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Proportional Representation single transferable vote (PR-STV) is great.

As long as you have a voting group smaller than 9-10 million.

so I think a quest will be fine.
I don't think STV is that good if you have a single, and not multiple, winners. As in, not good at all.
 
Wait a minute Markgraf had 264 and Waystone 263 before - now theyre both at 262. People better not be manipulating to keep the top two even. -_-
 
Wait a minute Markgraf had 264 and Waystone 263 before - now theyre both at 262. People better not be manipulating to keep the top two even. -_-
I think that's what's going on. I'm checking the vote constantly because I've been confused.

Everytime Edgelord edges ahead, Waystone catches up (or Edgelord falls back).

The same when Waystone moves ahead.

They were both at 264 now they're both at 262.
 
This isn't convincing me to vote Waystones more at all. It is in fact the exact reason I want to put it off because it is more of an endgame thing.
Now, this isn't specifically aimed at you, but I've seen things like this said a number of times and I wanted to respond and remind us all that there is no 'endgame,' except Mathilde's death or BoneyM stopping writing the quest, we as the voters and readers are not playing through a preset trough of content in an MMO or RPG made by some AAA Studio, we are guiding a character who grows by learning new things and gaining new skills and putting in the hard work and time to hone old ones. If we 'finish' the Waystone project that's not the end of the quest, Mathilde simply moves on to the next thing she wants to tackle; bigger or smaller in scope, whatever catches our fancy.
 
Sigh, its kind of melancholic that my favourite vote got dunked on the first session, and my second favourite is consistently fourth in the second. I won't get salty about it, I still stand by what I said , this quest will be good whatever wins, its just a lil depressing

Irony is, despite my liking of Ranald, my two fav votes are not even thus because of Ranald, I truly find them the most interesting paths anyway, it just happened they coincided with Ranald's preferences.
 
If we 'finish' the Waystone project that's not the end of the quest, Mathilde simply moves on to the next thing she wants to tackle; bigger or smaller in scope, whatever catches our fancy.
That's my point though. We could spend a lifetime on Waystones and not finish it. That's why I want to do other stuff first.
 
You honestly expect us to have any freetime time whatsoever?

Roswita is expecting us to effectively take over her campaign. This position is all governing all the time. This is us running a campaign of military occupation and nationbuidling. It would be irresponsible in the extreme to take any time for pie-in-the-sky personal projects.
Ah yes a spell to improve our own battle field performance, help Grey wizards and kill vampires, a mere personal project.

Roswita is essentially giving us the order to do what ever it takes for as long as it takes.
If it takes new spells she'll have zero issue with us developing them and improving our skills
 
Wait a minute Markgraf had 264 and Waystone 263 before - now theyre both at 262. People better not be manipulating to keep the top two even. -_-
the difference between the votes is at most 5-6 votes, 550+ voters, what percentage of people do you think are trolls? even at a generous 1% they can easily keep the vote tied.
 
Wait a minute Markgraf had 264 and Waystone 263 before - now theyre both at 262. People better not be manipulating to keep the top two even. -_-
There are other reasons people might drop votes for things; i was originally voting for both (among others, as a scattershot approval vote), and went back earlier today and changed it to drop the waystone vote because out of the top two i prefer markgraf
 
I really don't want the Edgelord position, it seems to political and too permanent, it's putting out fires and Sylvania is always going to be on fire, in fact I feel like the best way to help Sylvania would be to do the Waystones research.
This is exactly the kind of belief that Abelhelm van Hal throughly dismantled by turning the Haunted Hills into prime farmland and Castle Drakenhof into a pile of stones on a hill.

(Granted, right now Sylvania is infested by Battle Wizards, but, you know, progress.)
 
I don't think STV is that good if you have a single, and not multiple, winners. As in, not good at all.
PR-STV don't have a single winner? most of the time 3 seats are split up in the voting group.

STV is only in the case of when there isn't enough spread of votes to fill each seat Reprsetivaly: so overfill from the winner and the votes of the lowest get redistributed to the 2nd pick.

and if there are seats left, both the overfill and the lowest voted gets their votes redistributed to the 3rd pick.

the fact you even said that says you don't know what PR-STV is.
 
Just as a sidenote, this is effectively an argument to never do Waystones, because there will always be other stuff to do first.
To be specific I want to do this stuff we have as options first. I've already said in 10 years if we're doing a vote again, I'd vote Waystones then.
 
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I think that's what's going on. I'm checking the vote constantly because I've been confused.

Everytime Edgelord edges ahead, Waystone catches up (or Edgelord falls back).

The same when Waystone moves ahead.

They were both at 264 now they're both at 262.
With so few new votes coming in despite the turbulence of the lead, I think it's mostly different people see-sawing on strategic voting. People's first choice gets in range so they vote for it exclusively, then people who were 2nd choicing that flip away to get their first choice closer, or try to counter vote entirely, and...

Basically, the point is that the strategic voting situation here is not stable. It'll keep fluctuating until the very end.

Boney may not have intended it, but if this keeps up it seems Mathilde's future is in Ranald's hands after all.
 
Ah yes a spell to improve our own battle field performance, help Grey wizards and kill vampires, a mere personal project.

Roswita is essentially giving us the order to do what ever it takes for as long as it takes.
If it takes new spells she'll have zero issue with us developing them and improving our skills
This is less about Roswitta and more about if the thread would ever find free AP that could not be used on something more pressing.
 
There are other reasons people might drop votes for things; i was originally voting for both (among others, as a scattershot approval vote), and went back earlier today and changed it to drop the waystone vote because out of the top two i prefer markgraf
I was voting for Waystones, then started considering Markgraf more closely and switched to both, then realized I preferred it and removed Waystones.
Jumping straight to trolls seems off to me.
 
To be specific I want to do this stuff we have as options first. I've ready said in 10 years if we're doing a vote again, I'd vote Waystones then.
And in ten in-game years, we will be in the exact same position, having the exact same argument, since there will be 10 other, new, time-sensitive options on the list. As per Boney's Word, that list will NEVER be empty.
 
That's my point though. We could spend a lifetime on Waystones and not finish it. That's why I want to do other stuff first.
That point applies to every job. That could've even applied to conquering Karak Eight Peaks or Spymistress of Stirland. Pacify Sylvania? Easily generational. Guard the Emperor's heir/future Emperor? Work of a lifetime. Drive the Skaven out of Under-Nuln? Good luck achieving that. All of these can and should be assumed to be indefinite tasks for the forseeable future.
 
Ah yes a spell to improve our own battle field performance, help Grey wizards and kill vampires, a mere personal project.

Roswita is essentially giving us the order to do what ever it takes for as long as it takes.
If it takes new spells she'll have zero issue with us developing them and improving our skills
We're the military governor. There's no reason to bother wasting time on something so useless when the effort could be better spent planning the campaign or negotiating with knightly orders or a (boo-hiss) building up infrastructure to get the people on-side rather than doing R&D on something that improves our own personal killiness.

The job is to finish pacifying Sylvania. There will always be something duty requires us to address over and above a mere vanity project. Something that matters, something that impacts the overall objective.
 
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