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I'm pretty confident that this is indeed the case, but concede that we haven't actually had a vote on it or anything. I only mentioned it so that people wouldn't vote with the idea that they needed to save money for something we planned on needing lots of money for.
I'm not really worried about the money side.

the EIC money alone will fund the beginning incomes and projects.

and anything more would have needed a source of income or patron above what mathy is able for anyways.
 
I don't trust the meat frankly. The sample lends me negaive confidence and the stupidly high asking price suggests to me that the official is getting desperate and is trying a hail mary before as the price is just shy of the value being low enough that Zharr-Naggrund is going to take them.

We have the right magic on hand to purify even rancid meat, so there's only the question of whether an extra week and a half of food is worth the money. It unquestionably is.
 
I'm pretty confident that this is indeed the case, but concede that we haven't actually had a vote on it or anything. I only mentioned it so that people wouldn't vote with the idea that they needed to save money for something we planned on needing lots of money for.

I'm not sure why you're confident about that assertion, it's a thread of conversation that has been running through the last thousand + pages and I believe I can recall offhand around 10-15 people involved that were for it a number of them the thread planners and frankly that's usually a good enough sign that something is more or less inevitable. Regardless the buy everything lobby is large enough it's likely to win no matter what.

Strawpoll link

I do this out of curiosity to see if there's any real thread appetite for the Research institute not to influence the current vote.
 
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We have the right magic on hand to purify even rancid meat, so there's only the question of whether an extra week and a half of food is worth the money. It unquestionably is.
Especially since I think we're spending Borek's money on it. I'm not sure whether or not he expects us to pay him back.

How about we have a little faith in him and his ability to know when to use his spells or not?
Now you're just getting nasty.

If you think it's safe, say you think it's safe. You have a fair point. The Gold College may very well have the relevant experience and knowledge to either know this can be handled safely, or know it can't and leave it alone.

But.

But but but.

Saying "Simon, if you had faith in him you wouldn't worry about his safety," is unnecessary and I don't appreciate it.

It's unknown magic, probably wrought by one of the most powerful groups in the setting, and this is a setting with a well known tendency to completely ignore the side effects of their nominally Order-aligned actions and how that will affect other, 'lesser' beings. If this turns out to be, I dunno, Lord Kroak's backscratcher or something, I wouldn't put it past whoever made it to casually and accidentally blast the consciousness of any mortals who observed it being made.

And my having faith in Johann's intelligence and knowledge does not mean I have faith in his ability to stay safe when handling mysterious relics. Maybe he'll be fine, and maybe he won't, though honestly on further reflection I'm willing to run that risk if he is and we know he's not exactly risk-averse.

Only if they actually are cognito-hazards.
Those golden plaques are so confusing even the slann have trouble making heads or tails of them.

Pretty sure they're not just cognitohazards to human wizards, they're quadruple cognitohazard royale with cheese.

Are power stones of any use to a non-wizard? Because not sure why a non-wizard would want them and any wizard is going to recognize a fake. So who would be buying these?
Anyone clueless enough to mistake a random hunk of stone for a powerstone is clueless enough to think that powerstones are useful to non-wizards.

It's classic conman tactics. Make a really obvious deception the first step in your con, something that only a truly gullible fool would believe. That way, in all the subsequent steps where a cautious or educated person might go "hey, wait a minute," you are already dealing with a gullible fool.
 
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I'm not sure why you're confident about that assertion, it's a thread of conversation that has been running through the last thousand + pages and I believe I can recall offhand around 10-15 people involved that were for it a number of them the thread planners and frankly that's usually a good enough sign that something is more or less inevitable. Regardless the buy everything lobby is large enough it's likely to win no matter what.

Strawpoll link

I do this out of curiosity to see if there's any real thread appetite for the Research institute not to influence the current vote.
Boney has already said no to straw polls.
 
Boney has already said no to straw polls.

