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I mean, I honestly can't see the Grey College losing here. Their base quite literally doesn't exist, can open new entrances in weird places to resupply, and is ridiculously hard to even detect (let alone access).
You try besieging a group that you can't even find, and which can literally Teleport supplies in if you somehow counter their whole "invisible flying agents" thing.

I also can't see the Grey College actually winning a fight against the entire Empire, but that's not really the point 😓

Other colleges seem to be less well-defended than the GC (if only because they have a physical location that can be shelled back to the stone age) but they often have whole traditions focused around hiding out in the wilderness + secondary campuses. They'd suffer, but I'd expect several of them to survive in some form.

And of course right now they could probably emigrate to K8P, because the Greys have been doing some sword-Diplomacy ;)
 
The Amber College could probably survive for a very long time. They have no definite base of operation and their entire shtick is surviving by themselves in the wilderness. They could hide and wage a guerilla war in Empire forces and hardly ever get caught. The more powerful wizards would especially cause problems with Kadon: changing into a dragon, attacking vulnerable position then flee and change back into human.
 
I mean, I honestly can't see the Grey College losing here. Their base quite literally doesn't exist, can open new entrances in weird places to resupply, and is ridiculously hard to even detect (let alone access).
You try besieging a group that you can't even find, and which can literally Teleport supplies in if you somehow counter their whole "invisible flying agents" thing.

I also can't see the Grey College actually winning a fight against the entire Empire, but that's not really the point 😓

Other colleges seem to be less well-defended than the GC (if only because they have a physical location that can be shelled back to the stone age) but they often have whole traditions focused around hiding out in the wilderness + secondary campuses. They'd suffer, but I'd expect several of them to survive in some form.

And of course right now they could probably emigrate to K8P, because the Greys have been doing some sword-Diplomacy ;)

I am almost sure all of them would survive somehow. The hedgewise have managed to survive for literal millennia of everyone trying to burn them all at the stake, mostly because they serve a function in rural communities, one the local priests of Sigmar cannot match no matter how much they huff and they puff.
 
IIRC only three of the colleges in quest canon were actually under siege. The rest they couldn't figure out how to access, or in the case of the Grey couldn't even figure out where the entrance was, or in the case of the Amber went "...I'm not going first" the entire 15 years.
 
IIRC only three of the colleges in quest canon were actually under siege. The rest they couldn't figure out how to access, or in the case of the Grey couldn't even figure out where the entrance was, or in the case of the Amber went "...I'm not going first" the entire 15 years.
The Green, Gold and Amethyst?
 
Now, i am not saying that we should forge magic rings to hand out to elector counts, that are connected to another magic ring we keep for ourselves.
But i am hinting at it quite heavily. :V
Eru Illuvatar? *cocks pistol* You mean Sigmar, right mortal? Right, Mortal?
 
I mean I don't even know why people want us to be sauron at this point. We're one set of fireworks away from being Gandalf.

Edit: In hindsight, Perhaps Drakenhof was our fireworks.
 
The Green, Gold and Amethyst?
It was mentioned back in the chapter where Johann first tried to gild his eyeballs:

The Gold College is not just the wealthiest of the Colleges of Magic, but one of the wealthiest organizations in the entire Old World. The structure of the College itself is not hidden in any way, nestled into the corner of the city walls and the Reik for all to visit, or at least those wealthy enough to afford the products of modern alchemy, from pigments and dyes to medicines and poisons to magical elixirs. It might seem strange that the exterior of such a wealthy organization is so plain, boxy, and utilitarian. But as Altdorf learned during the fifteen-year siege of the Colleges during the reign of Deieter IV, the College being built beside and partially upon the Reik was not just to turn waterwheels and cool forges, as the low-lying streets that surround it were flooded by hidden sluices, turning the College into a formidable fortified position.

Don't know about the other ones though.
 
IIRC only three of the colleges in quest canon were actually under siege. The rest they couldn't figure out how to access, or in the case of the Grey couldn't even figure out where the entrance was, or in the case of the Amber went "...I'm not going first" the entire 15 years.
The Green, Gold and Amethyst?
Citation!
Might as well ask this. What did the 'siege of the colleges' exactly entail? As in a literal siege where most of the wizards had to stay locked up in their colleges? And everyone else had to go to ground?
For the Gold, Jade, and Bright Colleges, yes. The Light, Grey, Amethyst, and Celestial Colleges aren't very accessible to mundane visitors, and if any Templars started trying to poke around the Amber Hills they probably had a bad time of it.
 
