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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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Wait, so the Marshall is named Murder and the Priest is named Fight?
Doomed Wombat said:
Well its not so much that they barely tolerate him, quite the opposite.

They're so overawed in his presence that they can barely talk to him usually something he basically encourages.
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No, he's also considered unreasonably stubborn and grumbling even by the standards of the oldest longbeards.

Like, seriously, only our ridiculous dwarf favor score stops us and our friends from just exploding in his presence (it was very high when we met him, even though it's tripled since then). He's like Dwarf Teclis, except instead of liking humans he 100% Disapproved of them until they started doing cool things.
 
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chocolote12 said:
Wait, so the Marshall is named Murder and the Priest is named Fight?

No, he's also considered unreasonably stubborn and grumbling even by the standards of the oldest longbeards.

Like, seriously, only our ridiculous dwarf favor score stops us and our friends from just exploding in his presence. He's like Dwarf Teclis, except instead of liking humans he 100% Disapproved of them until they started doing cool things.
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oOoOoOh Good idea man. If we ever manage to get reaaaaaaaaaaaally flush with Elf favours we ought to try and get Teclis to cooperate on a project with Kragg. The fireworks man, the fireworks!
 
Mathilde poking at Kragg is the ultimate expression of Mathilde's contrarian attitude towards making friends, where the more traditionally diplomatic someone is with her the less she trusts them. :V

If the trend continues, I can see her getting along famously with the elves.
 
MooseHowl said:
It's really hilarious to me that Mathilde has basically adopted Kragg the Grim as a crusty old grandpa.

Other Dwarves can barely tolerate him. Wizards? Magic has repeatedly been anthropomorphised as weeping and running away from his presence. The wizard he's spent the second most amount of time with in all of history is Algard, and that was arguing over the nature of magic while building the Doom Tower. And Mathilde is just like, "Imma go ask Kragg wassup and slap him on the shoulder and call him GRAMPS! Just to see his happy scowl!"

If there's any truth to the idea that the winds of magic have minds of their own, the biggest question running through Ulgu's must be WHYYYYYYYYYYYYY.
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Doomed Wombat said:
Well its not so much that they barely tolerate him, quite the opposite.

They're so overawed in his presence that they can barely talk to him usually something he basically encourages.
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I made a post about this a month ago and a half ago, and I think it has only gotten truer since then:
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BungieONI said:
Holy fucking shit Kragg. You madlad I love you and your grumpy face.
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Not memeing here: I honestly think that our odds of becoming genuinely close with Kragg are higher because we're not a dwarf.

Like, remember the first time he ever spoke to us?
BoneyM said:
It is as this news spreads and the Expedition regathers that you feel the unmistakable feeling of Ulgu sobbing quietly to itself, and you turn to see Kragg the Grim approaching you. "Hand," he barks, and you hold yours out and he drops what looks like a rope of chainmail into it. He nods the satisfied nod of someone who is finally done with a distasteful task, and turns and leaves without another word to you.
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And now we're calling him comrade in a ridiculous breach of social protocol and he's just rolling with it. He's over a thousand years old. He was a respected elder five dwarf lifetimes ago. How fucking long has it been since anyone had dealings with him that weren't fraught with frankly religious awe? He doesn't have peers.

But in we stroll: someone who's not a dwarf, and will never be a dwarf, and has some distinctly un-dwarfly traits (to steal a metaphor from Boney, he's still a blacksmith who makes swords and we're still a lunatic who runs up to our enemies with fistfuls of molten iron to throw at them), but is still a serious person doing good for his people in ways he cannot ignore. We respect the structures and beliefs that shape his life without being bound by them ourself, and that gives us the best position anyone can claim, I think, to being able to form a genuine friendship with a living legend. To love him and his grumpy face.

i'm still living in hope that one day we will drop a baby on his lap that will look up at him and tug on his beard, tho
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MooseHowl said:
It's really hilarious to me that Mathilde has basically adopted Kragg the Grim as a crusty old grandpa.

Other Dwarves can barely tolerate him. Wizards? Magic has repeatedly been anthropomorphised as weeping and running away from his presence. The wizard he's spent the second most amount of time with in all of history is Algard, and that was arguing over the nature of magic while building the Doom Tower. And Mathilde is just like, "Imma go ask Kragg wassup and slap him on the shoulder and call him GRAMPS! Just to see his happy scowl!"

If there's any truth to the idea that the winds of magic have minds of their own, the biggest question running through Ulgu's must be WHYYYYYYYYYYYYY.
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always figured that this was her way of scaring Ulgu into compliance otherwise the scary dwarf will come for it. And the other winds are just thankful it is not them and then she starts with multi wind experiments.
 
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Chronic said:
oOoOoOh Good idea man. If we ever manage to get reaaaaaaaaaaaally flush with Elf favours we ought to try and get Teclis to cooperate on a project with Kragg. The fireworks man, the fireworks!
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I feel like Teclis' reaction would be 'Oh goody a chance to discuss magical theory with someone who might actually be able to keep up!'
 
It occurs to me:
  1. We keep comparing Mathilde to a cat.
  2. In Dwarf Fortress, many kinds of animals can be adopted by dwarves, and the game will notify you when one of your dwarves has done so.
  3. ...except in the case of cats, where the cat adopts the dwarf.
 
