be rising far above ground.

    Strolling through the corridors James passed by several other early risers however the bulk of the base inhabitants were soldiers, some on duty for the last couple of hours of their overnight shift as they readied breakfast for the next shift just now finishing morning PT. James flexed his hands stepping inside the employee kitchen, swiping his ID card and having the Eva system register him as at work. Washing his hands in the sink he was greeted by several other kitchen workers, all soldiers who nodded at him sharing a few easy words before the warrant officer directed James to his tasks for the morning. James quickly set to work cleaning and peeling vegetables, his job made lighter by the addition of a pair of soldiers on punishment detail and one younger teen sulkily forced to join them. Simple mundane work, that could have probably been done by machines, but some punishments were too motivational or useful to ever be fully automated away in the military.

    Unlike the other three, James was here by choice, mechanical arm rapidly beginning to move onto the next phase of prep as he sliced the vegetables. His job as kitchen porter helping to augment his military pension and injury benefit. Part time employed and with a housing benefit as incentive to live in bunker housing in a fort near the front lines he normally worked a four hour shift four days a week. Today with the added help he was released a little over half way into his shift. The warrant officer in charge of the kitchen wanting to leave some unpleasant hard work for the two unruly soldiers under his care.

    The younger teen on the other hand having been judged to have learnt his lesson was sent out of the kitchen with James for him to look after and return to his parents abode.

    "What was it this time?" James asked Henry wryly.

    "Missed homework." Henry grunted back.

    "You could have probably done your homework in less time than you just spent preparing food there." James pointed out. "And you're going to be made to make up that same homework anyway." He said in exasperation.

    "Yeah, but then I wouldn't be getting free cooking lessons." Henry shot back with a grin.

    "The cooking lessons are free anyway. Hell, you can volunteer to help and get paid at the same time." James sighed. Henry's face flushing as he tried to ignore the older mans words.

    "Whatever." Henry grunted. "School sucks anyway. I'm either in a class with little kids or it's just me and the teacher alone. Can't wait to enlist and leave this behind me." He muttered.

    "If you think joining the military will get you away from military bases and fortress towns I'm not sure how to explain how wrong you are." James pointed out reasonably.

    "At least I'd be with some people my own age." Henry grumbled.

    He was, James had to admit, probably right there. Their home had a numerical designation but no actual name, though it was sometimes called Midway. Home mostly to active military and a handful of maintanence techs and their dependents they were something of a pitstop in the middle of nowhere. To the north and south were larger more powerful bases built for task forces to patrol against Nod. To their east was the main harvesting outpost, and to their west was the main logistical hub, a fortress town twice or three times the size of their own home, where (so far at least) the railways ended. Thus the nickname, they were literally midway in the middle of anything, a useful patrol point and base for some minor tiberium clearing but more often than not convoys of military vehicles or harvesters went past their home without stopping. A potential fallback position that was no longer near the front lines. The end result of that was that apart from adults most of the children in the small town trended younger, leaving Henry as the only teen, with both of his parents working on base.

    "Hey? You listening?" Henry checked.

    "Sorry?" James blinked.

    "I asked why you were hanging out here. Couldn't you like, go live in a blue zone with your pension and stuff? Why stick around here and not a city if you're not a harvester pilot?"

    A twinge of phantom pain danced up and down James cybernetic arm at the very thought. Aliens dropping from the sky, buildings being toppled, a giant tank on legs spraying corrosive acid at him, melting his arm as James fell to the ground. Plasma and lightning arcing from the skies and with colossal booms and sickly green glows erupting as the cities tiberium silo's were breached, spreading the crystal across formerly pristine territory.

    "James?! James?" A feminine voice called him. Looking up and around from his position slumped against the wall on the ground James winced as a bright light was shone into his eyes. The voice of Fiona, Henry's mother cutting through the vision.

    "Do you know where you are? Your name?" She was asking, her voice seeming far away and echoey to James as he gasped from breath.

    "J-James, fortress town, underground. Blue zone. GDI." He gasped out in a panicked burble, looking around for markers and taking deep breaths.

    "There we go. You're safe James." Doctor Talia soothed him reassuring. "Another episode?" She queried gently.

    "Nothing to worry about." James sighed catching his breath. "Gonna go home and sleep." He admitted but refusing her offer to take him to the med-bay.

    Unlike most in the base he was neither serving military, nor was he a family member of one Like Henry. Henry was right, James could live in a blue zone if he wanted, but as they'd been the first under Visitor attack, and the Red zones had swiftly become a hornets nest of aliens, it led to his current predicament. Not wanting to be in a major population centre in case the aliens ever returned and decided to remove humanity permanently. On the flip side, nothing would convince James to live too close to the red zones themselves, hostile wasteland turned into alien strongholds practically overnight. So here he was, in his own little 'goldilocks zone' not too close to major cities, but not too close to tiberium either. A small sleepy town, but one that required a major military presence. A place where James despite his lost arm could find a way to help the military still, and with the bonuses he was racking up from GDI he had the ability to save his money and buy luxuries when he wished.

