Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
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King Arthur
The Once and Future King
Huh.
This gave me the dumb image of a Dwarf vs Empire Match where both sides forget to include leadership outside of Mattie, so the person with Mattie on their side successfully argues that, per the Rules as Written, Mattie takes command of both sides and the battle never happens.
Some real Irresponsible Captain Tylor stuff.
…sigh. Well what else could it have been?
Wonder how many Skaven died to provide Mathilde with her new acquisition.
I don't believe BS should be bumped - she's not put much effort into shooting better. I'm also iffy on the generalized Windsage effect, although the specific anti-greenskin/necromancy bonuses seem reasonable.
The Coin tends to be used more for strategic effect - I'm not sure I would include it at all. Also, you forgot the spellburner effect of the Belt.
Mathilde has to actively cast Bless Weapon to affect her guns, it's not automatic.
Doppleganger can probably be simulated by allowing her to use the Hidden rule. Burning Shadows is tricky enough to use that it is probably not worth including.
Ganurath
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Better question: How many survivors saw the previously unknown Eastern Dwarf responsible?
Omegahugger
Inattentive Idiot
Nooo, why couldn't we have rolled a 1? The most valuable of loots?
If you don't want to, you don't need to read the spoiler. It says more or less what you imagine it would.
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Can confirm, I knew even before I clicked.
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Corpses are easy. All it takes is a stab.
Fishies!
I was wondering how much the results of this expedition would becroggle Borek, but then realized he'd categorize it under "weird Wizard things", and be happy that the Expedition is in a better position. There are some benefits to working for someone as singleminded as he is.
SuperSonicSound
Shadowmancer of the Shadow Cabal
well I suppose that solves any short term potential money issue.
King Arthur
The Once and Future King
It's mostly just convenient. It's real nice that Mattie doesn't have to spend time figuring out who she owes money to, and then arranging to pay them back once this is all finished.
Sure, this would have probably happened automatically without us doing anything, Mattie probably would have taken care of it without us needing to vote, but you know what, not everything is about AP. I'm happy that fluff wise Mattie has saved herself a lot of work, even if it never would have affected us as a player base.
Plus, instead of spending money paying the Dawi back, we can it spend all on something else .... like books! Alternatively, throw it back into the EIC.
Sure, this would have probably happened automatically without us doing anything, Mattie probably would have taken care of it without us needing to vote, but you know what, not everything is about AP. I'm happy that fluff wise Mattie has saved herself a lot of work, even if it never would have affected us as a player base.
Plus, instead of spending money paying the Dawi back, we can it spend all on something else .... like books! Alternatively, throw it back into the EIC.
I justified the BS bump in my head on the basis of the shooting shenanigans she's pulled since her last actual action working on guns - stuff like the Skaven-disguise assassinations; even if she hasn't put training in I feel like she's had sufficient experience to improve? Then again that isn't reflected on the character sheet and I'm going for Quest accuracy, so I'll drop it back to 4.
Windsage I did dither over the power level on. Maybe I'll drop the Dispel part and leave Channelling? I think that does feel better.
Coinwise the strategic effect is fairly clear in the augments it provides to Mathilde's Scout rule, and in campaigns any reputation mechanic that's in use. I think, personally, that the anti-Character alpha strike is such a core part of her methodology that not including it would be worse than including it with janky mechanics - at least those can be houseruled, if this was an actual official statline.
Hidden only works to let you hide in your own units as far as I'm aware, whereas the entire point of Doppleganger is to get into enemy units and shank them from within.
I'd conceptualise Burning Shadows as dealing a hit to every model in/within X" of a terrain feature that would reasonably create shadows, if it were daytime, or with a terrain feature between them and something on fire/a fire breath weapon used in the last round, but as I type that out I realise it's still pretty complicated, and really she only uses it for the Eye anyway so leaving it out isn't going to hurt.
DOUBLE EDIT: The belt description I copy-pasted from the original, that's at most 50% my fault
I'll go and correct that too, though.EDIT:
Hmm, I suppose the next step would be to test Nee Tabletop Math versus Exemplar Bloodthirster, or one of the other three Great Daemons for variety.
... I'm gonna go grab some bloodthirster stats and do some mathshammer.
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We can't get boxcars every time, or it won't be special anymore. Also, people will start wondering if someone bribed Xon to fiddle with the odds.
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They would also be unhappy to see unexplained warp-blood-stuff of human accidental origin having anything doing with the runes (not anvils), so there's a layer of polite indirection covering the whole process.
"Runelord Thorek, who has a great many Runelord secrets we shan't ask about, in collaboration with Loremaster Weber, who has a great many Loremaster secrets that we also shan't ask about, of Karak Eight Peaks, the recently reclaimed hold with a bunch of unknown ancient treasure and knowledge, will recharge Anvil Runes for a reasonable favor."
Now it sounds practically respectable, after I insinuate without actually saying there's Golden Age knowledge involved, rather than a mirror-box with a sliced-up warp-entity.
Asheram
Not quite altogether
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Speaking of fishes, I do wonder if we could get a fish farm going in part of K8P... I remember that one of the peaks has a big freshwater reservoir, but that's mostly for our drinking water.
Edit: Ah yes, the Silver Tarn in Karagril
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Adding to others' comments:
Also, on topic of Holds and minor Holds - Karak Drazh was a major hold, not a vassal of K8P? And what political relationship did it have with K8P back before the fall?
Of course if Karak Drazh would be reclaimed in the quest, its relationship with reclaimed K8P would be built almost from scratch, but dwarfs would probably apply legal situation of the past to the present to some extent.
I thought in Warhammer wargames there's a "never ever reroll already rerolled die" rule/design principle? Or is it only case in 40k, not in Fantasy or this Warhammer Armies project?
Also, on topic of Holds and minor Holds - Karak Drazh was a major hold, not a vassal of K8P? And what political relationship did it have with K8P back before the fall?
Of course if Karak Drazh would be reclaimed in the quest, its relationship with reclaimed K8P would be built almost from scratch, but dwarfs would probably apply legal situation of the past to the present to some extent.
Drazh was a major hold, yes. One step below High King.
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Well that just raises the question of how much a Kislev Ducat is worth!
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True, and I am glad that the last boxcards happened with Karag Vlag, as much as we would have loved to get the books or the slave I think that getting Karag Vlag out of the Aethyr safely and that the demons decided to start killing among themselves was FAR, FAR, FAR, more important
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SaltyWaffles
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If she thought it was a scam, she would have said so in the previous post.
Yes, it's a gamble, but it's one with good odds and a potential for a strong payoff.