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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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DarkLight140 said:
That post is talking about enchanting items to get +1 Magic, not getting +1 Magic via an Arcane Mark. Thanks, though.
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Oh i'd thought you were talking about the staff.

I couldn't find anything on Arcane Marks. I think he said that if you rolled that one it would count as a plus one for Ulgu just like we have a trait that only counts for magic but not our wind, however I didn't find anything specific.

At any rate the only thing I do remember is that much like masteries you can't really game it.
 
[X] Ulthar's Rangers and Petrescu's marksmen are ranging far to ensure that any greenskin that claps eyes on the Expedition don't live to tell the tale. Assist them.
[X] Have Ulthar handpick his best sharpshooters to be equipped with envenomed bolts.
[X] Help Esbern teach Seija to Dispel.
[X] Test their skills in battle.
[X] Ask him to teach Johann to Dispel.
[X] Introduce him to the dwarven smiths so he can try to convince them to teach him.
[X] Help him find a place with the dwarf artillery crews so that he can supplement their abilities in combat.
[X] Purchase the Helldrake scales (100 gc).
[X] Purchase the strange Lustrian eggs (200 gc).

The point I was making is that men are called Magisters and when a woman reaches that rank they are called Magisterix which is the female form of magister.
 
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Stewart9 said:
The point I was making is that men are called Magisters and when a woman reaches that rank they are called Magisterix which is the female form of magister.
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That's a terrible title and I say we never use it again. We've started using Magister. We are a Magister.

Z000 said:
why does learning Necromancy make you evil power hungry any way ?
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Aside from disturbing corpses and forcing them to serve you eternally in death? Apart from binding the souls of the dead to you and preventing them from passing to their reward? Other than perverting the very cycle of life and death?

Dhar.

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Looking at the vote, I wonder what if anything Max will ask of us in return for teaching Johann?
 
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Magister is the rank first and a title second and it is has only been used once to introduce us, plus what is so terrible about using the proper form of the title. I for one think Magisterix sounds cool. Also for some reason the tally ate my votes twice so I am adding them to this post.
[X] Ulthar's Rangers and Petrescu's marksmen are ranging far to ensure that any greenskin that claps eyes on the Expedition don't live to tell the tale. Assist them.
[X] Have Ulthar handpick his best sharpshooters to be equipped with envenomed bolts.
[X] Help Esbern teach Seija to Dispel.
[X] Test their skills in battle.
[X] Ask him to teach Johann to Dispel.
[X] Introduce him to the dwarven smiths so he can try to convince them to teach him.
[X] Help him find a place with the dwarf artillery crews so that he can supplement their abilities in combat.
[X] Purchase the Helldrake scales (100 gc).
[X] Purchase the strange Lustrian eggs (200 gc).
 
DiceOfStupidity said:
@BoneyM, one simplest design for potential 'Warrior of Fog' spells is information gathering, for which Ulgu is perfectly suited for. To make things like that easier, reflective surpaces would be useful. For example two identical hand mirrors, and a spell that link their surfaces - used to quickly pass the informations from scouts to command.

Would it be possible to Mathilde to buy few of such small mirrors before leaving Barak Varr? To have something to experiment on?
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There's some fairly significant assumptions built into that train of thought. You've done no delving into the possibilities of the Warrior of Fog trait, so you don't know what materials might be suited.

Z000 said:
why does learning Necromancy make you evil power hungry any way ?
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It involves the manipulation of Dhar. It uses Shyish as a go-between so it's not as rapidly degenerative as handling Dhar directly, but it still adds up.

Beyond that, there's the usual maxim about power corrupting, and the fact that it means performing some pretty major blasphemies upon the bodies and souls of your victims.
 
Stewart9 said:
Magister is the rank first and a title second and it is has only been used once to introduce us, plus what is so terrible about using the proper form of the title. I for one think Magisterix sounds cool.
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In Latin, Magister is the masculine form while Magistrix (you've added an e) is the feminine. However, Reikspiel isn't Latin and Mathilde has already been addressed as Magister Mathilde Weber. Women and men are clearly both titled Magister here. Magistrix may be used in your quote, but Elspeth von Draken is not a character in this quest.
 
Spend time with the Council of War:
[X] Marshal Titus Muggins

Esbern and Seija of the Amber Order
[X] Test their skills in battle.

Johann of the Gold Order
[X] Keep tabs on his interactions with the dwarves, making sure he's not fishing for information that the dwarves want to keep for themselves.

Purchases from Barak Varr
[X] Purchase the title of a Border Princess (300 gc)
[X] Do not purchase the Helldrake scales.
[X] Do not purchase the strange Lustrian eggs.



We don't need to use this straight away. We can get the army later. Setting up a petty Princedom would be fun once we've built a reputation.
 
ForgeWorld added the e and the word magister has been used in quest to address Mathilde all of once. You could make the same argument about Reikspiel not being Latin when it comes to magister as a title instead of master which is the english form. Plus what difference does Elsepth being a character in the quest or not have to do with what the proper title of a female Imperial wizard of magister rank is because magisterix is what all females of the rank are called.

It was one of the greatest Dwarf holds and in some ways rivaled the Everpeak in wealth.
 