    Helped by Talia and Henry he was taken to his apartment, small, cramped, but deep underground and safe.

    Perhaps not the most comfortable place either. But, James could have been much worse off. And booting up his computer and videogames as he began to relax, he was content. Some would want more, but his life was good enough for him, James thought as he relaxed in his home.
     
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    • A/N This is my first time creating an Omake Chat-style.So there might be a few errors. Just to clarify, that this is an IC chat room and opinions might be different from that of the Thread.

    Edit:. I have changed the names to original characters as request of those that write the original GDIOnline

    I did not change Dr. James Granger as he is an IC character.

    Topic: Abatement Battle: Tendrils VS Inhibitors

    TibBiteZodelo:
    Alright everyone, time for Abatement Battle Round 2!
    On the right corner, the most feared entity of H-Anime and bane of cartoon girls now unleashed on our Cancerous Vore Crystal! Brought to us by the Scrin and Seo Thoki of the Treasury, costing over a third of GDI's GDP for six months for ten to fifteen percent efficiency of harvested Tiberium and laughingstock of GDIOnline! Please welcome our new contender, Harvesting Tentacllllleeessss!

    On the left corner, the offshoot of the Tiberium Stabilizers, Dr. Granger's Red Headed Stepchild that no one wants to build because it is too needy with MARV Hubs in the Red and Yellow and Too hungry for power in the Blue. The one telling Tiberium to sit the f*** down with magic that everyone neglects for more cash. Please raise your arms for the reigning champion Tiberium Inhiiiibitoooooorrssss!!!!!!

    Everyone please get read to rumbbleee!!!!. Which is the better way to combat Tiberium for you all Tibnerds and Tibnerdettes and those who are just interested. Please start!

    WickerTib
    FIRST! I have to say that while the Inhibitors telling Tib to sit its ass down like an angry mom to a glacier of Tiberium is really hilarious when I imagine it. I would have to go with Tendrils on this one. I have seen how quickly it vacuums up an entire field in the Red and I am glad they went with this one as priority.

    Schlubbs Von Spending:
    Yeah, Tib Tentacle Straw for the win! More tib equals more goodies! This is from someone who is currently enjoying the new basketball game on TV. I gotta say most of them look a bit rusty and amateurish but this is what happens when all the top guys get killed and the Treasury waffles with starting the program in a decade.

    FaithlessMind
    While I genuinely marvel at the sheer technological wonder of both such methods. I must confess that I side with the Inhibitors on this one rather than the Tendrils. It is quite impressive to see how much it is able to affect the crystal without even physical contact.

    PhineasF:
    As an engineer attached to the Treasury and the new Bureau of Arcologies, more cash is always good for me.

    ThisZoneOfOurs:
    I dont really understand the point of arguing between this and that. Its kinda like Apples and Oranges, the Tentacles eat the tibs and the Inhibitors tell it to stay down. I kinda wish we has the inhibitors here in RZ-1 with all the storm and tower sized tib, it has been really rough. The MARVS are doing a good job but I don't know if it is that damn tower or how old the Tiberium here is but it always seems to grow faster but some magic fuckery that makes our job so much harder.

    Dr. James Granger
    While I am not partial to either methods, I do understand the Treasury's Focus on Harvesting Method and refining expansion and efficiencies over actual abatement methods like Inhibitors. The sheer need to not only fund the military to stop Nod but also the well being of our new citizens means that it would be more important to efficiently exploit Tiberium in the near future. Still, I do hope that we can get better technologies to not only harvest Tiberium but also to control it in case of future outbreaks.
    @TibBiteZodelo I believe this is was relesed during Secretary Thoki's tenure and such is not my Red Headed Step Child but I do not mind adopting it if I have the cash.

    Moonraker:
    As someone working up here on the Moon, I do hope that those Tendrils can also be used on Non-Tib Minerals, would really make our job easier in the future. So I side with Tendrils here, hopefully they can get more stuff up here than just cramped plastic bunks. Where is my Space Hotel you Treasury bastards!?

    BlueHeart
    While I am not much knowledgable too much about Tiberium. More money to help people is always a plus on my book. We were quite swamped on our end with refugees now but the housing isn't a big problem anymore. Still more medical and better food would be great for their well being.

    FaithlessMind
    @DrJamesGranger The sad necessity of war unfortunately. Still I believe that perhaps in the future such technologies will be for Humanities Benefit.
    @Blueheart It is quite heartwarming to see that some people had not given up on helping others. I do hope that the situation improves with you now that the immediate crisis is over.
    @Moonraker Now that is quite a rather interesting idea. I do hope our eggheads at the treasury might invent such a device in the near future. Please do not forget to ask for Blackjack and Hookers at your future space hotel as the saying goes

    TankieMensch:
    TENTACLE MARV! TENTACLE MARV! TENTACLE MARV! TENTACLE MARV! TENTACLE MARV! TENTACLE MARV! TENTACLE MARV!
    EVAMod: Warning, no repeating sentences in post

    SeaDragger:

    As someone working on offshore Tiberium harvesters, I do hope that these Tendrils or Tentacles whatever, really help us working on the boats. Our work is pretty dangerous since Tib is not the only enemy but also the elements. Considering that these Tendrils are lessening interaction between us and Tib. I hope they make a full underwater capable version soon

    Representative Remedios Dimaculangan (Reclamation Party)
    While I would definitely prefer Inhbitors in exchange for more Harvesting. These Tendrils seems to be quite compact and efficient compared to any previous harvesting method. Perhaps in time we can use these Tendrils and combine them with Alien Hovertech to reclaim the islands in the pacific from Tiberium like the US Island Hopping Strategy back in World War 2

    TibBiteZodelo:
    @TankieMensch Jeez someone's high in Kudzu Tea
    @DrJamesGranger Good luck on that one! :)
    @ThisZoneofOurs Damn its that Bad on your side? I heard rumors that there was more Blue than Green near that tower? Is it like that over there?
    @ReprsentativeRemediosDimaculangan Huh, never thought of that kind of application, Yeah, I can definitely see it being use to clean Archipelago's of tib, specially really mountainy ones where standard harvesting claws are likely to jam or get stuck
    @Moonraker Don't forget the Jacuzzi and Steaks

    ThisZoneofOurs:
    @TibBiteZodelo Only the newer growths for the most part. The older Glaciers and towers are still green.
    @TankieMensch One can dream sooner rather than later.
    Regarding the original topic, I don't think that neither is better and both sides have their strengths and weaknesses and can complement each other when in use. I think the correct question would be which will take priority. I am sure that there are many in the Treasury that are screaming for more inhibitors while there are more that wants us to ignore Tib Inhbitors and just suck dry what ever field is under and above ground.
    Regardless, my opinion is this. Regardless of what is the better options, defeating Tib is the ultimate objective.

    ADressUpDarling:

    Since Tiberium Harvesting is the reason why GDI is recovering faster than people say it would and since we won the last war, wouldn't the new Tendrils combined with Sonics be enough for us? Since the new Tendrils suck up even the small bits like an elephant nose or something?

    Wouldn't it be better to just ignore those Inhibitors and just get more harvested Tib and fund us?, The damage in Tokyo is getting repaired but Boyfriend is quite sad that his grandpa's shop was destroyed in the bombing, He was one of the only four Hina Doll Makers in Japan and seeing his shop got blown up gave him a heart attack and put him in the ICU for months. He's cheered up now and we are working on getting his shop funded by GDI again.

    FaithlessMind

    @ADressUpDarling: If the goal is merely exploitation then such a solution is definitely a good one. However, since defeating Tiberium is the main goal I believe that any abatement technology should not be ignored.
    However, I am sorry to hear about your Boyfriend's Grandfather. Loss of cultural treasures is sadly common in war but it is something that should not be tolerated. I do hope he and your boyfriend do not lose your passion in the arts

    @ReprsentativeRemediosDimaculangan I believe that such a goal in the future is possible, Although considering most of South East Asia is Under Bintang. A better navy is in order.

    MidasOffice

    In the next plan, I would prefer that we build up more Inhibitors first rather than expanding Red Zone Operations further. Most of our Red Zone Ops is still protected by ZOCOM which is becoming dangerously outstreched and considering that the Fourth Four Year Plan is coming, I am worried that the Treasury might force ZOCOM again into deeper Red Zone Harvesting and we may have another repeat of Italy back in 2054
    Though from the grapevine, there is a growing pressure to consider doing Vein MIning as a alternative. Still pricey and less money from what I heard but at least we aren't putting ZOCOM in unnecessary danger just to fill up treasury coffers.
    Also, we can use the time to better fortify the current Red Zone bases and increase our hold in Green Zones via Fortress Town to make it harder for Nod to attack.
    Lastly, we really need more administrators here, get the cash flowing onto the Unis and more people in the workforce. Huge Stacks of cash is useless unless we got people to direct where it is supposed to go

    BlueEternal

    It does not matter which Abatement you choose. The fact that many of you choose ignore the growing threat of the Yellows inside the Blue Zone Borders is already making me lose hope on the future of the Initiative.
    EVAmod: Offtopic

    TibBiteZodelo

    Sorry guys, I think we are getting a bit sidetracked but that is normal for a thread I guess,

    @BlueEternal Seriously!? Of all the places you whine about anti YZ Bullshit, it is on a Tiberium Thread? Did you ran out of Refugee Threads to whine and bitch about?

    @ADressUpDarling Holy shit? You're on a Tib Thread!? I'm a fan by the way.
    No offense but I never saw you as someone who cares much about this kind of stuff. Those cosplays of you are real good by the way.

    @MidasOffice. Yeah, Good point about that, we really need to prioritize more Zone Suits for our boys and girls in the Red Zones, Also, Vein Mining is closer to home than Glacier so good point on less strain to ZOCOM and Convoys.

