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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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Prospalz said:
Boney wasn't terribly enthused about all "This deed should give us this much reward" talk at least some point in the past. Maybe be careful with that sort of stuff?
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That is fair, though my perspective is more like this:
We've gotten a glimpse that our reward is crazy high, and now I'm trying to understand why it's like that.
Mathilde might not agree that her god getting grudged is great, but as a reader, I absolutly think so, because it's super interesting.
 
Between this latest news and our old scheme of using the Loremaster position to avoid Vow of Poverty-related problems, can we now say that Mathilde is legally a dwarf for tax purposes?
 
This entire thing should firmly cement Mathilde as the person that is called upon in the Empire when they are dealing with Dwarves and in a similar vein this would also mean that Mathilde would be the person called upon when the Dwarves deal with the Empire or Elves.
 
How I imagine the conclave went:

Grand Conclave of the High Priests of the Ancestor Cult: "Kragg the Grim, you have been summoned to this holy conclave to provide witness testimony upon the character of the Human Wizard known as 'Mathilde Weber'."

Kragg, wearing sunglasses and doing a sweet kickflip: "Yeah, she's pretty cool I guess?"

Grand Conclave of High Priests of the Ancestor Cult: GASP!
 
If we want to talk on the Empire side, I do think you have to take into account that to some degree this is "as expected for a Lord Magister".

I mean yes, sure, have some backslaps for it at the College, but they appoint people as Lord Magisters because they're expected to pull off shit like bringing back lost karaks. That's why she gets the fancy stripes on her robe sleeves and the authority to decide, "in this case clogging a waystone is the right call" without having to answer tough questions later.
 
Actually random thought for a potential position if we decide to step down from the Loremaster stuff, namely as the official Ambassador of the Karaz Ankor to the Empire which naturally necessitates a post in the royal court.

Simultaneously we get a position (likely with some help from the Empress) where we are the Empire's official ambassador to the dwarves who goes to them whenever the Empire wants to speak about something.

Essentially we become the primary go-between for all communications between the two.
 
Sinsystems said:
Actually random thought for a potential position if we decide to step down from the Loremaster stuff, namely as the official Ambassador of the Karaz Ankor to the Empire which naturally necessitates a post in the royal court.

Simultaneously we get a position (likely with some help from the Empress) where we are the Empire's official ambassador to the dwarves who goes to them whenever the Empire wants to speak about something.

Essentially we become the primary go-between for all communications between the two.
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Mathilde does not have the diplomacy chops to handle that kind of position. IMO.
 
Sinsystems said:
Actually random thought for a potential position if we decide to step down from the Loremaster stuff, namely as the official Ambassador of the Karaz Ankor to the Empire which naturally necessitates a post in the royal court.

Simultaneously we get a position (likely with some help from the Empress) where we are the Empire's official ambassador to the dwarves who goes to them whenever the Empire wants to speak about something.

Essentially we become the primary go-between for all communications between the two.
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Mathilde will have the towering reputation, but her Diplomacy remains mediocre. She'd be a poor choice for an ambassador - better to have her as an asset they can call on if need be, rather than handle any negotiations herself.

EDIT: Eshin'd/Mathilde'd.
 
I don't know that you can expect "An announcement from the Emergency Meeting of the Ancestor Cult Conclave of the Karaz Ankor, hosted in Karaz-a-Karak." to be reported back to the Empire at large or even necessarily people like the Grand Theologian.

I think some of you may be forgetting just how incredibly close-mouthed the dawi can be when it comes to things they consider their own affairs. Remember that Mathilde is considered to be one of the only people in the Empire with an ear into Karaz Ankor politics. She had to be the one to explain what was going on with the politics behind the canal, and that's a project being done in conjunction with humans! Ain't no human going to hear about Ancestor Cult Conclave results unless Mathilde tells them about it.
 
I think this makes both getting training on the lores of the Ancestor Gods from the dwarf Cults and taking more diplomacy classes at the Colleges important.

We need to understand what this means, and that means doing the background research and getting the broad capabilities to interpret the results.

Also, we can now have Mathilde marry one of Kazador's sons, which is a top tier result.
 