BurnNote said:
I think that's a pretty silly reason. Pretty much every word has a rich, deep and complicated history that would be extremely unlikely to be replicated. So why object to this specific one, especially since the history in this case has be thoroughly stripped? And it's not even an in-universe word, it a meta descriptor. If it helps, think of it as a translation, and whatever term it was translated from has it's own WHF history.
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Moreover, it's not as if the quest (or any WHF material at all, for that matter) is actually written in Reikspiel. The language doesn't exist, nor do any of its words. There's no reason to limit the use of English words in paratranslating from a nonexistent language save for specific cultural references; the etymological history of words doesn't factor, only the cultural use does.
 
MooseHowl said:
It's really hilarious to me that Mathilde has basically adopted Kragg the Grim as a crusty old grandpa.

Other Dwarves can barely tolerate him. Wizards? Magic has repeatedly been anthropomorphised as weeping and running away from his presence. The wizard he's spent the second most amount of time with in all of history is Algard, and that was arguing over the nature of magic while building the Doom Tower. And Mathilde is just like, "Imma go ask Kragg wassup and slap him on the shoulder and call him GRAMPS! Just to see his happy scowl!"

If there's any truth to the idea that the winds of magic have minds of their own, the biggest question running through Ulgu's must be WHYYYYYYYYYYYYY.
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Mathilde: If this new battle magic spell miscasts, then I'm clearly not suited to magic use, and should go learn enchanting with Gramp Kragg. Just spend as much time as I can around him, since I'm obviously a danger to myself otherwise. Jup. That's what would happen.
Ulgu: *Is a lot more compliant*
Other wizards: *Decide they want to hang out with Kragg too*
Roswita: *Feels a deep kinship to another victim of wizard befriending*

And so it was that Kragg the Grim became the manling god of magic, almost entirely in spite of himself.
 
Someone needs to write an omake about the future Weber family gatherings, in which Kragg is the old guy in the corner taking care of everybody's kids, while Mathilde is the terrifying matriarch who gets really drunk and rants at everybody. I'm not really sure who everybody else would be, but I'm sure there are suitably amusing roles available.
 
Poor Thorek, stuck in fourth place while Kragg's at first with more than three times his votes. I took Thorek prisoner yesterday in Warsword Conquest too, just after I posted my spiel about why people should vote for him, so that's another for the Dunk meter.

Glau said:
And this is also great! But too short. :( There's a lot here that could really shine with some more context, and a news room crew like this could be great for giving the vox populi view of anything quest-related. I'd love a "Who was the Mysterious Grey Wizard at the Empress's side during the Prince's Birth?" speculative gossip issue, or a trade issue with a "Everything you thought you knew about trade is Wrong" bit on the cannels, and tie them all together with the cast you've got.
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Yes, I agree it was too short, the reason being that at the time of writing I could barely think of anything to write about. I did think about writing about the canals, but given the paucity of information about either one I was hesitant to do so. Writing about the Empress giving birth didn't occur to me at all. The closest thing I have at the moment to a possible sequel to that would actually be a prequel, where one of the staff goes to Eight Peaks during the award ceremony and comments on the various happenings there.
 
Ericwinter said:
Someone needs to write an omake about the future Weber family gatherings, in which Kragg is the old guy in the corner taking care of everybody's kids, while Mathilde is the terrifying matriarch who gets really drunk and rants at everybody. I'm not really sure who everybody else would be, but I'm sure there are suitably amusing roles available.
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getting a boy/girl friend in-game is kind of needed first, otherwise its just a bunch of blink faces
 
Jyn Ryvia said:
getting a boy/girl friend in-game is kind of needed first, otherwise its just a bunch of blink faces
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Nah, we've got more than enough characters to make up the aunts and uncles--even if we have to pull on a few minor characters--while it can be suitably in the future that Mathilde's partner is dead and kept vague. That or someone just writes in their favorite for shipping.
 
Lazurman said:
What is this? Link plz?
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BoneyM said:

I regret nothing.
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I would like to note that a raccoon is just about the perfect representation of Mathilde. She gets into the most impossible spots, somehow, then absolutely destroys everything in the most unsubtle ways possible before getting stuck in a tire or some shit and getting chased out by a horde of angry locals. We really do need to work on our getaways.
 
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Ericwinter said:
Someone needs to write an omake about the future Weber family gatherings, in which Kragg is the old guy in the corner taking care of everybody's kids, while Mathilde is the terrifying matriarch who gets really drunk and rants at everybody. I'm not really sure who everybody else would be, but I'm sure there are suitably amusing roles available.
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Roswita, who doesn't want to be there, because she inevitably gets mobbed by all the little Roswitas named after her. The Grey Lord Magister as immidiate Grandparents and Uncles, and other Lord Magister as more distant Cousins. Kazador and family, because dwarfs are stubborn, and Mathilde is in the prime of her years, as far as dwarfs are concerned (given magic, that might not even be false). Our ducklings, now all proper magister. Thorek, even though we probably forgot to invite him. Our cute godson, because most nobles don't want to go to the crazy wizard party. Our dragon friend, to make sure the nobles don't want to go to the crazy wizard party, and because it's the highest concentration of proper dragons anywhere on the continent. Asarnil and Deathfang, because they have the best stories and to make sure the party has the highest concentraition of proper dragons anywhere on the continent. Dragonmas' dragon son, to listen to dragon stories. Ranald, because it's a party with his two favorite people. Anton, because Anton. Wilhelmine, because it's pleasure is business and business is pleasure.
 
NuclearConsensus said:
Poor Thorek, stuck in fourth place while Kragg's at first with more than three times his votes. I took Thorek prisoner yesterday in Warsword Conquest too, just after I posted my spiel about why people should vote for him, so that's another for the Dunk meter.
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I still break out into giggles whenever I think of the Rune of Superior Skill. I'm giggling as I type this.
 
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