    DeathtoEmerald

    While I am not averse to more Harvesting for the people back home, I am quite concerned that the Treasury might become less interested in fighting Tiberium in favor of just more harvesting. With alll the Harvesting we are already doing, they might just be tempted to say fuck it and ignore this wonderous Inhibitor Tech in favor of numbers go up. While it is good for treasury and the populace for numbers go up, we must not forget that at the end of the day.Tiberium will devour us if we do not stay ahead of it,
     
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    Githeggs
    2058 Situation

    The Initiative has new leadership in the form of Seo Thoki for the Treasury and Director Emilana Litvinov.

    Seo is a bit of a mad scientist, one of the first to work heavily on Granger's glacier mines, and advocates for a wide array of social and political programs. Director Litvinov is a return to GDI's old priorities. Loathing war, she seeks to return GDI's welfare spending levels to the heights of the 2040s, and with Seo on her side she may well do so by diving deep into the Red Zones and carving out new towns and cities with the materials made possible by tiberium.

    On December 1 2057, in a closely run campaign, Emiliana Litvinov won her seat as director of the Global Defense Initiative, and in a surprise turnaround, selected Arthur Hackett, her main opposition, as the Deputy Director. While the two are unlikely to make a particularly strong pairing, they are likely to be stable, with one representing each wing of the Initiative's political spectrum.
    Part of Litvinov's victory came from Bennett dropping out of the race and endorsing her. While Bennett will retain his position as Secretary of Archives and History, this is likely the end of his broader political ambitions. It is expected that Litvinov will be supporting many of his positions and goals, especially as they overlap her own.
    The most surprising result was actually for Harrison Carter, who severely underperformed expectations, primarily due to going out of his way to reject the support of the Initiative First party, and went so far as to publicly reject the endorsements of the few who did offer their support. Beyond that, he published multiple direct policy positions that would offer broader support to Yellow Zone populations, including direct evacuation plans that gave the Terminus Cities the same evacuation priorities as Blue Zone assets


    AzureBlade
    Well, that's better than I was worried things would end up. They don't seem likely to renege on our existing arrangement, though Hackett being on board scares the hell out of me; maybe we can finally get some proper abatement going. It'd be nice to push the Red all the way off the peninsula.


    OSHA_Inspector
    … Whyever would we do that?
    If the 2050's have shown us one thing it's that GDI is weak and severely underfunding its military. What we should do is prepare for a major worldwide offensive in a couple of years. Prepare the new weapon systems, India is doing some wonderful stuff with their cyborgs, and there is a number of promising answers to GDI's ablative plating nonsense.
    We may be able to knock GDI on its arse again if we do this right, and leave them permanently unable to do much.


    Sea_Snek
    Their navy is underfunded at least. Although the new cruisers are pretty badass individually, they don't have enough of them. But I dunno if you really want to poke them that hard. Remember what happened after Italy.


    AzureBlade
    #OSHA_Inspector …You do recall that's been tried already, right? And it's failed, every time?


    OSHA_Inspector
    … You realize that that was single factions trying to batter at GDI? Of course that didn't go so well, GDI can just reinforce from across the world. We can't do that so of course GDI hit back hard. That's why we need to hit GDI together. Make them engage in too many theaters to be able to concentrate force.


    Vlad_The_Impala
    I think we could focus on building up but letting them over-extend again with all the red zone hardware and mines. If they draw enough of their economy from regions we can easily scissor off then we can just…let them feed and grow fat on that. Red zone raiding isn't the most profitable action anyways, but if we time it right we might trigger a broader economic collapse.


    Imperial_Assertion
    (Gideon)
    We can't beat GDI alone, but each attack we have made has pushed them back and made them struggle. If we put in coordinated effort, that should be enough to make things fall in our favor.


    OSHA_Inspector
    #Vlad_The_Impala
    Well, we need to build up first, and if Italy was a hint, it's likely GDI is going to delve deep into the RZs for money for the next few years at minimum. By the time they're ready to pivot towards Litvinov's agenda and start spending the bounty from those costly Red Zone operations we'll be right where we need to be to cut them off.
    And I don't think they'll spend money on Red Zone military stuff. They'll think it's all good.
    #Imperial_Assertion
    Exactly.

    SnowstormBlitz
    (Yao)
    That's good. No one is going to attack with those two. We can continue to build up and maybe it will be peaceful. Fighting GDI hasn't worked out for us anyway


    Smartian
    I'm a big fan of letting GDI the hell alone, yeah. It's been what, 9 years since the last dustup, IC? I don't think Nod's ready yet. Maybe another full Plan from now, if we get those Gana better sorted out.


    FiveThirtyTwo
    Guys, guys, what the fuck!? We just got GDI to front the bill for our Holy place and you want to kick off another war? Tiberium is killing us and none of you are helping us. Holding Mecca gives us legitimacy to split GDI's minority's away from them. Not that we need much help with Initiative first, but can you just give us time? GDI is coming from a very pro-west centric atheist/christianity Bent and there's plenty of room to radicalise muslims and make it so they suffer uprisings, but right now that requires Mecca not being turned into a single slab of green crystal.