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You know, it also says something that the Dwarves, who are usually meticulous about who they blame for things and what they blame them for, are so openly and directly accusing Ranald of fucking with a Dwarven soul, both in that they chose to go directly at him and that they would lay such an accusation at all. That tells me they probably know something we don't.
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I don't know that you can expect "An announcement from the Emergency Meeting of the Ancestor Cult Conclave of the Karaz Ankor, hosted in Karaz-a-Karak." to be reported back to the Empire at large or even necessarily people like the Grand Theologian.

I think some of you may be forgetting just how incredibly close-mouthed the dawi can be when it comes to things they consider their own affairs. Remember that Mathilde is considered to be one of the only people in the Empire with an ear into Karaz Ankor politics. She had to be the one to explain what was going on with the politics behind the canal, and that's a project being done in conjunction with humans! Ain't no human going to hear about Ancestor Cult Conclave results unless Mathilde tells them about it.
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Or unless they go to the Empire trying to find who to lodge their grudge against Ranald with. You would probably do that at a church or something, but given how decentralized Ranald's faith is in the Empire...
 
Ericwinter said:
Or unless they go to the Empire trying to find who to lodge their grudge against Ranald with. You would probably do that at a church or something, but given how decentralized Ranald's faith is in the Empire...
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inb4 Ranald directs them to address their complaints to Ranald's Liaison on Dwarven Affairs, namely Mathilde :V
 
Sinsystems said:
Actually random thought for a potential position if we decide to step down from the Loremaster stuff, namely as the official Ambassador of the Karaz Ankor to the Empire which naturally necessitates a post in the royal court.

Simultaneously we get a position (likely with some help from the Empress) where we are the Empire's official ambassador to the dwarves who goes to them whenever the Empire wants to speak about something.

Essentially we become the primary go-between for all communications between the two.
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I don´t really understand why we should step down from our position as Loremaster of K8P... Not, really we have most of our friends living there, our girlfriend lives there, our job is interesting and varied, we have time for our personal research, we are well known and respected and I consider it almost impossible to meet a better boss than Belegar (or at least a boss to whom we would have a better relationship)...
 
Redshirt Army said:
The worst and least explicable part would have been the part where she was reincarnated as a random Stirland peasant as opposed to anywhere with a better quality of life.
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It's actually incredibly safe, oddly enough. Stirland, because there aren't unpredictable forests nearby, and the big threat is a much more predictable (from a God's POV) necromancer rising. A small, isolated village, because he knew that a) there wasn't anyone else with any magical talent, ruling out a necromancer rising up nearby; b) she wouldn't leave the town or interact with anyone outside of it, ruling out a vast number of complications; and c) that village, because he knew there was a honest, good soldier there that follow the law and stop the burning.

Note the difference between this and a Tzeentch plan. Ranald usually lets the roulette wheel spin (maybe the watchman dies to early, for example), after he has rigged the game. And he needs to do this, as he doesn't have anywhere near the power to consistently manipulate stuff to go in his favor. In contrast, Tzeentch would have about 17 different cults, all doing something different, with there interactions somehow insuring that everything goes right, and also have a much bigger payoff than potential follower ends up safely at a college. He sets up a nonlinear Rube Goldberg machine, and is constantly having to ensure everything on it's multiple paths all work in concert correctly while it is running. But he's so powerful, he gets away with his inefficient methods. If Ranald and Tzeentch had similar power, Ranald would win unless Tzeentch got lucky, but since Tzeentch is so much more powerful than Ranald, there's no comparison.
 
Aranfan said:
Mathilde does not have the diplomacy chops to handle that kind of position. IMO.
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Deathbybunnies said:
Mathilde will have the towering reputation, but her Diplomacy remains mediocre. She'd be a poor choice for an ambassador - better to have her as an asset they can call on if need be, rather than handle any negotiations herself.
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Honestly, call me stupid, but I'd rather appoint a mediocre diplomat with tremendous good will from the other side (especially if the other side is honour junkies) rather than an amazing diplomat that knows nothing about them and is not known as well.

RL ambassadors, are chosen not solely for their diplomacy stat, but also (and that often weighs more) from their knowledge of the other culture and its politics and their contacts in it. People would have to be stupid not to ant to appoint Mathilde as Ambassador to the Karaz Ankor, mediocre diplomacy or no.
 
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