IIRC he also does a thing aimed at legalising mutants, realising that they're just being dicks and driving most of them into criminality at best, chaos/other things at worst. Big back lash obviously, but he sticks to his guns.

He's a busy bee social reformer Franz and one of the things I do like compared to 40K is that WHF is a setting where positive social change is possible.
You remember correctly, but we don't actually know what the motive was behind the law. Maybe it was to stop driving mutants into crime and heresy, or maybe it was some other reason. It's supposed to be revealed in the upcoming The Empire in Flames, but that's still two Enemy Within books away.
 
You remember correctly, but we don't actually know what the motive was behind the law. Maybe it was to stop driving mutants into crime and heresy, or maybe it was some other reason. It's supposed to be revealed in the upcoming The Empire in Flames, but that's still two Enemy Within books away.
I'd expect they were remembering the original Enemy Within campaign, not the reboot.
 
Interestingly, in the canonical timeline Karl Franz tried to make the Supreme Patriarch an Elector.
Who has the right to do such things by the way? How did that Fat Emperor manage to give an Elector position to the Moot?
I'm not as sure about a good emperor: this is a setting that actually does have to deal with evil cults were the only outward clue is mutations.
Two Chaos Gods would be wholly inadequate at manipulating anything like a parliament. One Chaos God could only really do a supercharged version of bribery and corruption. Only Tzeentch would have a chance of more serious shenanigans and if you don't give the Commons too much power then that danger shouldn't be to great.

On the other hand, I am currently listening about the French revolution on the "Revolutions" podcast and ho boy was that a mess. Let's just say that if an Emperor says that everyone should freely and without censorship discuss the problems they have and then elect representatives to some kind of legislative body there's a good chance that all four aspects of Ranald are going to have such a field day that you might mistake him for a Chaos God.
It's because that would have too much votes to the Emperor and/or Reikland. I think it also limits the amount of politicking they can do, and the risk they take sides. To paraphrase WH40K speaking of the Space Marines, « they serve the Empire, they do not rule it ».
Hmm. Who else could be given an Elector seat to balance that out? A worldly one would require conquest and I remember that the Taalites and Rhyans didn't want one. Is the same true for Morrites and Verenans? I guess the Ulricans could get a second one? Maybe Nordland related as to not just give the Ar-Ulric two votes?

Are we... are we becoming Sauron? We may actually be getting closer and closer to being Sauron as time goes on, actually.
We should make some trinkets for our friends. Nine of them should have enchantments to summon Shadow Horses and then we can give those to various Human knights and lords. Seven we create with Johann that give his Windsight ability even to Dwarves. Three unique ones for our friends in Laurelorn that we hire Elementalists for, so that they provide something even Teclis can't. Just Fire, Air and Water though. Earth is more of a Dwarf thing. And one we make just for us. On that one we start with invisibility and then layer more and more enchantments on it over time.
 
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Think I missed it on my first time through, why is one of Mathildes titles "the silver savage"? Also, could anyone tell me the translation for the khazalid titles?
 
Who has the right to do such things by the way? How did that Fat Emperor manage to give an Elector position to the Moot?
Funnily enough, only the Emperor seems to be able to propose new candidates for having a vote in the Elector's Meets. Given that Karl's attempt to make the Supreme Patriarch have a vote failed, it probably got changed after the days of Ludwig the Fat, where the Emperor could seemingly just do it by their own authority without anyone being able to gainsay them.

Hell, the whole (inglorious) reason why the Cult of Sigmar even has their votes is because the Grand Theogonist of the time lavished so many fine dinners onto Ludwig that he died from heart failure.
 
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Think I missed it on my first time through, why is one of Mathildes titles "the silver savage"? Also, could anyone tell me the translation for the khazalid titles?
"the silver savage" is what Mathilde means in Eltharin

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He looks up in surprise, and a smile spreads across his face as he leaps effortlessly to his feet. "The silver savage from Sylvania!" You almost take offence to that, before realizing that it's what Ma-thil would translate closest to in Eltharin. "What offer brings you to this swamp village? One from your Emperor?"
 