    CASstan
    Look, we can do both. We have been rolling pretty decent on R and D and on pushing out some of the new stuff. And some of the ideas are pretty damn nuts.


    StormyMist
    #Osha_Inspector
    We have all attacked Together on several occasions with Kane. Note the difference. With Kane. And we still lost. And you want to do this without him. You are legit crazy.


    WarCrimeTime
    Lol, we're about to attack and GDI goes and elects a weakling. Looks like this will be even easier than we thought. Goodbye Chicago, time to die. I wonder how many people they stuck in there


    FiveThirtyTwo
    I dunno about you guys, but I'd like to, you know, be that voice standing up for the oppressed, stopping people from dying of starvation, thirst and tib poisoning. But since Y'all are busy slamming the Gacha's for Das Wunderweapons we're kind of losing the middle east and the bonuses the Holy Land brings.


    Firestorm_4.0
    Pff the GDI is a rotten edifice ready to collapse at any moment all it needs is one push for it to all fall apart. We must attack soon before they are able to recover and lure people into their evil empire.


    FiveThirtyTwo
    #Firestorm_4.0 And then we'll be home by Christmas right? /s


    WarCrimeTime
    #Firestorm_4.0
    Yup. They've put on a strong front so far but the only reason they'd elect a leader that doesn't want to fight us is that they know they can't


    Githeggs
    Right, so that looks like consensus for war soon. I want people to vote on the go date.
    [ ] Immediately
    [ ] In One Year
    [ ] In Two Years
    [ ] In Three Years
    [ ] In Four Years


    Firestorm_4.0
    #FiveThirtyTwo
    Yes in fact I think if we launch a coordinated assault across the world we will be able to pull it off especially with the pitiful state of their navy. Their territories cut off from each other they will soon die and fall apart for the sea is the lifeblood of the gdi without it they die. Every single previous attack like this has succeeded, no reason that this one won't be just as devastating.


    WonderWaffles
    Guys, don't start a war just yet, I'm confident with another Plan and a half, I'll have my anti-orbital Obelisk of Annhilation up and running.
    (edit)…and, too late. Great, I'm just going to get my research bases smashed again. I suppose I can get some decent fortifications ready in 4 years.
    [x] In Four Years


    Firestorm_4.0
    [X] Immediately


    WarCrimeTime
    Guys, don't go immediately. We need to plan our Masterstrokes first. I have a couple of ideas for ours ;)
    [X] In Three Years


    OSHA_Inspector
    #Githeggs
    Question.
    Should I read the options as
    'Start right now'
    'Start 2059'
    'Start 2060'
    'Start 2061'
    'Start 2062'?


    Sea_Snek
    Hm. a couple years would give a decent amount of time to prep.
    [X] In Two Years
    But 3 wyoud be fine, too. More torpedoes.
    [X] In Three Years.


    Snowstormblitz
    (Yao)
    If you want to be crazy that's fine but I want no part in this madness. Good luck and try not to die too hard.


    Githeggs
    #OSHA_Inspector
    Yes, that is correct.


    FiveThirtyTwo
    I'm with fucking Snow. All you maniacs are forgetting how wars 1,2 and 3 went. And in point of fact there's plenty of places where you're still LOSING. This is supposed to be raiding, what we're good at, and GDI has recovered enough to have marvs rolling over bases in south america.


    WarCrimeTime
    #FiveThirtyTwo So we don't attack the Marv hubs directly. They can't be everywhere and when we push back GDI's borders they'll be left out in the middle of nowhere without any resupply. I doubt they'll last that long then, those things have got to be maintenance hogs. Then when they're without their fancy toys we get to show them what Peace through Power means. It means peace without them.


    OSHA_Inspector
    #FiveThirtyTwo
    I'm quite sure you can make a good argument that it's GDI's fault Mecca got eaten by tiberium. It's not as if GDI's any good at convincing its own people. And the Caravanserai have been able stewards so far.
    And besides, South America shouldn't have been such chumps. We had a perfect opportunity with the mess that was the Yellow Zone MARV hub, and they squandered it.

    [X] In Two Years
    [X] In Three Years
    [X] In Four Years


    SneakysneakyknifetheBeaky
    Give us a bit of time to teach the Caravan guys what side they should be on, and why you don't join with the enemy. Then it'll be time to shoot down a few eagles
    [X] In Three Years


    FiveThirtyTwo
    Guys, guys, decades between war 1 and 2, decades between 2 and 3. KW shows some *minor* skirmishing and special ops basically directly at Kanes Command. But you want to go toe to toe to GDI. That's what favours them. Hiding in the shadows and kidnapping scientists to help Kanes superweapons is what we need to do. I've argued we need to slow down the raiding.
    Nevermind GDI. Some of us are losing the war to Tiberium.
    Time and time again. Post Cabal, Alliance with GDI to fight the aliens and you maniacs nuke GDI while we're getting murdered by literal aliens.


    FlyingGoblin
    Go go go GOGOGO! I'mma splash some birdies!
    [x]Immediately


    Ganaman
    [X] In three years
    Right now, a lot of the Research is done, development is ongoing, but we need a bit of time before we start killing birdies in job lots. The gana are going to be a gamechanger, and we will need all of them we can get.


