- Location
- Finland
Shovel talk? Is this the cliche "you hurt my baby and i will murder you" macho posturing?
Because if so, not, not really.
Regimand seems lot smarter than that, and also aware that Mathilde can handle her own stuff.
Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
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Because if so, not, not really.
Regimand seems lot smarter than that, and also aware that Mathilde can handle her own stuff.
So this got covered up by the romance vote.
... Holy Shit, did we just accidentally stumbled upon a clue to the last movements of fucking Alcadizaar the Conqueror! or at least information. enough to start looking in the right place for more clues?!!
IC: Mathy doesn't really know the significance of this, and so doesn't have a reason to go out of her way to find out more right now.
Meta: Want Want Want Want Want Want Want Want Want.... (Jyn doesn't stop for 10 minutes.)
- Location
- New Brunswick, NJ
- Pronouns
- He/Him/His
Could you explain the significance to me, a dumbass who knows nothing?
I approve of editing the last panel, but you really ought to have turned the Dragon white too.A reminder that The Dragon is, in fact, a huge nerd.
I second this.
Aegon Targaryen
Dragonking of Fuyuki
- Location
- Romania
I am not Jyn, so I can't know what his line of thought is, but I suspect it's because Alcadizaar is the guy who killed Nagash.
Ericwinter
Definitely not a Skaven Infiltrator
- Location
- America
Well obviously, that's why it's still hilarious, but I would still expect him to, for example, go digging up any and all information he can and make it clear to Mathilde at least that he's still got her back if she needs it. Because even if you completely trust someone to handle a problem should it come up, family—in my experience at least—can and will still be there to catch you if you fall, just in case.
I could also see Ranald doing something to make it clear he's watching too, being our best friend and all.
Sir_Travelsalot
Never wakes up tired.
- Location
- At Home
Also someone who had the Crown of Sorcery in their possession for a time, which is also something to be excited about, I'd think.
the last (and arguably greatest) of the Priest Kings. (Time of Legends: Nagash Immortal and the core tomb king books)
we know that the Fellblade eventually killed him, but we also know that it wasn't quick.
if he left anything between that time and when he crocked hidden somewhere, artefacts, enchantments... a journal...
people like the idea of divine magic right?, because if anyone (who wasn't an asshole) know about divine magic, it was this guy.
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- She/Her
Alcadizaar didn't know magic in the army books. Settra was the only tomb king to know magic in those. I'm sure Time of Legends did some kind of pointless retcon about though.
- Location
- Greece
A reminder that The Dragon is, in fact, a huge nerd.
I know the dragon is the villain in this story because skyrim plot and all, but every time I read this I can't help but sympathize with/root for the dragon.
The Grey College is the one with judicious amounts of paranoia slathered over their every moment, who follow the school of "Two can keep a secret if one of them is dead (and the living one takes steps to keep the dead one in that state)".
So, uh, under the hypothetical case where someone in the Grey College did have a secret they would kill to keep a monopoly on, the teaching process would go a lot like, "Now that you've mastered these techniques that must be kept so secret anybody who learns them must be murdered, your task is to survive my attempts to murder you for learning this secret." Or just not get taught ever, but that's less funny to imagine.
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- She/Her
OOC we always knew that he ended up near Mourkain though cause that is how Kadon found the Crown of Sorcery. I get that Mathilde learning this IC is good for archelolgy but I don't think it is as huge as you seem to feel in-universe.
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- Finland
The appropriate response in that situation for the dragon would have been to go "yep, i am" bite of the head of the dragonborn and continue with "still a dragon".
he was never really depicted as a wizard, but all Priests-kings are... well, Priest-kings...
and he was the (second after settra) of them.
Who's to say he didn't? I mean, he obviously walked away from that. But that doesn't mean the cruel wounds inflicted will be healed.
It is possible to be a priest without casting ability. It ultimately just means that religious and political authority is held by the same person.
Incidentally, I'm pretty sure the pries-kings were considered priests of all the gods, which means they probably can't be priest-casters, or they'd risk dhar.
