- Location
- Austria
mmmmmaybe?
We do need a base of operations, true...
I wonder.
How hard will it be to receive dwarven citizenship and set up shop there, in retaken K8P?
Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
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mmmmmaybe?
We do need a base of operations, true...
I wonder.
How hard will it be to receive dwarven citizenship and set up shop there, in retaken K8P?
- Location
- Germany
Not much.mmmmmaybe?
We do need a base of operations, true...
I wonder.
How hard will it be to receive dwarven citizenship and set up shop there, in retaken K8P?
Even getting a post as advisor is in the cards, just living in a Hold has been an option since Silvania.
DocMatoi
Theoretical Lover of Girls
- Location
- within 2 hours of the White House
- Pronouns
- They/Them
We should marry Wilhelmina
Sinsystems
Patron Librarian
We'd need to transport our Snake Box there though and it would put us rather far away from our allies and assets in Stirland. Not saying it isn't an option but I would prefer to remain in the empire.mmmmmaybe?
We do need a base of operations, true...
I wonder.
How hard will it be to receive dwarven citizenship and set up shop there, in retaken K8P?
At the very least I'd prefer us to work out of one of the holds closer to home, preferably the one we are selling niter to.
Omegahugger
Inattentive Idiot
But this does mean we could potentially get a dinosaur familiar.
Oh hey, guess what we are immune to now?
I definitely take this as an unspoken approval from the most old-fashioned of dwarves for us to fully jump down the necromancy tree.
A: She's 28. There's still plenty of time before she risks running out of time, and that's assuming no Jade Mage bullshit changes things.
B: As far as Mathilde entering relationships goes, I refer you to my response to Alliterate.
- Location
- Austria
Yeah, I recall something to such effect. And K8P would be a nice place if we help taking it.
Yeah, this sounds fun.
Sinsystems
Patron Librarian
I'm more in favor of Anton personally.
I personally do not want to see Mathilde in a relationship not only is it a massive action sink but it's also not a direction in want to take the character in and often arguments over relationships poison a thread.
@BoneyM if after the end of this campaign we do decide to set up a branch college, how would we justify that to the grey college, as in what advantage does a branch college provide the actual grey order with, is it a situation where we'd say something like "I want to set up a branch college in Stirland so we can monitor Sylvania and detect any Necromancers before they arise"?
@BoneyM if after the end of this campaign we do decide to set up a branch college, how would we justify that to the grey college, as in what advantage does a branch college provide the actual grey order with, is it a situation where we'd say something like "I want to set up a branch college in Stirland so we can monitor Sylvania and detect any Necromancers before they arise"?
DarkLight140
Credit to Team
- Location
- Lost in my thoughts
I'm not BoneyM, but...
Building up a branch campus is arguably the most significant contribution that Mathilde could realistically make to the welfare of the Grey College as an institution. It's not just about having an outpost to monitor Sylvania; the Colleges try to build these all around the Empire when they get the right intersection of political support, wealth, and valid excuses to pull it off. They are very important when it comes to building political power and influence, establishing and maintaining ties with nobles, managing intelligence networks, and supporting journeymen.
Travel is quite slow, after all, and by the time word gets to Altdorf and back it's possible that it will be far too late for decisions to be made and actions taken to solve whatever the latest crisis is. Elector Counts or even lesser nobles needing to send to Altdorf and hear back in order to get magical support makes it difficult for them to consider such support reliable or worth building relationships with, as well. The Colleges try to get Wizard Lords to run their most significant branches specifically because of the massive impracticality of crossing two or three provinces in order to provide such support or establish such relationships, which means in turn that the Wizard Lords stuck out there want to build up the branch's resources for conducting their own research and handling their local problems, which gives them more resources to use on those problems so people turn to them more often, and it basically spirals outward until they're running their College's operations for everywhere significantly closer to them than Altdorf out of their own miniature College.
If we care about the Grey College's power as a political institution in the Empire, their general ability to exert influence in Stirland, and trying to generally shift the reputation of wizards as a whole in a positive direction, a branch campus is the way to go.
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That's a good point that Darklight raises.
I am personally very interested not only in Mathilde's development as a character, but also in raising her impact on a strategic scale, and just making her an another magical murder-blender just isn't satisfying for me.
Her being an asset on strategic level as a researcher, as a branch headmistress, as an advisor, an intrigue master or even a dwarf-diplomat, is much more to my taste.
I am personally very interested not only in Mathilde's development as a character, but also in raising her impact on a strategic scale, and just making her an another magical murder-blender just isn't satisfying for me.
Her being an asset on strategic level as a researcher, as a branch headmistress, as an advisor, an intrigue master or even a dwarf-diplomat, is much more to my taste.