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Think I missed it on my first time through, why is one of Mathildes titles "the silver savage"? Also, could anyone tell me the translation for the khazalid titles?

Asarnil called her Ma-thil, which in Eltharin means "silver savage". Since we're a skilled swordswoman from the Queen of the Silver Depths (aka Karak Eight Peaks), Mathilde accepted the moniker.

"Dawongr" means "dwarf friend", "Azrildrekked" means "the one that ended the silver journey" and can be interpreted as "the one who reclaimed Karak Eight Peaks", and "Dawizhufokri" means "dwarf torrent crafter" and is a reference to the time that Mathilde "crafted a torrent of living dwarves" by rescuing the Okral, while also calling her a "dwarf-like wizard", since "torrent crafter" is the polite dwarven term for a wizard.
 
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Think I missed it on my first time through, why is one of Mathildes titles "the silver savage"? Also, could anyone tell me the translation for the khazalid titles?

The Silver Savage comes from when we recruited Asarnil for the KD Expedition:
He looks up in surprise, and a smile spreads across his face as he leaps effortlessly to his feet. "The silver savage from Sylvania!" You almost take offence to that, before realizing that it's what Ma-thil would translate closest to in Eltharin. "What offer brings you to this swamp village? One from your Emperor?"

Azrildrekked:
It's complex. Azrildrekked is, if I'm not forgetting my Khazalid is one-who-completed-silvery-journey. Azril is the mst tricky part of the title, as it means silvery metal (possibl weapon metal), yet not silver. It was speculated to be an older term fro Gromril. And in this context it can also stand for Vala-Azril-Ungol, the ancient name of k8p. So, I'd boil it down to "one who ended Karak Eight Peaks jounrey". Can either be taken as a varient of crusader title, or, my favorite, "one who ended the wandering of Karak Eight Peaks people".

Dawizhufokri: Combine Dawi, meaning dwarf, and zhufokri, meaning 'torrent-crafter' or wizard.
But, my nephew, for tonight's work I think she deserves to be called Dawizhufokri, for she has crafted for us a torrent of living dwarves."
Let's conjugate 'ok':

Ok - cunning or skilfull
Okri - Craftsman
Okrak - the craft itself
Okrul - craftsmanship
Okral - Group of craftsman, Guild (informal)
Okralaz - Guild (formal, usually only applied to respected Dwarven Guilds)
Okrali - Guild member in good standing
Okrit - Apprentice
Okreni - Journeyman
Okrari - Master ('Okri' is often used instead, 'Okrari' is only needed when specifically referring to the rank)
Dalokri - Grandmaster (informal)
Dalokruli - Grandmaster (formal)
Dalokrali - Grandmaster in good standing with a guild
Dalokraki - Grandmaster of exceptional skill
Dalokralaki - Foremost Grandmaster in a specific guild
Dalokralazi - Leader of a specific guild
Dalokraz - something very well-made
Dalokrulaz - something made by a Grandmaster
Dalokrulakaz - greatest pinnacle of a particular craft in the current era
Dalokralakaz - most impressive work created by a specific guild in the current era
Dalokrulakaz-ha - greatest pinnacle of a particular craft era, usually reserved for the works of the Ancestor Gods
Dalokrulakazi-ha - greatest ever craftsman of their type, usually reserved for the Ancestor Gods.

Words to specify the specific craft go before the 'ok'. Eg: Grungokri = miner, wutokri = carpenter, zhufokri = Wizard, mhornzhufokri = Grey Wizard.

Dalmhornzhufokralaki = Foremost Grey Wizard Lord of their Guild, applied to Mathilde due to a lack of understanding of the internal structure of the Colleges and how the K8P Wizards fit into them.
 
Who has the right to do such things by the way? How did that Fat Emperor manage to give an Elector position to the Moot?
I think there might have been an element of "all the other provinces were on board with screwing with Stirland and Averland".

That or, like, lots of bribery. The Empire has had a long, storied history of political corruption, and this period was the corruption-est.
 
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