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'Kadon, an old man at that time, found the dead body of Alcadizaar at the banks of the Blind River in the melting spring snow.[1a] Reckognizing the Nehekharan as a king, he ordered the construction of a large barrow for him. '
he has a tomb built for a king.
you bury kings with fancy shit.
Uh guys...it wasn't even all that subtle?
The Hedgewise are the secret Grey Order associated Mystery Cult who practice Hedge Magic, deal in 'petty superstitions' and are allowed in certain circumstances to pass as Grey Wizards in order to attend official events, and definitely are illegal and on the list of people that the Grey Order should be hunting down.
The Grey Order doesn't tend to have many "will kill you if you leak this" secrets handed out, because of intensive compartmentalization, if a secret cannot afford to be leaked, nobody knows about it except for people directly complicit in it.
Melkoth casually tossing his Miasma around lol
The Hedgewise are the secret Grey Order associated Mystery Cult who practice Hedge Magic, deal in 'petty superstitions' and are allowed in certain circumstances to pass as Grey Wizards in order to attend official events, and definitely are illegal and on the list of people that the Grey Order should be hunting down.
The Grey Order doesn't tend to have many "will kill you if you leak this" secrets handed out, because of intensive compartmentalization, if a secret cannot afford to be leaked, nobody knows about it except for people directly complicit in it.
And also things like this I suppose.
Melkoth casually tossing his Miasma around lol
- Location
- France
[X] [ROMANCE] Magister Johann
[X] Belegar, to discuss the northern Karaks and the Expedition.
[X] Kasmir, to see how he's keeping himself busy in Sylvania.
[X] Eike Hochschild, to get to know your future business partner.
[X] Belegar, to discuss the northern Karaks and the Expedition.
[X] Kasmir, to see how he's keeping himself busy in Sylvania.
[X] Eike Hochschild, to get to know your future business partner.
- Location
- Chicago
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- She/They
Reposting, though he is no longer quite my favorite- that would be Roswita:
"For those who don't like the options, let me make a pitch for my favorite: Johann.
Johann starts as this kinda sketchy guy we meet while he's training himself up with a pistol, and then one of the other mages shows a grudge. He's background until things settle. Then he gets interesting.
She played a playful gambit on him as a bit of revenge- the attitude was certainly skewed towards making him eat his broccoli, and she pulled it off so he was never quite sure if he was threatened or not. So now she has the upper hand and he conceeds graciously, and she comes to work closely with him over the years; a bond forged of thrilling adventures in the dark against the foes of humanity, two against all the under empire might throw against them.
Culminating, of course, in the final, whirlwind of an adventure that had a delicious pause- just as Clan Skyre is imploding in gas and blood behind them, she touched his hand briefly for a spell, than turns shyly aside so she cannot see him, revealed in her magelight as he dresses. Then the hurricane, then final, utter victory at her hand.
He invited her to the innermost sanctum of his craft then- to witness the peak of his attempts at becoming more, something more central to him than almost anything else, and he failed in front of her, burning away his sight.
She reached out to him. Reminds him that there are more ways than he has tried. Spent time honing his skill and perception of magic until he could almost see again, and fight again unafraid.
Now, he is posed to try again, gambling his empty eyesockets against worse that might come, and again she will stand at his side.
Why shouldn't that be a love story?"
Here for this! Such return to our homeland, much hidden depth!
On one hand, pretty sure this is an exaggeration, but on the other, that sorry of personality might be exactly what Mathilde needs long-term? Someone who can teach her how to relax and slow down?
This is the best and cutest kind of advocacy. More pro-dragon arguments like this please!
The secret of Ulgu Time Manipulation is that Time is not a continuum I think?
Time, as modern physics probing at the idea is increasingly finding out, is really just a series of observers. If nothing is there, nothing is happening.
On the other hand I suppose people who think of time as continuous are likely to do some horrible, horrible things to the continuum that doesn't exist until they start interacting with it like it does....
