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If we could bring both literature and lingerie, I'd bet on having a better chance. ;)
To be fair, once the Spider Silk stuff is available in K8P I am pretty sure that the fist things that Mathilde is going to renovate for Silk is her underwear and her bed-sheets ...

If only because silk is sooo much more comfortable and smoother than most Medieval-Early Modern cotton or linen fabrics...
 
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What actually convinces most Battle Wizards to take the job over the other path? Like, 'they crazy' works for one or two. But are there other stuff that makes the job more attractive? Like student loan forgiveness, life insurance and a bag of gold for your family etc etc?

Power now instead of power maybe later, they get a guarantee on wielding the most powerful magics the Empire has at its disposal straight out of their apprenticeship and if you get through it you get a shot at being Lord Magister without having to be some merchant's errand runner and dogsbody like most journeymen do. Many of them probably imagine themselves lord magister right up until they blow up. These are very young wizards after all, a sense that they are special and can beat the odds is to be expected.
 
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To be fair, once the Spider Silk stuff is available in K8P I am pretty sure that the fist things that Mathilde is going to renovate for Silk is her underwear and her bed-sheets ...

If only because silk is sooo much more comfortable and smoother than most Medieval-Early Modern cotton or linen fabrics...

Mathilde got the silk socks money.
 
Power now instead of power maybe later, they get a guarantee on wielding the most powerful magics the Empire has at its disposal straight out of their apprenticeship and if you get through it you get a shot at being Lord Magister without having to be some merchant's errand runner and dogsbody like most journeymen do. Many of them probably imagine themselves lord magister right up until they blow up. These are very young wizards after all, a sense that they are special and can beat the odds is to be expected.

Isn't it also that most Battle Wizards never had a chance to control their magic anyways? The people who go into it are all power and zero control anyways, so they either go Perpetual or try to get as much done as possible before blowing up.
 
All power and zero control is called daemon bait. BM requires good control to even attempt.

I was always under the impression that Battle Magic worked differently from usual magic, being so unsafe that you can just open yourself to it and mainline it without things getting terribly much more dangerous than it would be if you were a great mage and attempted to control it. That way the colleges don't need tons of journeymen that start their carreer with Magic 7 to fill out the ranks of their Battle Wizards.
 
Honestly...

We joke a lot about how unsubtle Mathilde is and how that makes her stand out compared to a "normal" Grey Wizard, but she's as quiet as a mouse compared to Grey Battle Wizards. Pit of Shades is many things, but "subtle" is not one of them.
Grey Battle Wizards follow the school of thought that if there's no surviving witnesses it's still technically stealth.
 
I was always under the impression that Battle Magic worked differently from usual magic, being so unsafe that you can just open yourself to it and mainline it without things getting terribly much more dangerous than it would be if you were a great mage and attempted to control it. That way the colleges don't need tons of journeymen that start their carreer with Magic 7 to fill out the ranks of their Battle Wizards.

No, you need magic seven to cast Battle Magic and that is and aggregate of power and control.
 
I was always under the impression that Battle Magic worked differently from usual magic, being so unsafe that you can just open yourself to it and mainline it without things getting terribly much more dangerous than it would be if you were a great mage and attempted to control it. That way the colleges don't need tons of journeymen that start their carreer with Magic 7 to fill out the ranks of their Battle Wizards.
I don't believe that's the case, no.

To my understanding, when an Apprentice decides to become a Battle Wizard, they're given a large amount of special training that leaves them able to cast Battle Magic but leaves them mostly useless for everything else. As well as the fact that they devote all the time that they're not casting Battle Magic to prepare for the next time they'll cast Battle Magic.
 
It's not actually known what happens to things dropped into the Pit of Shades. That they're out of the immediate picture is sufficient for it to be very useful on a battlefield, but it's not considered anywhere near sure enough to dump Vampires into.
Have there been any cases of a vampire dropped into a pit of shades coming back yet? Or any cases of them being dropped in the first place?
 
Have there been any cases of a vampire dropped into a pit of shades coming back yet? Or any cases of them being dropped in the first place?
The Empire has only had wizards and thus Pit of Shades for about two centuries. That isn't really enough time for any statistically significant data when it comes to vampires. Even if no vampires have come back all that proves is that no vampires have come back yet.
 
If any vampires do come back from a pit of shades it might be worth going to a little extra trouble to ask them about it.
 
If any vampires do come back from a pit of shades it might be worth going to a little extra trouble to ask them about it.

if they have escaped they probably just cast "Pit of Shades" while inside the pit of shades.

Creating a portal back to the regular world.

Remember, Vampires, unlike regular humans, can use all but one of the winds of magic with no problems and are even more immortal than the elves, so they can use ulgu just fine no matter what their specialty is, and have all the time required to master it.

We are really fucking lucky for our belt, or alkaharad would have mopped the floor with us, be it in melee or magic.
 
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if they have escaped they probably just cast "Pit of Shades" while inside the pit of shades.

Creating a portal back to the regular world.

Remember, Vampires, unlike humans, can use all but one of the winds of magic with no problems and are even more immortal than the elves, so they can use ulgu just fine no matter what their specialty is, and have all the time required to master it.
And yet despite all these advantages they only ruled a backwater. Insanity has it's disadvantages.
 
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