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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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Angelazreal1 said:
Murder tower is secure you're right. Im more concerned about the cells and wherever we have the Book-That-Must-Not-Be-Named.

We didn't have them there to test security. I'm sure the QM didn't roll to see if they spotted any holes in our security. Also they probably didn't see every tower.
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I'm willing to bet that the head of the Grey College would have mentioned any problems he noticed in a project he was personally interested in, and be extremely capable of spotting them in the first place.
 
If we're proposing Skaven politics on the basis that the local rats aren't fighting each other enough, adding a Burning Vengeance item to our college favour purchases increases our options to add a bit more spite to the mix.

I'm more worried about attracting fumes that could kill us than about attracting inconvenient smells so I'd like a gas filter item too. Though having Johann steal a Skyre gas mask and reverse engineer it could also satisfy that need.
 
SuperSonicSound said:
The problem with any project that isn't Queekish in the short term is that we're forced to basically spend two personal actions on Qrech to ensure things continue to work out properly, if we take Queekish as a project then we're going to actually have some actions to use for the queekish project on top or for personal development. Until we've finished the Queekish project to at least an acceptable standard we're not able to properly invest in future projects or side things we want to do.
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Forcing Queekish to be our project is not within our power, nor should it be. It's Belegar's decision.

Do I support giving him that option? I very much do.

Do I support denying him other options? I very much do not.
 
Prospalz said:
In that moment you realize; the omnious Wizard on top of the mountain is not just some some mysterious shadow who does arcane things with spiders and such that ultimately do not concern normal people, not some thug who stands beside your bed with a big scary runesword and fistful of hungry shadows...

...But also is your nameless very rich and powerful shadowy megacorp boss, for whom you been doing working for the past few years. She literally owns you and much of everything you call yours, most of your friends and contacts are in her pockets and it is due to her support you are about to become a ruler of Karak Nar.

And you never even suspected, living all these years under the shadows of the tower that openly crowns the peak of Karak Nar.

Like an unwelcome chill running down your spine, a realization comes; you know nothing of this person who has much of Stirland and now, newborn Karak's in her insidious web of influence. You cannot help but wonder for how long this shadowy mastermind was planning to expand EIC's influence, her influence in K8P by instilling a puppet noble in a position of importance. And now, as a new budding city-state of Karak Nar all but directly belongs to her, you wonder where does her ambition ends.

As you unconsciously touch the mysteriously warm and suddenly uncomfortably tight metal torc on your neck, you wonder how many of your decisions for the past few years been foreseen and guided along by someone else, and how many more unknowingly dance on the shadowy strings in the webs of this omnious puppeteer.

...

Meanwhile, in Mathilde's head: "Okay, time to do social. So... Everyone likes puppies, right? Puppies are clearly the answer. And smug."

/pfffft lol
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From puppet to puppetmaster. It's nice to see progress :V
 
NSMS said:
I'm willing to bet that the head of the Grey College would have mentioned any problems he noticed in a project he was personally interested in, and be extremely capable of spotting them in the first place.
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I bet you're right. He would have. Which is why I'm suggesting looking at all the stuff that wasn't Murder Tower.
 
Cool ive not denied that we should offer other projects as wellbut Mathilde should really put a caveat down that until Qrech is dealt with we dont have much free time to do other projects properly.
 
BoneyM said:
You're aware that some might be intimidated by wizards, but between your newly-renovated entrance hall and having Wolf deliver the invitation for Francesco to pop around for a chat at his convenience, you're sure that Signore Caravello will be at ease. Who wouldn't like receiving mail from such a wonderful puppy?
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Does Mathilde find Caravello handsome? We could try to get Mathilde to court him.
 
I'm really surprised that Tzeentch or other chessmasters in the chaos factions haven't arranged for the dwarves to find out about this capability yet. It seems like with just a few words in the right place they could do more damage to both the human and dwarf races than they could with entire armies.
 
@BoneyM could Mathilde set up an alarm in the fief someplace where they can trip it incase of an emergency?

Or do alarm not last that long...
 
You know I think if most Dwarves saw our relationship with Kragg they would go it is the end times isn't it. I'm entirely behind getting the dragon stuff for the library though I do want to send that one magister the ale just as a good joke.