Horium said:
@BoneyM
A lore question: For purposes of this quest, how significant of a hold is Karak Eight Peaks?
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At its height it was one of the most important holds, especially since it survived the Time of Woes. When it fell it took Karak Izril and Karak Drazh with it, and the only reason Karak Azul survived is from the influx of refugees from the other holds bolstered its numbers. But it's been lost for three thousand years, so its effective significance today is nil.
 
Hm.

@BoneyM , a question: why do dwarfs want to recolonize K8P (or any other lost hold for that matter) if their population is in decline? Doesn't population decline means that they already have enough living space in the existing holds?

Or is it a cultural significance thing?
 
ctulhuslp said:
Hm.

@BoneyM , a question: why do dwarfs want to recolonize K8P (or any other lost hold for that matter) if their population is in decline? Doesn't population decline means that they already have enough living space in the existing holds?

Or is it a cultural significance thing?
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They're Dwarves, just avenging the grudge is enough for some of them. But there is a very real chance that there is a lot of lost artifacts and knowledge still locked away in there even after all these years. Hell I would not be surprised if deep within the hold there is a colony of dwarves still holding out.
 
ctulhuslp said:
Hm.

@BoneyM , a question: why do dwarfs want to recolonize K8P (or any other lost hold for that matter) if their population is in decline? Doesn't population decline means that they already have enough living space in the existing holds?

Or is it a cultural significance thing?
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1) Being of a Clan from a fallen dwarfhold puts you as far down in dwarf society as you can be without being outright outcasts.
2) The fall of a Dwarfhold is quite possibly the worst Grudge of them all, and dwarves as a people would choose settling grudges over safety every day of the week and twice on Festag.
3) The tombs of the fallen holds were sealed before they were abandoned, and the honoured dead cannot be abandoned, no matter how long it takes to recover the holds.
4) The treasuries were also sealed, enough said.
 
Soooo question. Is there any inUniverse reason for the population decline of the dwarves? It makes no sense. They're never described as starving and they're generally more robust than humans. Why aren't they reproducing like rabbits? Is this a Tolkien holdover of "Dwarves must be on the decline! Their holds must be lost!"
 
Fried brain said:
Soooo question. Is there any inUniverse reason for the population decline of the dwarves? It makes no sense. They're never described as starving and they're generally more robust than humans. Why aren't they reproducing like rabbits? Is this a Tolkien holdover of "Dwarves must be on the decline! Their holds must be lost!"
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Dwarf mind set make me think that they tend to die over really dumb shit early on, those that survive then got into more shit and get kill and keep repeating until they become too BS to kill
 
Regarding all this discussion on increasing Mathilde's powerlevel: Is that really something you guys want? I voted for the military campaign, but not because I think that Mathilde is a military person. I would much prefer she return to become sneaky sneak again. Infiltrating places, seeking out hidden information, finding and killing corrupt wizards, court intrigue, all that.

Gaining more raw power is something that may happen incidentally, but I see no reason to make that a goal in itself.
 
While the population overall is declining, it's not universal. The younger holds of the Black and Grey Mountains - Hirn, Izor, Norn and Angazhar - are growing in population, wealth and prestige with every year. Barak Varr thrives and projects power across the Border Princes region and the rivers therein to link the young holds to the capital of Karaz-a-Karak and the technological marvels of Zhufbar. Zhufbar has been breaking even in population and growing in wealth for the past few centuries, and that's likely to improve even further with Sylvania weakened. And there are dwarf quarters in some cities of the Empire and in Tilea that are large enough to count as dwarfholds in their own right.

It's the old, major holds that were the population centres of the Dwarven Empire in its height that are locked in death spirals - Karak Kadrin, the Slayer Keep, for obvious reasons, with even their Kings seeking an honourable doom rather than a prosperous future. Karak Azul, isolated and alone far to the south of the realms of Man, though that may chance with the reclamation of Eight Peaks. And Karaz-a-Karak, the capital, which bleeds itself white year after year to prop up the rest of the Dwarven Empire and to try to settle grudges accumulated over thousands of years.
 
Fried brain said:
Soooo question. Is there any inUniverse reason for the population decline of the dwarves? It makes no sense. They're never described as starving and they're generally more robust than humans. Why aren't they reproducing like rabbits? Is this a Tolkien holdover of "Dwarves must be on the decline! Their holds must be lost!"
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Depression on a racial level from the grudges unfulfilled seems the primary cause. With dwarf perfectionism as a big secondary one, since the replacement rate for losses is terrible.
 
torac said:
Regarding all this discussion on increasing Mathilde's powerlevel: Is that really something you guys want? I voted for the military campaign, but not because I think that Mathilde is a military person. I would much prefer she return to become sneaky sneak again. Infiltrating places, seeking out hidden information, finding and killing corrupt wizards, court intrigue, all that.

Gaining more raw power is something that may happen incidentally, but I see no reason to make that a goal in itself.
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I just love dwarfs and would gladly go for any option which includes them.
 
ctulhuslp said:
Ah.
Personally, I am not terribly enthused by the option, but eh, we will see.
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Personally I see it as the best way to stay in one place for a couple turns doing some research and build up a lot of college favor in the process. Plus it would give us a pretty good place to store our more sensitive items without relying on secrecy.
 
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