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Oh, yeah, they absolutely do, it's just that high elves decide to be the good guys anyway.
All the elven factions decided that, actually. The difference is how they define good.

Dark Elves: Revenge against those who imposed unjust exile upon them.
High Elves: Preventing the annihilation of existence by the forces of Chaos.
Wood Elves: Preserving their home against the incursion of hostile powers.
 
Oh, yeah, they absolutely do, it's just that high elves decide to be the good guys anyway.
no, but wherein the lore did a Caledorian sacrifice themselves for a human peasant? in a TT book or a novel?

I just don't know what you're citing for that. even Teclis sometimes finds it hard to think the 'lesser' races lives matter on a one to one bases even when he knows he is being an ass.
 
no, but wherein the lore did a Caledorian sacrifice themselves for a human peasant? in a TT book or a novel?

I just don't know what you're citing for that. even Teclis sometimes finds it hard to think the 'lesser' races lives matter on a one to one bases even when he knows he is being an ass.
Can't remember where I read it. Ulthuan quest maybe?
 
what is weird is that its seems that the goodwill is generally returned by the elves.
I imagine that after a century of trying to police the world and keep it not dead, you come to appreciate it when a group does nothing but farm and offer you good food 90% of the time. It's a mix of Gandalf's feelings toward hobbits, with a splash of racist/classist "these people know how to live according to their station and don't get uppity" playing into the arrogance most elves have.
 
Asarnil is like the opposite of chill. He had the choice of saying sorry or facing permanent exile and he flipped them the bird and flew off because he was absurdly prideful even by the standards of Caledor, which is itself considered absurdly prideful by the other elves.

He's probably up there as one of the most prideful beings on the planet.

Settra is intrigued.
 
Asarnil is like the opposite of chill. He had the choice of saying sorry or facing permanent exile and he flipped them the bird and flew off because he was absurdly prideful even by the standards of Caledor, which is itself considered absurdly prideful by the other elves.

He's probably up there as one of the most prideful beings on the planet.
Lets be more fair here. While what you say is totally true, with Mathilde he is totally chill, and honestly if he's an asshole to 99.99% of the people he runs into, so long as that doesn't involve anyone we actually like/care about, I'm totally fine with that.
 
High Elves are, in general, arrogant fuck nuggets. A combination of Atlantis, Tolkien Elves and the British Empire as they are. Still when the chips are down they can and will help the other races. Sneering the whole way, perhaps, but help they will.

Malekith, however, is a psychopathic shitstain who had the opportunity to make a culture however he liked and decided that his vision of the future was blood drenched murder crazies slaughtering anything and everything. True phoenix king my fucking ass.

Wood Elves are based, in a large part, upon the more olde folk fae. Aka, they are not anyones friends. That forest is hungry and those particular elves are just giving it a pretty face.
 
They have a step by step prophecy for how they'll go extinct, and the only one trying to prevent it from coming true in any measure (that we notice) is Malekith.
No they don't. They have the prediction of Rhana Dandra, the climatic battle between order and chaos that will destroy the dragons. One of the key things that separates the DE and HE is that the HE generally believe they'll win.

ehhhh going to need a cite on that one. by rule of thumb, all elves balance their lives as more important then humans. its only when that human living might help elves in the long term (so nobles, generals etc.) that an elven knight will make that choice.
Elves are quite literally the origination of the concept of knighthood in Warhammer world.
 
You know, I didn't really notice on the first read, but I think that while Kragg is reluctantly, reluctantly, fond of us, I think we have also cemented his beliefs on magic as a craft.

'This kid is as reliable as a manling as can be expected and not even she truly commands her power. its a foolish art."
Naw, he revised his beliefs upwards, from "This is an unreliable and dangerous craft, but we owe you, so try not to explode near me", to "this is an unreliable and dangerous craft, but that does not mean its wielders are necessarily unreliable".


A note on the elentalists, they are working on a petchwork methodology than leaves them notably more unstable than Teclisian mages (who Kragg already considers at least somewhat insane). I would rather not drag an elementalist in front of Kragg without considerable scrutiny
WoG on this: Elementalists are more stable than non-College mono-Wind spellcasters, but less so than College mono-Wind spellcasters.

