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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
- Thread starter Boney
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Oh jezz, i wonder If Karag Drum will have such a OC /fishing expedition.
So, nothing particularly important or relevant came from the investigation so far then, and it was actually Mathilde who initiated it and then and made it happen when Panoramia didn't see it as a priority?
SuperSonicSound
Shadowmancer of the Shadow Cabal
I give it better than 50% odds that Karak Dum is just straight up a ruin with no survivors or worse. So sure when we get to Karak Dum if there are surviovors, and if those survivors are rune smiths, and if any of them are radicals, we might be able to strike up a relation with one of them and get them to work on magic and runes together with us.
Alternatively we could work with Prince Kazrick.
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Again, wow. Least charitable reading. The important and relevant stuff that came from it was specifically *not* released at Mathilde's request, so you are technically correct from an outside perspective. You are also technically correct in that Mathilde initiated it, but Pan was the one who kept the spores and grew the mushrooms, so 'made it happen' is Pan's, not Mathilde's.
Did you ever actually go through and outline why you don't like Pan, so I can read and refresh?
NSMS
Probably evil, unfortunately.
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- A rapidly widening tear in the fabric of reality
I'm reasonably sure the fact that she used to be a fangirl's been brought up at least once, as well as comparing her relationship with Mathilde to a kouhai/sempai one as a reason not to start dating her.
Vebyast
Nascent Transhuman
Honestly, given it's the dwarves, we could probably make it a repository of all knowledge, even the corrupt stuff, and just make sure they aren't lending out the nasty bits. The Light Order has demonstrated that even humans can do an okay job keeping the stuff under wraps. The Dwarves would do better. Check out the archives we saw when we sent Thorgrim a copy of Rakilid un Thaggorhun, with its huge piles of warpstone tech and stuff.
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- Mexico
Uh, imagine the amount of character growth they had to ignore in order to make that argument, next we'll be hearing about not asking Kragg for advice, since he was, presumably, at some point, a beardling.
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- The Surface Of A Hostile Planet
The main issue with that is that "hey this place has a shitload of evil lore stored" is like catnip for Chaos invasions - it's literally the bait Algard uses for his towers.
I suppose we could take inspiration from Algard and build K8P up as a deathtrap for Chaos warbands, but causing Belegar that much trouble with the Boon is something I don't expect the thread to jump at.
Vebyast
Nascent Transhuman
Fair. Perhaps just don't actively exclude it so that possibility remains for the future? We do have the Eye of Gazul and the Dragon Pillar there already, Cython calls it home, and with a L I B R A R Y and branch college and the Mootening there it'll be quite well defended. The Light College similarly has a huge trove of Evil Artifacts and I doubt they get many armies marching on them.
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- Before the Ninth Gate
It wouldn't be a good idea. A key benefit of Algard's tower is that it can move. So you ambush, then move the tower away.
Vebyast
Nascent Transhuman
I have had what I believe to be a genuine certified Bad Idea.
Remember how we were thinking strategic teleport tower? And how the hardest part would be that we'd have to pick two fixed locations or get a dreadnought or something? And how the annoying part of Algard's schtick is coordinating with Order forces to make sure there are traps in the right places?
C-c-c-c-c-c-c-ombo our teleport tower idea with the Screaming Towers plan using a K8P repository of evil knowledge as extra bait. A tower back to K8P would be catnip. But it's also a fantastic way to drop an entire army on a warband that's expecting to do an in-and-out smash-and-grab.
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chocolote12
A Penguin Flailing Against The Keyboard Of Life.
You know, I've come to realize I don't even actually dislike Panoramia-the-character. She wouldn't really get enough words to negatively impact the questing experience even if I did, but I'm more ambivalent about her than anything.
The Topic of Panoramia, as a point of discussion, is basically... The Liber Mortis topic, except I'm one of the five people who voted no, and we can't ban discussion on it or ever 'just get it over' because she's supposed to be a fixture of our character now, so it's constantly in the foreground, and the thread is cursed to chew it over for the rest of time, without rest or recourse.
So it's a worse thing than the Liber Mortis by itself. It's more like a sideways version of the thread voting to become a necromancer outright, and I'm a reverse Omegahugger who's constantly wanting us not to have done that.
It's not Panoramia in particular who makes it that way, though, even if she's the face of the cause. If Cython had won, or Johann, I'd be just as bitter, much as I might have tried to convince myself otherwise while the vote was ongoing.
Being Sideways reverse Omegahugger sucks. I hate Neck-Romance-y.
The Topic of Panoramia, as a point of discussion, is basically... The Liber Mortis topic, except I'm one of the five people who voted no, and we can't ban discussion on it or ever 'just get it over' because she's supposed to be a fixture of our character now, so it's constantly in the foreground, and the thread is cursed to chew it over for the rest of time, without rest or recourse.
So it's a worse thing than the Liber Mortis by itself. It's more like a sideways version of the thread voting to become a necromancer outright, and I'm a reverse Omegahugger who's constantly wanting us not to have done that.
