Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
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- Location
- In that den of villains and scum, OKLAHOMA
People saying Ranald planned shit out as if he didn't literally just take a bunch of random gambles that paid off lol.
"I planned exactly none of this and its still going my way! How do you like THOSE apples, Tzeench!"
"I planned exactly none of this and its still going my way! How do you like THOSE apples, Tzeench!"
- Location
- Canada (eh)
Why even visit Chaos Vegas if you aren't going to
He also likes fucking with us, and he's also a god of lying. Anything he says needs to come with a complimentary salt mine (though from how things are going, it actually might).
Aranfan
Team Plasma Grunt
Yeah, we even know his high priestess and we can ask her to ask him.
Bob's Beard
I will punch you in the eyeballs with wooooooords!
Well isn't this a fun bit of speculation that's been induced here.
Yeah, my money's on this being of the [Dwarves scrabbling to deal with laws that were never intended to operate in the modern context let alone in relation to Mathilde, and this is the least bad way they can see to publically address what she's done that doesn't produce slayers, break laws, or require they punish Mathilde] persuasion, rather than [Dwarves refusing to believe a human could do this much/have to have it be that a dwarf accomplished so much for dwarves rather than acknowledge non-dwarf assistance can trump dwarf efforts] or any of those iterations.
The dwarves, thematically, are shackled by overly rigid laws that they really can't break - that is part of how they are written, and relative to that dancing through hoops to not break rules that mesh poorly with reality seems very on brand, and I see no reason to presume less charitably about their rationales until there is further data to scrutinize.
This said... if it is the latter and not the former?
Yeah the Ancestor Council's being a big jerkface.
Yeah, my money's on this being of the [Dwarves scrabbling to deal with laws that were never intended to operate in the modern context let alone in relation to Mathilde, and this is the least bad way they can see to publically address what she's done that doesn't produce slayers, break laws, or require they punish Mathilde] persuasion, rather than [Dwarves refusing to believe a human could do this much/have to have it be that a dwarf accomplished so much for dwarves rather than acknowledge non-dwarf assistance can trump dwarf efforts] or any of those iterations.
The dwarves, thematically, are shackled by overly rigid laws that they really can't break - that is part of how they are written, and relative to that dancing through hoops to not break rules that mesh poorly with reality seems very on brand, and I see no reason to presume less charitably about their rationales until there is further data to scrutinize.
This said... if it is the latter and not the former?
Yeah the Ancestor Council's being a big jerkface.
- Location
- Outside the Box
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Ranald does like high-stakes gambits.
See the proof yourself:
- Theft from Mork and Gork
- Ranaldian Empress
- Dwarf, I promise!
Over in Ranald!Quest, the players are partying while the QM is taking a long break at the balcony to question their sanity. Yet another roll of straight 6s. Mathilde is real.
- Location
- In that den of villains and scum, OKLAHOMA
Shared custody: Gazul gets her on weekends and holidays, ranald gets her soul on weekdays.
Ericwinter
Definitely not a Skaven Infiltrator
- Location
- America
...Oh shit, I just had a thought. This is a public announcement, right? Has to be if they want it largely recognized that Mathilde is actually a dwarf, for whatever reason. Which means they're straight up telling people we're a Ranald worshiper. Everybody will know. The College can't do that whole "only recognize you after death" thing, unless they want to call the entire Karaz Ankor liars, and Mathilde can't be ambiguous about her faith. And considering the Dwarves both called a grudge on him but also sorta kinda forgave him immediately with clear approval of Mathilde in general—and thus tacit approval of him—I can just imagine the religious political situation around Ranald suddenly becoming a total clusterfuck. Like, Sigmarites might actually be inclined to support Ranaldites now, since they support the dwarves who might support them. The there's everybody else...
NexysDhyArchen
Throne Breaker
Can you imagine the mood swing Belegar would go through getting the news?
Nah. The con must go on, why have a afterlife when there is work to be done? Obviously it's either Nehekhara or Ulthuan next (spawning pools being unfortunately too high security regarding souls to infiltrate).
Master infiltrator next plz.
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- Location
- Before the Ninth Gate
My money is more on: They got actual info from an Ancestor God that the theft actually happened. It's very un Dawi-like to create such a lie.
- Location
- France
I think that Dwarves Grudging Ranald is mostly a sign for Sigmarites to like Ranaldite cults even less
Wai
I do not know why but Skink Mathilde seems amusing to me. I am imagine a skink in robes that has reclaimed lost cities and gold plaques.
Ericwinter
Definitely not a Skaven Infiltrator
- Location
- America
...At least he's doesn't have to feel weird about owing such a massive debt to an Umgi?
That's also possible, but I expect it to be a very mixed bag of reactions because he got grudges, but also earned forgiveness and then some. Especially if they decide her soul was stolen from somewhere else and erase the grudge entirely.
For consideration, he stole one soul—Mathilde—but returned however many were trapped in Vlag as a result. Also the mugging of Mork—including learning that Tzeentch was partly responsible for Black Orcs and thus lessening that burden—other Grudges Mathilde has wiped out, vaporizing a Waaagh, helping with Eight Peaks, saving the Okral... I'm pretty sure Ranald will come out of this with a surplus of opinion, not a deficit. Hardcore Sigmarites will definitely get offended, but not necessarily all.
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I'm sure Reiner Starke will be thrilled.
Valarauko
Demon of Power
- Location
- Angband
And a hat!
The muggling of Mork is not public and there is no indication that it will become so.
Ericwinter
Definitely not a Skaven Infiltrator
- Location
- America
That was included because a fair few of the possible "trusted sources" would probably also be aware of it—Belegar, Kragg, I would expect the Ancestor Gods to be at least vaguely aware and especially Gazul—even if they don't publicly tally it, there will probably be some consideration there.
Omegahugger
Inattentive Idiot
As for where Ranald theoretically stole a Dawi soul from, I would like to remind people that until very recently there was a Karak literally stuck in the Chaos Realm and under constant siege by Slaanesh.
If Ranald wanted to do a guilt-free theft (which is not given), he could poach one of the poor innocent souls that Slaanesh where about to take for themselves.
If Ranald wanted to do a guilt-free theft (which is not given), he could poach one of the poor innocent souls that Slaanesh where about to take for themselves.
Asheram
Not quite altogether
- Location
- Δ Hidden Forbidden Holy Ground
He's going to have an apoplectic fit. If she had been a Sigmarite she would likely have been declared a saint after her death.
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- Earth
That Mathilde is responsible for weakening Mork is.
She said so to the entire K8P war council.
Only Ranalds involvement was only mentioned to Kragg and Belegar.
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- Location
- In that den of villains and scum, OKLAHOMA
Thats an entirely different situation, bluntly.
Ericwinter
Definitely not a Skaven Infiltrator
- Location
- America
...Imagine Kragg's.
That probably stung a bit to say, but now we are a dwarf he knows, theoretically at least. That's gotta be confusing.
And since they seem to be considering most of what Mathilde has done for the dwarves to be an extension of Ranald's actions, it'll probably still count regardless.