    Prophetsspeaker
    I'll need a bit of time to get everyone ready to go, factories are still tooling up, but it's definitely time to knock some eagles down to Earth.
    [X] In Three Years


    Firestorm_4.0
    #FiveThirtyTwo
    Tiberium is all what NOD about we are not at war with it and that kind of attitude toward it will have us never achieve synthesis with it


    FiveThirtyTwo
    Dammit where's the "In 20 years option?" 4 Years is far too short if we're doing this at all.

    ObviousInOpsPlant(Not actually inops)
    I'm going to need some time to spread my disinformation properly - 3 or 4 years would be best.
    [X] In Three Years
    [X] In Four Years


    TheBobbiestBob
    Right, i figure with a peacenik in charge GDI's military is gonna keep getting weaker, especially if they want to shunt a bunch of them into the red zones. Meanwhile we have some rather fun things for their air force to try to deal with. I'd wish them luck but nah, fuck 'em
    [X] In Three Years
    (Changed vote to remove the 4 year one on further thought)


    OSHA_Inspector
    Say… anybody know the progress with the Gana? With everybody scrapping the cyborg plans after Kane's Wrath we need a replacement for a solution to our infantry issues, and proliferating Gana tech would go a long way towards helping us deal with the fact that we can't rely on masses of militia to bulk out our militaries anymore.
    Just toss shit tons of cybered up animals at GDI's lines. They'll love it.


    Sea_Snek
    #OSHA_Inspector I'm seeing about getting some of the squiddies, those critters are nifty. Not really sure what the timeline on growing them in bulk is, though.


    WarCrimeTime
    I still want to do the new scorpion development at some point with the grabby claws. See if our guys can grab some Zone Raiders for, heh, 'recruitment'


    Smartian
    [X] In Four Years

    This is still a bad idea.

    Vlad_the_Impala
    [X] In Two Years
    We need to consider GDI's frankly baffling economic cycles! For the next year or so, they're gonna be taking all their development cash away from their central economic development agency, so we shouldn't see any major military projects in that time while they scramble to build up their economy more. Two years does let them build some minor projects, but it also means they'll have stretched their economy to what we might call 'maximum overreach'. #Sea_Snek, can't you put together some kind of raiding program to send their transport capacity into sudden paralysis?


    HisDarkGrasp
    #Smartian So sorry that you can't manage getting ready to do what we're meant to be ready for. T.T
    [X] In Three Years


    Vlad the Impala
    #HisDarkGrasp Please move that vote up, three years is too long. We'll get distracted and off task, and you let GDI have way too much breathing room to get up to steam. With three years prep time, they might roll out some extreme bullshit and have it ready to meet us. Year 3 of their plans is when they have enough money to dethrone god and their military spending will spike.
    #FiveThirtyTwo, I respect you and your position but we can't wait 40 years for this. You're gonna lose Mecca, that's just…facts now. We're gonna lose the entire earth in 30-40 years, or have you not been following the mutation-projections on the chat?

    Smartian
    #HisDarkGrasp so sorry that you feel the need to be an ass to people on the same team as you, I just want more time to prep!


    HisDarkGrasp
    That's exactly why I chose 3 years - it's the best balance between being ready and not giving too much time for GDI to fix their issues if they actually get a clue.


    TechCrunch
    [X] In Five Years

    I know there isn't a 5 year option, But we need the time for Technology and Infa crunch to approach GDI own if we are ever going to Cripple them. MARV hub alone poses too Much of a resource drain and Slugfest that will slow us from Striking their Blue zone Industrial heart, not to mention all the fortress town. If we can't blitz them in 2-3 turns the birb will Buried us under their Yellow tinted Steel. We can set them back by a chunk yes, but without 5 year spooling time we can't really cripple them, Like most would've wanted. Also think of all the technology integration we could do in 5 year!!!


    KaneFan!!:)
    [X] In Two Years
    I think that two years would be good for us as the GDI enonomy will be streched to the max and wo will be able to get some good tech to our followers. But i will also do three years [X] In Three Years


    TheBobbiestBob
    Look, I can guarantee GDI won't be expecting what we're gonna have ready. We can get some done in 3 years, more in 4 but that leads to a greater risk of GDI finding a weird way of countering them. Hell, maybe nukes, idk. I'm now thinking it's 3 years that hits the sweet spot between us preparing and GDI pulling out a countermeasure.

    WarCrimeTime
    I can't wait to see what Kane's response will be, coming out of his tower and finding out we've just hammered GDI to the point where their commanders are sat crying in their bunkers. Hell, I know Canon involved him teaming up with them but I'm pretty sure we can make it so we take out GDI ourselves and then build the TCN for him. Pretty sure the India lot are working on something about that. Goats eating tib or something?


    Firestorm_4.0
    He will be overjoyed by what we have done which will result in him giving us a load of useful tech as a reward. We will do amazing too so much he might get started on some major projects that require more industrial power. I will also note whenever kane returns we go to war with the GDI the sooner we go to war and crush them, the more headpats we get!