That context was in relation to influencing the current vote. That said ill take it down if it was meant to be a general no to straw polls, from my perspective it just seems like it would be useful to know if there's even any value in discussing the K8P research branch idea. Should it genuinely be a minority position there's no point getting invested in it and wasting time discussing it only to have all that energy and enthusiasm wasted when it never had any hope in a vote regardless.

I've no intent to sway the current vote which the last poll was iirc aimed at.
 
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I think it's also worth remembering that Pan is busy. She put off becoming a Magister for a very long time for that reason, and she's crucially important to rehabilitating essentially a whole ecosystem. I really don't think that Mathilde can fob off research on the (enormously expensive...) acorn off on her.
Moreover, it would be a tremendously tacky gift.
 
[X] HALL: No
[X] MEAT: Yes
[X] ARM: Yes
[X] NUT: Yes
[X] PAPERS: Yes

i don't think doing strawpoll stuff will tell you anything in a quest thread this size. Only the people actually reading everything will find it, and only people with strong opinions on the subject will participate.
 
I think it's also worth remembering that Pan is busy. She put off becoming a Magister for a very long time for that reason, and she's crucially important to rehabilitating essentially a whole ecosystem. I really don't think that Mathilde can fob off research on the (enormously expensive...) acorn off on her.
Moreover, it would be a tremendously tacky gift.
I mean, I'm not voting for (or against) the nut, but if we get it I'd probably be more inclined to donate it for College Favor or use it in negotiations with the Eonir than give it to Pan, much as I love her.
 
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I'd be much more interested in seeing if we can trade the acorn to the Laurelorn embassy in return for magical texts/instruction from them rather than just giving it away to someone.
 
I think it's pretty likely that the seed would be a viable "research this with another K8P wizard" item. Why wouldn't it be?
I'd be much more interested in seeing if we can trade the acorn to the Laurelorn embassy in return for magical texts/instruction from them rather than just giving it away to someone.
Per Boney, Mathilde has no idea what it is; unless we trip over that information somehow, we're at least going to have to research it before that's something that would make sense for Mathilde to do.
Mathilde doesn't know what an Oak of Ages is.
 
I suspect they actually do ban Relic priests from being brought into the city. Because one of those waking up a bit inside would be... bad. Very bad. And they probably require shielding on warpstone, etc.
Honestly its probably a mix.
Vampire parts are very easily manageable for example as long as you know you need to and so declaring them is just letting the Chaos dwarves plan for the bad scenario.
Whereas, yes if you're bringing a Relic Priest into the city there is probably a Lizardman army chasing after you, don't bring them here. How did you even get that?
 
Per Boney, Mathilde has no idea what it is; unless we trip over that information somehow, we're at least going to have to research it before that's something that would make sense for Mathilde to do.

The potential value Wood elves would put on a very concentrated source of Ghyran embodied as the seed of a tree should really be pretty immediately obvious.

And Jade Wizards don't get anything like the Gold's analysis spells in relation to plants. Johann could cast Breach the Unknown on it to learn it's properties, but that's about it. We could give it to Max and Johann and tell them to non-destructively investigate, as the Gold College makes lots of use of biological ingredients, and this might be a potent alchemical ingredient.
 
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I think it's also worth remembering that Pan is busy. She put off becoming a Magister for a very long time for that reason, and she's crucially important to rehabilitating essentially a whole ecosystem. I really don't think that Mathilde can fob off research on the (enormously expensive...) acorn off on her.

Just going to say, the power in that acorn might be enough to complete the ecosystem revitalization project all on its own. If that's how it was used.
 
I kinda think that using Ranald's Coin isn't a foolproof plan.
These dwarves had six thousand years to stuff the city full of security measures, firstly. If they have work ethic at least a little similar to their cousins, I don't want to know what they are,

Secondly, and more importantly, using an artifact of Ranald's power in a stronghold of another god's power is just asking for a confrontation.

Ranald and Hashut are both gods of thieves, I can't imagine they like each other much, or at all.
 
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