Their instability is greatly overstated, the difficulty is finding someone Kragg trusts to work with.

Personally I figure we got a perfectly good avenue of investigation: hit up books on elementals, study it with Windsight.

No need to make it our official job or rush it, Kragg fully intends to spend centuries on this.

So, dwarves don't reincarnate, and so that they don't get eaten in the Warp, the Ancestor Gods made their own afterlife, where every dwarf goes upon death. So, the militaristic every dwarf is in the army civilization has its own pocket dimension where every dead person goes.

Gentlemen, the dwarves have a fucking ghost army in another dimension.I wonder how it can be unleashed.
Considering they did it to shelter the dead, I think they're mainly relevant if the whole world exploded.
The Articles are not holy writ. They were put into law by an Emperor and the acts of another Emperor can overrule them. This is what has allowed the Elementalists to exist, because a later law by Dieter IV explicitly allowed their existence under Imperial law.
Its like...Constitutional Amendments.
They're important but they're political entities, and subject to political forces.

Asarnil is like the opposite of chill. He had the choice of saying sorry or facing permanent exile and he flipped them the bird and flew off because he was absurdly prideful even by the standards of Caledor, which is itself considered absurdly prideful by the other elves.

He's probably up there as one of the most prideful beings on the planet.
In essence, this is exactly the same kind of pride that kicked off the War of the Beard to begin with.

Its just that they decided to flip Ulthuan off rather than the Karaz Ankor and fuck ever recanting.
what is weird is that its seems that the goodwill is generally returned by the elves.
Not weird at all.
Halflings are the opposite position from the elves. EVERYONE disregards them, so they got little pride.

The elves are quite fine with people who know their place.
 
High Elves are, in general, arrogant fuck nuggets. A combination of Atlantis, Tolkien Elves and the British Empire as they are. Still when the chips are down they can and will help the other races. Sneering the whole way, perhaps, but help they will.

Malekith, however, is a psychopathic shitstain who had the opportunity to make a culture however he liked and decided that his vision of the future was blood drenched murder crazies slaughtering anything and everything. True phoenix king my fucking ass.

Wood Elves are based, in a large part, upon the more olde folk fae. Aka, they are not anyones friends. That forest is hungry and those particular elves are just giving it a pretty face.

Athel Loren, for all intents and purposes, is an outright, if a relatively minor Warp Realm. And the Asrai decided to attach themselves to it.

There's no place left for friendship inside them due to the sheer overflow of lunacy.
 
No they don't. They have the prediction of Rhana Dandra, the climatic battle between order and chaos that will destroy the dragons. One of the key things that separates the DE and HE is that the HE generally believe they'll win.
...Does the phrase "Rhana Dandra" come up in Fantasy outside of End Times? Because I was referring to the Prophecy of Demise.
 
...Does the phrase "Rhana Dandra" come up in Fantasy outside of End Times? Because I was referring to the Prophecy of Demise.
I believe so, although I couldn't give you a source.

The Prophecy of Demise speaks of "the tragedy that would befall Elvenkind", not necessarily the end of their species. There's also the fact that a lot of it talks about someone who is commonly held to be Malekith will die, so even if it did prophecize the end of the Elves, Malekith still wouldn't be doing anything to stop it for altruistic reasons. Not that he's very good at being active to accomplish his goals anyway.
 
from what I can tell there is not that much information on the Prophecy of Demise so step by step guide is a major exageration
 
Athel Loren, for all intents and purposes, is an outright, if a relatively minor Warp Realm. And the Asrai decided to attach themselves to it.

There's no place left for friendship inside them due to the sheer overflow of lunacy.
Let's not go that far. They have different values than other peoples, but they are perfectly capable of friendship if not antagonized (using their standards for antagonize).
 
Shouldn't you be sending an ambassador that isn't a shitheel to the people your trying to do diplomacy with?

No wonder asarnil didn't like finubar, dudes an idiot.

Also yeah... Elves just seem to be a species composed of ninety percent arrogant jackasses.
Eyes of the beholder.

There are greenskins and such that considers humans just an upstart gits.
 
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