Time, as modern physics probing at the idea is increasingly finding out, is really just a series of observers. If nothing is there, nothing is happening.
On the other hand I suppose people who think of time as continuous are likely to do some horrible, horrible things to the continuum that doesn't exist until they start interacting with it like it does....
Omegahugger
Inattentive Idiot
Indeed, the Crown of Sorcery would make for a lovely back-up hat.
- Location
- Argentina
A reminder that The Dragon is, in fact, a huge nerd.
Mathilde and the Dragon eating ice cream while reading books together is the best pro-dragon argument we will ever get and I definitely hope that we at least manage to become really friendly with him.
I don't want to argue Romance anymore; it is what it is. So in the interest of looking at a different topic, here's a preliminary plan for Turn 32.
[*] Prelim Turn 32 Plan (uses one overwork action)
- [*][MAX] Allow him to spend all his time on his own preparations.
- [*][JOHANN] Allow him to spend all his time on his own preparations.
- [*] DUCK: Attempt to recruit Esbern and Seija and their compatriots of the Knights of Taal's Fury.
- [*] EIC: Insert agents into a particular province, cult, company, or institution to start gathering their secrets. (Border Princes)
-[*] Attempt to complete creation of spell: Fog Path
--[*] Request "the Artificer" (M.Grey) to assist for (5 college favor?)
-[*] Enchant Robes with Aethyric Armour including Spell Mastery - Indefatigable
--[*] Utilize "the Artificer" (M.Grey)
--[*] COIN: The Gambler.
-[*] Attempt to recruit assistance for the Karag Dum Expedition. (Karak Azul Runesmiths and Light College Anti-Chaos specialists)
-[*] Hire a trainer to come to Eight Peaks and teach you: Kislev Diplomacy
-[*] Branulhune's ability to disappear and reappear at a thought allows entirely new forms of combat. Try to create them.
-[*][PENTHOUSE] Add preservation Runes to your library: -4 Dwarf Favour, can be paid for with book budget DF for next two purchase periods.
-[*][SERENITY] Warp Lightning observations - shared with Adela
To take this in order:
1. Max and Johann actions should be uncontroversial.
2. Making a play for the Knights of Taal's Fury seems uncontroversial considering how close they were to winning last time.
3. I'd like to get more out of the EIC as an intelligence-gathering organization. Marienburg may be a top priority, but they also probably employ spymasters who would rip the amateur-hour efforts of our merchant-spies apart. The Border Princes seem like a good target instead. They're our neighbors, so getting the first news on anything going on there could be valuable. They're also on the Empire's borders, so intelligence about them is useful to the Empire. And if we get caught, big deal. It's not a "spying on Imperial institutions" type scandal.
4. We have to complete the Fog Path spell, but I'd argue that Melkoth is not the person whose help we actually want. Instead we should go to The Artificer! I quote from their position description, "Responsible for studying the state-of-the-art when it comes to enchantment, rituals, or other large-scale applications of the Grey Magic". The beautiful thing is, this would apply to both Fog Path and enchanting our robes, because the Artificer is an expert in both large scale grey magic and enchantment.
Also, the Artificer is a Magister, not a Lord Magister, so they're cheaper. Though I suppse @BoneyM might declare that anyone on the Magisterial Council gets charged at LM rates, which would be fair enough.
5. Enchant robes with indefatigable mastery, making us tireless as dwarves. Seems useful! I do believe that's what everyone has been talking about for the robes, right? Again, use the Artificer on this one. (Assuming we didn't blow all our CF on a magic boom item.) I think we could argue about whether to put the Coin on Fog Path or on this one... what are people's opinions?
6. Recruit runesmiths and anti-chaos specialists. Self-explanatory why those are useful.
7. I recognize this one may get pushback, but we're already at 1/2 on Kislev diplomacy. Given that we're going to be working closely with an Ice Witch representative, I think there's an argument that it's worth an action to "grease the wheels" and make sure we understand her culture and where she's coming from, as well as the possibility in smoothing over any problems in the early part of the expedition.