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[ ] PROJECT: Queekish
[ ] PROJECT: Skaven Politics
[ ] PROJECT: Dragon
[ ] PROJECT: Karag Mhonar

Anyway this I think is our best bet for projects right know the first two contribute into each other the other two fall under our job description.
 
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Angelazreal1 said:
I bet you're right. He would have. Which is why I'm suggesting looking at all the stuff that wasn't Murder Tower.
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We upgraded the security of our home, which provides the access onto the mountaintop for the towers and into the cells with Qrech, this very turn. It is now as secure against covert infiltration as we can make it.
HanEmpire said:
Does Mathilde find Caravello handsome? We could try to get Mathilde to court him.
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While I am certain he will show up on an eventual husbando list, let's not jump the gun before we've even meaningfully interacted with the other named Undumgi leaders, or had a conversation with Ruprecht where he isn't convinced we are there to spy on him as a potential traitor.
 
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HanEmpire said:
Does Mathilde find Caravello handsome? We could try to get Mathilde to court him.
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If you like muscular and well-educated Tilean adventurers with a side of brooding intensity.

Fehu said:
@BoneyM could Mathilde set up an alarm in the fief someplace where they can trip it incase of an emergency?
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If Stirland is so picked clean of victims that whatever is causing the emergency is climbing hills to chase goats, there's bigger problems.
 
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Omegahugger said:
You go girl! Grab all the shinies you can and use them to get more shiny stuff! Though maybe you took a longer lease than neccesary, mages around Mathilde tend to explode.


... I am beginning to suspect Gotri might have an Umgiphile trait. But on the bright side, the more we can convince him to tell Anton, the more he can teach Adela since we humans already know it!



... Just to be clear, I am not the only one whose goggles go haywire at this, right? We can all agree that smiling bashfully as you talk about how your "acquaintance" is charming sends a certain signal.


Especially when directly followed by him expressing a desire not to be married to a woman!

THE SIGNS ARE THERE AND ARE DELIBERATELY PLACED! HUGGER'S GOGGLES WOULD NOT BE WRONG ABOUT THIS!
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I won't dismiss the possibility that he swings both ways, but uh

BoneyM said:
"Prince Kazrik, Princess Edda. How fares the Ulricans?"

They exchange glances, both seeing if the other is going to speak first, and as their gaze meets they look away again. The Princess sees your curious look as she searches for something else to look at and flinches away, failing her attempts to fight a blush as she realizes you were watching. "They're digging Clanholds," Prince Kazrik reports happily. "Well, not literally, they're building them out of trees. But they've been doing wonderful business with those trees and the first harvest has done well."
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Well see...

BoneyM said:
Princess Edda is originally of Karak Izor, which has more ties with Tilea and the Border Princes than it does the Empire, but the Young Holds have close ties and introductions to the Elector Counts of Averland and Wissenland are hers for the asking. It makes some sense that she'd capitalize on those relationships and linger there rather than pushing deeper into the Empire, but you follow a hunch and arrive unannounced at an awkward hour, and when sunrise and cock-crow arrives and a sleepy Princess returns to her guest quarters, she finds an unexpected Grey Wizard awaiting her.

"Good morning, fellow Councillor," you say with a smile. "I applaud your dedication, to be getting to bed this early in the morning."

"Ah," she says, brain trying to go from zero to a sprint in an instant. "Magister Weber."

"I must also applaud Prince Kazrik for providing such prolonged assistance to you."

"Yes," she says. "Assistance. We were-"

"Grungen? Developing bokkul? Adgalazgandit?" Though Khazalid doesn't have Reikspiel's breadth of creative euphemisms, it does have a lot of abusable mining terminology, and Edda blushes deeply. And that only worsens as you exercise your grasp of the language.

Unfortunately you didn't come all the way to Nuln just to see how much you could make the Princess blush, so after fishing for as many juicy details as she's willing to give, you take her on a jaunt across the border and up the road to Blutdorf.
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Erm
I don't know how to tell you this Omegahugger, but I think Kazrik might just maybe be attracted women somehow
And maybe, it's possible that he might be having a thing with Edda
... Just a possibility

Edit: Won't, not want... how did that even happen? Whatever, fixed
 
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picklepikkl said:
Yes. But the mechanics of the library stipend mean that buying every book on a topic at once in preparation for a rainy day is extremely wasteful.