It's not Panoramia in particular who makes it that way, though, even if she's the face of the cause. If Cython had won, or Johann, I'd be just as bitter, much as I might have tried to convince myself otherwise while the vote was ongoing.
Being Sideways reverse Omegahugger sucks. I hate Neck-Romance-y.
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- Europa, Jupiter Orbit
Now I'm curious if one can use College Favor to lean on people. It would probably not make you friends and might be frowned upon by certain members of the leadership, but given how College Favor is mostly horse trading and such, if you know the right people and have the right reasons it should be possible to translate CF into social bullying.
She might have. We have no idea what kind of position she jas among the Besiegers.
I'm pretty sure nepotism as an insult wasn't a very popular accusation to throw around. The idea that blood ties are a major indicator for talent, moral standing and the very worth of a person are pretty much what feudalism is based on. As is the idea that oaths, feats and sins go back and forth between father and son.
This is even more true for Dwarves.
If you were to say to a Dwarf that he only gave someone a position of import because they were family or friends of family they would ask you to clarify what you mean by "only" and consider the mere idea that someone being their second cousin isn't an indicator for greatness and trustworthiness a personal insult.
Yep. I've repeatedly said that I don't consider Belegar a radical. Just tolerant of radicals and thankful for what they have done for him. But every time he gets a radical gift he searches for a very polite way to say "Thanks. I hate it." and every time he himself has a radical opinion to express it is mired in self doubt, anger, and other complicated feelings. I can't see him praising radicalism itself though. Not like Gotri.
I hope she eventually just falls into the wolf zone, so people that don't like her/the romance vote winning in general don't have to deal with it that much but there's enough content for people who like it they don't feel the need to politicize in thread about her like this latest bout of a solution in search of problem.
NSMS
Probably evil, unfortunately.
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- A rapidly widening tear in the fabric of reality
I'd describe Belegar as a pragmatist. He's not against the established order or traditions just for the sake of it, but he's fully willing to work around them or ignore them for the good of his Karak.
I think it's absolutely possible, and probely does happen... not often, but not rarly ether.
pretitulerly among colleges and factions that are less freindly and among powerful wizerds and weaker ones.
it doesnt even need to be overt or personal.
the Ducking clubs creation even had elements of this type of passave power-move.
Mathy all but said that when she 'suggested' it, everyone know it was not an sugestion but the most powerful wizerd saying 'jump'.
even if she didn't really mean it like that.
the first time he personally made a radical choice (let an enemy live for now to fight another enemy ), and just take advange of others shananaghs or things he could not stop by the time he heard it, he lost piety and got depression...
ya, he is not a radical. not at heart anyways.
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I mean, this is Gotri's trait.
These are Belegar's relevant traits.
Gotri thinks what he's doing is Right. Belegar is... this is Belegar.
These are Belegar's relevant traits.
Gotri thinks what he's doing is Right. Belegar is... this is Belegar.
Resonant
Procrastinator Supreme
@BoneyM Was Regimand's year of birth ever asked before? Mainly curious due to wondering how old he was when he took Mathilde as an Apprentice.
A more pertinent question would be, what's the age range of Magisters taking on Apprentices in general, if there is a range at all?
Speaking of which, you said this regarding Wizard Lord ages:
A more pertinent question would be, what's the age range of Magisters taking on Apprentices in general, if there is a range at all?
Speaking of which, you said this regarding Wizard Lord ages:
Does Mathilde know how old LM Reiner Starke is, since it was mentioned he was one of the youngest Wizard Lords in recent history?
He's somewhere in his fifties, currently.
There's no real 'typical' age range. It varies widely from Wizard to Wizard and College to College.
I've been avoiding answering these kinds of questions because people get way too hung up on whether Mathilde is ahead of or behind some imaginary curve.
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- Finland
I seriously doubt that any wizard being silly is going to be reasonable when grumpy dorf comes and tells them to cut it out.
Many people live in places they don't like.
Belegar just happens to be one of them.
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Just retroactively put it in our will if we die.
That way belegar still has a way to fulfil what he sees as a debt.
oh yeah speaking of wills.
@BoneyM you've stated before that mystical ulgu doesn't strengthen boundaries, really focuses more on the fuzzy space between things...
Burning shadows fuzzing up the boundary between the air and the targets skin to create the acid like effect and what not.
Could we use that to create conditional's by sort of fuzzing the states of two objects together so that when one changes the other does as well?
For example Use it to tie "Mathilde being alive" to "This box is locked"
So that as long as we are alive the box will stay locked, and when we die it will open?
Stuff like that!
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Mopman43
Mountain-Hermit of Nitpeak
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We'll be voting on the Boon once the Okral leave- that's this turn. So we'll be asking for it before Mathilde leaves for Karag Dum.
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Younger than I expected. If he's ~55 and picked us up when we were ~10, he was around thirty then, so probably a fairly fresh Magister.
We are now more experienced than Regimand was when he first found us. Gosh. If magic parents are like real parents, he's going to start hinting to us about grandapprentices real soon
Not without also fuzzing the two physical objects in question into an undifferentiated puddle on the floor.