8. I agonized over the last action a lot, but we have been told that getting the style started could lead to insights during the actual Expedition.
9. Finally, do some easy stuff with the Penthouse and get that second paper with Adela cleared away.
All of this might not catch on, but I'd ask potential plan makers to consider including the EIC idea and "getting the Artificer to help" in your plans.
[*] Prelim Turn 32 Plan (uses one overwork action)
- [*][MAX] Allow him to spend all his time on his own preparations.
- [*][JOHANN] Allow him to spend all his time on his own preparations.
- [*] DUCK: Attempt to recruit Esbern and Seija and their compatriots of the Knights of Taal's Fury.
- [*] EIC: Insert agents into a particular province, cult, company, or institution to start gathering their secrets. (Border Princes)
-[*] Attempt to complete creation of spell: Fog Path
--[*] Request "the Artificer" (M.Grey) to assist for (5 college favor?)
-[*] Enchant Robes with Aethyric Armour including Spell Mastery - Indefatigable
--[*] Utilize "the Artificer" (M.Grey)
--[*] COIN: The Gambler.
-[*] Attempt to recruit assistance for the Karag Dum Expedition. (Karak Azul Runesmiths and Light College Anti-Chaos specialists)
-[*] Hire a trainer to come to Eight Peaks and teach you: Kislev Diplomacy
-[*] Branulhune's ability to disappear and reappear at a thought allows entirely new forms of combat. Try to create them.
-[*][PENTHOUSE] Add preservation Runes to your library: -4 Dwarf Favour, can be paid for with book budget DF for next two purchase periods.
-[*][SERENITY] Warp Lightning observations - shared with Adela
To take this in order:
1. Max and Johann actions should be uncontroversial.
2. Making a play for the Knights of Taal's Fury seems uncontroversial considering how close they were to winning last time.
3. I'd like to get more out of the EIC as an intelligence-gathering organization. Marienburg may be a top priority, but they also probably employ spymasters who would rip the amateur-hour efforts of our merchant-spies apart. The Border Princes seem like a good target instead. They're our neighbors, so getting the first news on anything going on there could be valuable. They're also on the Empire's borders, so intelligence about them is useful to the Empire. And if we get caught, big deal. It's not a "spying on Imperial institutions" type scandal.
4. We have to complete the Fog Path spell, but I'd argue that Melkoth is not the person whose help we actually want. Instead we should go to The Artificer! I quote from their position description, "Responsible for studying the state-of-the-art when it comes to enchantment, rituals, or other large-scale applications of the Grey Magic". The beautiful thing is, this would apply to both Fog Path and enchanting our robes, because the Artificer is an expert in both large scale grey magic and enchantment.
Also, the Artificer is a Magister, not a Lord Magister, so they're cheaper. Though I suppse @BoneyM might declare that anyone on the Magisterial Council gets charged at LM rates, which would be fair enough.
5. Enchant robes with indefatigable mastery, making us tireless as dwarves. Seems useful! I do believe that's what everyone has been talking about for the robes, right? Again, use the Artificer on this one. (Assuming we didn't blow all our CF on a magic boom item.) I think we could argue about whether to put the Coin on Fog Path or on this one... what are people's opinions?
6. Recruit runesmiths and anti-chaos specialists. Self-explanatory why those are useful.
7. I recognize this one may get pushback, but we're already at 1/2 on Kislev diplomacy. Given that we're going to be working closely with an Ice Witch representative, I think there's an argument that it's worth an action to "grease the wheels" and make sure we understand her culture and where she's coming from, as well as the possibility in smoothing over any problems in the early part of the expedition.
8. I agonized over the last action a lot, but we have been told that getting the style started could lead to insights during the actual Expedition.
9. Finally, do some easy stuff with the Penthouse and get that second paper with Adela cleared away.
All of this might not catch on, but I'd ask potential plan makers to consider including the EIC idea and "getting the Artificer to help" in your plans.
Omegahugger
Inattentive Idiot
Do you think maybe the Ice Dragon can make its own ice cream with magic?