We can buy +6 on the topic right now, for no Favour, and then if Belegar decides to prioritize it, decide how much Favour to invest in it.
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Well, I still think that given how much college favour we are gaining each turn spending 4 favours there is extremely affordable....

And regarding Emperor Dragons, better Safe than sorry...
 
I'd say AV, because hey, maybe we'll get another "why didn't you bring this up before, have a blank check" from Belegar.

Queekish, because it could be a game changer far beyond K8P, and also if we get a solid lexicon going we could potentially just hand it over to Dreng and let him focus on figuring out what's going on with the rats (which is sort of his job, not ours).

Karag Mhonar, because if we don't at least suggest it then I think we'd be being irresponsible.

Mopman43 said:
God, I just realized this.

Rolf, the son of a shepherd.
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I cannot unsee this and I have no desire to.
 
Briefvoice said:
And yet... Johann could tell him for sure with but a single casting of Tale of Metal. That's exactly what the spell does; tell you who made something and where and how.

Like, in under an hour, question answered.

And remember, Johann would be getting half the credit for any Favor accrued so he actually has a stake in this.
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Hm. Dwarf society is secretive and more about runecraft than most things, but... we know the dwarves managed centuries of peaceful trade with the elves when their magic can most certainly do the same thing or better when it comes to divination effects, and they've got enough pride that I really doubt they hid their incredible information-gathering capabilities from dwarf society when working with them on good terms.

There must be a way to thread this diplomatic needle to offer the full scope of available wizard services that doesn't end in tears and/or an axe to the face, is what I'm getting at here. It's a problem that others have faced and solved before, even if an immediate solution is not apparent.
 
] [TOWER] Complete

[ ] PROJECT: Queekish
[ ] PROJECT: Skaven Politics
[ ] PROJECT: Dragon
[ ] PROJECT: Karag Mhonar

I think I'm going for this list as well, we haven't done the base research for the Snek Juice to see if its something the dwarfs would be willing to touch.

I want to do Skaven Politics because them not fighting each other is a problem.
 
Briefvoice said:
<runeaxe uncertainty>
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And yet... Johann could tell him for sure with but a single casting of Tale of Metal. That's exactly what the spell does; tell you who made something and where and how.

Like, in under an hour, question answered.

And remember, Johann would be getting half the credit for any Favor accrued so he actually has a stake in this.
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BoneyM said:
Mathilde is doing her best to keep the Dwarves from finding out Johann can peep on their most sacred secrets at a touch.
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Abhorsen said:
Kragg would immediately want to how they would do it. We can't BS our way around Kragg, I think. He rolls learning yes.
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Clearly, the solution here is to use the coin set to the Deceiver, and then lie that the colleges have a very complicated and expensive ritual that takes a week to cast, which can be used to discover one fact about the creation of an item, as an answer to a question that must be specified in advance. :D Then Johann takes off with the runeaxe, spends a week of vacation reading in his tower and pretending to be ritual casting, and at the end of that time comes out with an answer as to who made it.
(This is probably a bad idea still.)
 
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Both AV and Queekish but especially AV seem to be the sort of project that should be kept under Mathilde's hat until she has concrete information that they're specifically useful.

On the flip side just about everything else (except for the elf thing) seems immediately relevant to the hold and thus a valid project to throw at Belegar's feet.
 
DarkLight140 said:
Hm. Dwarf society is secretive and more about runecraft than most things, but... we know the dwarves managed centuries of peaceful trade with the elves when their magic can most certainly do the same thing or better when it comes to divination effects, and they've got enough pride that I really doubt they hid their incredible information-gathering capabilities from dwarf society when working with them on good terms.

There must be a way to thread this diplomatic needle to offer the full scope of available wizard services that doesn't end in tears and/or an axe to the face, is what I'm getting at here. It's a problem that others have faced and solved before, even if an immediate solution is not apparent.
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There might be a way, but if you're going to be betting the entire trade relationship between the Karaz Ankor and humanity in general, you'll want there to be more in the pot than a single mystery rune.
 
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