    SneakysneakyknifetheBeaky
    #Firestorm_4.0 I wonder if we can repeat the whole Nuke the entire GDI leadership in orbit thing. Leave them leaderless and panicking, send the shadow teams to cause even more confusion. Then hammer GDI on all fronts, nuke their cities, nuke the Caravan lot for siding with GDI, and once they're good and gone we can see which of us did the best and gets to lead. At Kane's right hand of course


    Firestorm_4.0
    If Krukov project goes well I think we got a good shot at that


    WonderWaffles
    #SneakysneakyknifetheBeaky I've been working on something that should be able to do that, but there's no way it would be ready in time, even if we go for 4 years. So, now I have to pivot away from the research and teching up I was planning on, because some people can't keep their warboner in their pants.


    Firestorm_4
    #WonderWaffles
    We are pursuing the optimal strategy to free the world from the GDI, get headpats, get cool goodies and secure NOD victory over the GDI. We do not have a warboner, we just don't have a research boner.


    TheBobbiestBob
    #Firestorm_4.0 Spoilers, we don't want to ruin the surprise for people ;)
    #WonderWaffles The Perfect is the enemy of the Good, remember that


    VerySoberElf
    [X] Immediately
    [X] In One Year

    Guys, if we're going to hit them, we need to hit them right away. We have word from GM that GDI is spending a shitton on their military. Like, conquer the world levels of spending. If we dawdle, they're going to bulk up enough to absorb our sneak attack and fucking pound us a la 3rd Tiberium War.


    Firestorm_4.0
    Echoing what #VerySoberElf said every day we don't attack the GDI is a day they get stronger and stronger we need to attack yesterday!


    WarCrimeTime
    #VerySoberElf #Firestorm_4.0 Except they've just voted for an anti war hippie of a director who's gonna cut the funding to the military so she can hand out toys to orphans or some shit like that.


    Firestorm_4.0
    #WarCrimeTime I don't know the treasury is now one of the supreme powers of the GDI and they have been obsessed with the military and it does not show signs of stopping.


    WarCrimeTime
    #Firestorm_4.0 Eh, they were doing it while Granger was telling them to (The director one not the treasury one). Before then they basically only funded the bare minimum and focused almost entirely on the Tib.


    Firestorm_4.0
    #WarCrimeTime nah we touched their precious tib glacier mine that, what got them so riled up.


    WarCrimeTime
    #Firestorm 4.0 They've probably gotten over that by now, it's been years. Besides, the director gives the orders and they're gonna be getting too much to fund in things like aid (that we can yoink) and space and shit like that


    Firestorm_4.0
    #WarCrimeTime you underestimate the power of spite


    WarCrimeTime
    #Firestorm_4.0 Maybe, but come on. They're not us :p


    Firestorm_4.0
    #WarCrimeTime true they don't understand the power of spite :p


    TheBobbiestBob
    They should have listened to Sidious
    "Let the hate flow through you"


    WonderWaffles
    #Firestorm_4.0 Yeah, "optimal strategy". Riiiiight. Also, you're saying GDI can do better than we can with half the population? Insert heresy.jpg


    SneakysneakyknifetheBeaky
    Yeah, last time someone thought GDI could do better than us their son suffered a little 'accident' at their wedding. Such a shame, apparently they were a pretty good heir before they were spread all over the highway with their lovely wife


    Firestorm_4.0
    We needed to send a message
    #WonderWaffles GDI is a dangerous menace who we have had to use all our resources to contain them before, it be wise to not underestimate them


    Snowstormblitz
    (Yao)
    Imagine thinking that you can do what Kane himself could not. The audacity astounds me. Is this another Italy incident? I feel like it's Italy again. Granger basically has given them an economy to go to war. We can't fight them. Either wait for Kane or keep shit peaceful. I honestly just feel for the Caravanserais. They have kept the peace so well


    Nod_Forever
    #Snowstormblitz Jesus the GDI ain't god or anything. They aren't invincible, this is just fear mongering that sabotages us from within by acting like we will always lose to almighty GDI.


    SneakysneakyknifetheBeaky
    #Snowstormblitz 'Do what Kane himself could not' Pah, Kane had a plan he followed and GDI got weaker and weaker. This is all part of His plan. Remember, if you sit out of this like a coward we'll be coming for you next. As for the Caravan lot, their 'keeping the peace' looks a lot like treason from where I'm sat. We don't work with GDI, they're evil. We wipe them and their sympathisers from the world in order to make a better one under Kane. That's what Peace through Power means.