- Location
- Norway
[X] Ulthar's Rangers and Petrescu's marksmen are ranging far to ensure that any greenskin that claps eyes on the Expedition don't live to tell the tale. Assist them.
[X] If any resistance does start to gather, they will be smashed apart by the very heavy cavalry of the Knightly Orders. Stand ready with them.
"Look at me, I'm both light and heavy cavalry at once!"
[X] Marksman Codrin Petrescu
[X] Marshal Titus Muggins
New friends from Stirland?
[X] Help Esbern teach Seija to Dispel.
[X] Ask him to teach Johann to Dispel.
Wizard corps prepare!
[X] Purchase the Helldrake scales (100 gc).
[ ] No opinion on eggs
[X] Do not purchase the title of a Border Princess.
And in regards to some of the ongoing discussion, a dwarf hold might be one of the best places to study Libris Mortis for a while, because I think dwarfs are likely to be actively disinterested if Mathilde puts up a "Wizarding in progress, keep out" sign on her room, where humans would be more inclined to poke around and see what the wizard is up to.
[X] If any resistance does start to gather, they will be smashed apart by the very heavy cavalry of the Knightly Orders. Stand ready with them.
"Look at me, I'm both light and heavy cavalry at once!"
[X] Marksman Codrin Petrescu
[X] Marshal Titus Muggins
New friends from Stirland?
[X] Help Esbern teach Seija to Dispel.
[X] Ask him to teach Johann to Dispel.
Wizard corps prepare!
[X] Purchase the Helldrake scales (100 gc).
[ ] No opinion on eggs
[X] Do not purchase the title of a Border Princess.
And in regards to some of the ongoing discussion, a dwarf hold might be one of the best places to study Libris Mortis for a while, because I think dwarfs are likely to be actively disinterested if Mathilde puts up a "Wizarding in progress, keep out" sign on her room, where humans would be more inclined to poke around and see what the wizard is up to.
- Location
- Memphis, TN
I hope you are prepared for Kragg the Grim to personally cave in Mathilde's skull when he finds out that she is using the artifact for necromancy.
I like our head as it is thank you very much
- Location
- France
How about we hunker down in our palace when we study the Liber Mortis?
The only other solution is doing it far away from any other wizards who might notice us experimenting. So if we're doing it while in the army, maybe we should do it while surrounded by Dwarves and while the other wizards are doing something else away from us.
Actually right now on the march is probably a safer time to study it (if not directly practice necromancy, that's stupid) than in Imperial territory where Witch hunters and passing wizards are a thing.
The only other solution is doing it far away from any other wizards who might notice us experimenting. So if we're doing it while in the army, maybe we should do it while surrounded by Dwarves and while the other wizards are doing something else away from us.
Actually right now on the march is probably a safer time to study it (if not directly practice necromancy, that's stupid) than in Imperial territory where Witch hunters and passing wizards are a thing.
- Location
- Austria
Dwarfplomacy sounds amazing.
Wizard being one of dwarfplomats seems like an amazing story in motion.
Omegahugger
Inattentive Idiot
Part of the appeal of going full second coming of Nagash is that silly things like lethal injuries and mortal blows stop being serious problems.I hope you are prepared for Kragg the Grim to personally cave in Mathilde's skull when he finds out that she is using the artifact for necromancy.
I like our head as it is thank you very much
I hope you are prepared for Kragg the Grim to personally cave in Mathilde's skull when he finds out that she is using the artifact for necromancy.
I like our head as it is thank you very much
Dwarfs are not what you would call masters of intrigue. They are the last people I'd worry about finding out.
Omegahugger
Inattentive Idiot
PArt of being a (successful) necromancer is living a long time, and if you live long enough the dwarves will inevitably find out. And while they might not be "masters of intrique", they are also the number one least forgiving race out of all of them. Which given the roster Warhammer has says quite a bit.
There are far from the last people I'd worry about. That title probably belongs to peoplelike the amazons, since they are both far away and relatively impotent.
EDIT: This is coumpounded by the fact that anyone wanting to move against Nagash!Mathilde would be well suited by bringing up her acts against the dwarves. We would probably give birth to one of the nastiest grudges humanly possible, short of taking down a hold ourselves.
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- Location
- Memphis, TN
Do you really want to test Kragg I would not put it past him to personally smash us to dust then burn the ashes
And Necromancy isn't the most subtle magic so I wouldn't bet on keeping it a secret forever.
- Location
- France
Sure, Necromancy isn't subtle. But we'd be spending ages just studying (and trying to understand) the theory first. Doing that will probably do great things for our direct magical power and versatility, and just doing the reading seems riskier among humans than dwarves.
Just to be clear I'm not really advocating the practice of necromancy just learning the theory.
- Location
- Memphis, TN
*Prays for live Stegadon egg*
The Dream man the Dream!!!
The Dream man the Dream!!!