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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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I don't know about that Acorn. Anyone having it might well be marked as an enemy of whomever it was stolen from (*cough*, Athel Loren). It's not quite as bad as stealing from the Tomb Kings, but even if we took it back to K8P and Panoramia planted it and everything was great, it's still a ticking time bomb. 200 years later some hypothetical wood elf visitor might well point their finger at the resulting oak and go, "What the fuck is that?" Then you got War of Vengeance II: Electric Bugaloo.

Of course.... if we bought it, found the proper owners (Athel Loren), and returned it. Hmmmm.
 
Xepheria said:
Consider: if we don't buy the acorn here, someone else will, including the possibility that it ends up in either Chaos Dwarf, Skaven or Dark Elf hands. I don't know about you guys, but I'm very much not comfortable with the idea of leaving such a potent artefact in the hands of any of those factions.

What we do with it after we can think about later; study it, return it, whatever. That's a problem for a time that isn't now.
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Now there's a thought, do we want to find out what a Chaos worshiper could do with with an acorn of the bloody Oak of Ages?
 
Ehh, I have serious doubts about Athel Loren's ability to do anything to us even if we buy the acorn. Only issue is if the acorn will get corrupted in the chaos wastes, because that would be bad.
 
Ekzentric Lohner said:
It's even pricier than the arm, but it'd be an amazing souvenir for our girlfriend. No strong opinion here either - I'm leaning yes, but could be convinced not to go for it.
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It's a mystery box on so many levels, not just Panoramia. I find a nice souvenirs for Panoramia trivializes this purchase to an alarming degree.

We don't know the geopolitical implications of this purchase. If it's an Acron of the Oak of ages, we've just purchased something very dangerous for us to study politically for obvious reasons.

We don't even know if Panoramia can study this artifact. As for those that assume this is not an AP Drain in the sense of gift it to Panoramia and let it be.... please don't make those assumptions. You could argue it's an interesting collaborative project with Panoramia that might open the gates to using Windherder, but I'd prefer to assume both this and the paper are AP neutral and leave it at that.

We don't know how safe it is to take a highly magical Ghyran Acron into the Chaos Wastes.

I'm not keen on rolling this mystery box just for it could be a nice gift for Panoramia, based on those risk assessments.

As for the arm, now that it's not a chaotic artifact, I'd probably switch my vote to purchasing it, that took away my main argument against the purchase.
 
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Guys, just think about it.

If we buy the arm, we'll have either a Tomb King or a Lizardmen army show up at our doorstep.

That means more friends/allies.

According to @Omegahugger logic, that also means an increased number of possible ships, which is always a net gain.

The same applies to the Wood Elves as well with the possible Oak of Ages Acorn. Truly, there is no way for this to backfire at all, and we should buy all of the things available here.


But in all seriousness, I want to buy the acorn anyway, not gonna lie. We either get possible research options, a possible emergency weapon (imagine fighting a greater demon by shoving a literal nut into its chest only for a tree to sprout out of it... actually that might just heal it, but you get the general idea of "murder via tree"), and, if it actually is an acorn from the Oak of Ages, we can give it to the Hippies back in Athel Loren and they might even be (slightly) thankful (or at least as much as the Asrai are capable of being.)
 
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It's a mystery box on so many levels, not just Panoramia.

We don't know the geopolitical implications of this purchase. If it's an Acron of the Oak of ages, we've just purchased something very dangerous for us to study politically for obvious reasons.

We don't even know if Panoramia can study this artifact. As for those that assume this is not an AP Drain.... please don't make those assumptions.

We don't know how safe it is to take a highly magical Ghyran Acron into the Chaos Wastes.

I'm not keen on rolling this mystery box just for it could be a nice gift for Panoramia, based on those risk assessments.
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We can put it in a safe container per word of GM. I'm not set on it, just clarifying.
 
[ ] HALL: No
[ ] MEAT: Yes
[ ] ARM: Yes
[ ] NUT: Yes
[ ] PAPERS: Yes

The arm should be ok, the papers are even more ok, and we could just ask Cadaeth about the seed.
 
Aren't the Lizardmen pretty militant about getting their gold plates/artifacts back as well? Like not to the Tomb King levels of "I will hunt you to the ends of the Earth" but still pretty persistent....
 
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[ ] HALL: Yes
[x] HALL: No
We already know this a place of horrors, no good to be done by looking at them.

[x] MEAT: Yes
[ ] MEAT: No
Hopefully we won't have to eat it but we need the reserve, it's why we came here.

[ ] ARM: Yes
[x] ARM: No

Does Mathilde purchase the Ghyran nut for 1000 gold coins?
[x] NUT: Yes
[ ] NUT: No
Pannoramia might have fun with it

Does Mathilde purchase the explorer's writings for 200 gold coins?
[x] PAPERS: Yes
[ ] PAPERS: No
This can probably be set against the library budget.
 
EVA-Saiyajin said:
We can put it in a safe container per word of GM. I'm not set on it, just clarifying.
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"Safe" overstates the case.
BoneyM said:
The Engineers back at the Expedition would be capable of slapping together some rudimentary shielding for the nut.
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My extremely ass-pulled guess is that rudimentary shielding will stand up to passive environmental badness if the Expedition goes about as long as expected, but not to truly prolonged exposure or to the expedition being the subject of active bombardment by dark magic.
noliar said:
[ ] HALL: Yes
[x] HALL: No
We already know this a place of horrors, no good to be done by looking at them.

[x] MEAT: Yes
[ ] MEAT: No
Hopefully we won't have to eat it but we need the reserve, it's why we came here.

[ ] ARM: Yes
[x] ARM: No

Does Mathilde purchase the Ghyran nut for 1000 gold coins?
[x] NUT: Yes
[ ] NUT: No
Pannoramia might have fun with it

Does Mathilde purchase the explorer's writings for 200 gold coins?
[x] PAPERS: Yes
[ ] PAPERS: No
This can probably be set against the library budget.
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Vote's not open yet, friendo.
 
About the Acorn, let me ask you this.
What are the chances we figure it out before it's used and we have a massive tree in K8P? A tree that's somehow eve worse to cut down than keeping up, and will start a war?
Edit: IE, before someone goes "Let's plant it and see what happens."
 
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BoneyM said:
"Gabriella von Ernachthafen," he repeats, carefully scrawling runes with a quill. He looks you up and down. "Grey, Black, Thrall, or incognito?"
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That's probably not the intended meaning but it really amuses me that the Dawi Zharr straight up ask visitors if they're a Grey Wizard.

BoneyM said:
It's too blocky to pin a species on it. It's only got four fingers instead of five, though it's about the size of a human arm. She can't tell exactly what sort of magic it is until she figures out how to turn it on, but she can tell that it's not tainted.
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Hmm, it definitely sounds like a Lizardman prosthesis but Saurus are much larger than humans. Maybe it was originally for a skink?
 
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@BoneyM Would you mind adding to the update that the arm only has 4 fingers and that Mathilde is sure it is untainted?

Those are really important bits of information which I think everyone needs to know before making a decision...
 
I think this is my final opinion:

[ ] HALL: No
[ ] MEAT: Yes
[ ] ARM: No
[ ] NUT: Yes
[ ] PAPERS: Yes

There is no point on spending 800 gold for the arm, and if the nut is from oak of ages it is better we have it than some chaos aligned faction. Papers are pretty cheap and interesting, so definite yes for that.

And let's not go to the Hall and scar Mathilde for life
 
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