There's been justification that Panoramia fans try to conflate/equate her achievements with Mathilde's, which detractors say is unfair and untrue. While it might be wanking Panoramia a bit, it's generally in good fun and not meant to be taken too seriously when we do so with Mathilde's actions as well.
The point where detractors tend to gloss over is that oftentimes, debates revolving around Panoramia tend to tarnish or downplay or drag down her reputation, attacks on her personality or desires, and overall creates a tone of disappointment and wallowing in the thread.
For what it's worth, as a mostly thread lurker, I agree with Boney that I get discouraged from reading the discussion whenever these debates about Panoramia come up, it just becomes depressing to follow.
Sure, some people might think Panoramia is boring as a character, or dislike that she won the Romance vote, or don't want Romance at all. However, I often keep those types of opinions to myself as a lurker, because they're really not conducive to constructive discussion.
While I am in no way advocating for suppressing discussion, I wish there was more thought put when posting and what merits discussion vs what's simply a rant or 'spam content.'
Not that my opinion is important, but just wanted to put my own thoughts out.
A common problem with romance in quests is that people try to make the romance take over all aspects of the rest of the quest, shoehorning the romantic partner into more and more things, or worse, wanting to devote more and more time to supporting the romantic partners perceived IC objectives or to their benefit.
Gonna interject here, while this might be generally true, I don't believe most people
intentionally devote effort into, "
shoehorning a romantic partner" into all aspects of a quest, rather a byproduct of reader interest influencing the QM's priorities.
To specify a recent example of the Wizard Wrangler, the discussion got sidetracked into
Who was best suited for the position, if Panoramia was even competent, etc.
However, the original sentiment was to create a continuity for,
what certain people believed at the time, an important job while we were gone. I don't think most people minded who got the job so long as Mathilde handled it before leaving, otherwise it felt irresponsible.
Yes, the thread quickly latched onto the idea of Panoramia being appointed, as you say she's somewhat popular, but it's really disingenuous to
immediately tar any mentions of her to be under the motivation of Romance or relationships. Why the heck were people jumping straight into accusations of Nepotism back then?
If anything, it's the
dislike of Panoramia that constantly gets "shoehorned" into any discussion involving her, which is very obvious with how controversial opinions are always thrown about, constantly emphasizing how she
isn't special and shouldn't get
perceived special treatment, when that wasn't even the point.
EDIT: a word 'Perceived.'