    Nod_Forever
    We can't expect Kane to do all the work too


    Snowstormblitz
    #Nod_Forever
    You are assuming fear mongering but I'd like to point out that as much as we are an opaque wall to them. They are to us as well. They have constantly purged mine and your operatives on a monthly basis. We know that they have invested quite a lot into the military and you are talking about waging a 5 front war against the unholy child of the worlds strongest governments without Kane. How many times does Gideon have to be spanked for us to understand that it's not the same beast.
    #SneakysneakyknifetheBeaky
    Don't talk rhetoric to me. I was there when it was written. The GDI has gotten weaker and would have continued to do so but someone (Kovacs curse her fucking name) gave them the miracle drug to make a crazy economy. As for the threat? Come at me. I have started it here and I will go down swinging taking every fucker who comes with me to the afterlife. Also traitors? Because they prioritize their holy spaces? Kane does not ask us to choose one god over the other. Kane would be on their side for protecting their holy spaces and their futures rather than throwing their cultures away.


    TheBobbiestBob
    #Snowstormblitz
    A 5 front war that GDI won't see coming. We have the advantage of knowing exactly where and when we're striking, we can plan for the various problems that come with this and prepare for them. GDI will be caught flat footed having not seen it coming. As for Gideon getting spanked, well that's Gideon lol. More seriously we're not gonna sit on our hands for the next few years, that's years of prep for a war that GDI doesn't get because they're too focused on shit like 'high quality housing' and 'food quality'.
    The Caravanaserai aren't traitors because they want to protect their holy spaces, that's fair enough. Teaming up with GDI to do so however? I mean, I think the Mehretu lot went too far but you gotta admit that was pretty sus.


    Snowstormblitz
    #TheBobbiestBob
    Mehretu literally murdered the heir they spend a better chunk of the game creating. I remember the first time he showed up. He was fucking perfect for that region. And then they killed him as a fucking message. Also who else were they going to ask for help to protect their holy spaces? We would gladly put a bomb in the Mecca just to fuck with them. In fact I'm pretty sure someone actually suggested that


    SneakysneakyknifetheBeaky
    #Snowstormblitz Yes we did and it was fucking hilarious
    The message needed sending that you don't side with GDI, and the message had to hurt. The next time they try and pull something like that we're not gonna be as restrained.
    As for putting a bomb in the Mecca just to fuck with them? I mean, if they'd not sided with GDI to build it there'd be no need for a bomb or anything like that. Let's face it, the Mecca they have now is tainted, maybe it needs a tib bomb or something similar next time they side with GDI. For now though we'll leave them be as long as they remember their place. They're supposed to be Nod, not simpering traitors feeding from GDI's scraps.


    Snowstormblitz
    #SneakysneakyknifetheBeaky
    All you have done is create division where it wasn't not needed. We have worked alongside with the GDI in the past. When the Scrin fell from the sky and invaders from the stars came we fought them side by side…with a little backstabbing admittedly. For the greater good we have always joined hands with the GDI. Many of us accept food from the GDI because we can't grow it in our territory(well except maybe India but who knows what the fuck is up with that). Mecca would have been another such co-operation. For the greater good.


    TheBobbiestBob
    #Snowstormblitz I mean, a giant alien invasion trying to wipe us out is kinda a special circumstance. As for accepting food, if GDI wants to keep helping us build up our strength to kill them with then that's their mistake to make. Mecca was different, it was inviting GDI into their most sacred places and then not kicking them out afterwards but having them reside there as guests. I understand why they did it but it does look dodgy.


    Puff-the-Dragon
    [X] In Three Years
    Time enough to finish the air fleet, then we can advance on Murmansk. Secure a corridor there, and we can relieve Reynaldo.
    I can't wait to show 'em the real meaning of 'heavy metal.'


    Snowstormblitz
    I will say one last thing on this matter. I hope that with all these plan that you don't choke on your ambitions. On second thought no. I hope you all have interesting times during your campaign. As for the Caravanserais, you have my sorrow. I know it was a lot of work put into that boy of yours.


    SneakysneakyknifetheBeaky
    A lot of work went into that heir. Finding the schedule, picking the explosive device, building the fuse, bribing the maintenance guy, etc.
    Oh, and the cleanup. I imagine scraping the pieces of him up took a lot of work too :)


    Sea_Snek
    #SneakysneakyknifetheBeaky Wow. I know that there's a certain amount of infighting and competition expected… but you might just find a mutated candiru fish in your toilet, if you keep gloating that way. Not me, that's not my style, but… that's a bit much.


    Nod_Forever
    Fuck it calling in a #mod to get this insanity to stop


    OSHA_Inspector
    There were ways to send a message to the Caravanserai that didn't require killing the heir. Nor was it required to kill him in the way it was done, at the time it was done. The South Africa group's take over of West and North Africa does not excuse the absolute mess they've made in the Middle East.
    That place has historically been a very contentious place, and this didn't help. As I said before, if they wanted to make the Caravanserai group stop courting GDI, hitting GDI operations, personnel and contacts would've been far more effective.


    AzureBlade
    These things have a way of coming back around. Don't worry, I'm sure we'll find something new to work with.


    YAAARRRRR!
    Sorry, was afk. War, hmmm? Sounds fun.
    [X] In Three Years
    You'll see why.

    Githeggs
    Dudes, please, I go away for a weekend, and you start resorting to personal attacks. This is supposed to be fun. Not breaking out the knives over every little thing.
     
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