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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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DarkLight140 said:
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If you're discussing long-term groundwater accumulation being used as the primary source rather than having draining and annual replenishment, that kind of raises the question of whether the groundwater is still poisoned, three thousand years after the original deed. I wouldn't normally think so, but if it's not being cycled and just sitting there... what would ever clean it?
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That seems to be the assumption Panoramia and the Halflings were working from.
This might be the best next magical megaproject - an Aqshy powered still with a Rune of Valyra to purify water from the depths.
On-screen that's true, but in order for the Tarn to have formed as a reservoir and be usable as a sustained source of water for our agriculture there must be enough rainfall/snowfall to fill it with water and replace what we're drawing off. For that matter, heavy agriculture at all means that the climate here simply can't be upper-Andes-level arid. Why would the dwarfs ever move in to a desert in the first place?
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People do farm and herd in the Andes. The Dwarves would have moved in for the minerals, the command of the pass, the sheltered location compared to the rest of the region, the defensibility and the aquifer. As to whether the water use from the tarn is sustainable, we'll see over the next few years.
 
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Mopman43 said:
The first was for riding so fast she wrapped up the entire Stirlandian League in one day. The second means "Singing Critic" for killing the Singing King (a Strigoi that yelled constantly while he fought) during the purge of the Haunted Hills.
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It doesn't quite translate as that, unless this is a deliberately bad translation in order to convey the way reiksspiel names often sound German, but aren't actually. Does anyone know?
 
It might be that Mhonar was a Pestilens or allied clan base, and they released some Uber plague as a last fuck you before being exterminated, it makes sense that they had some presence in K8P if they managed to convince Mors to join them.
 
das_slash said:
It might be that Mhonar was a Pestilens or allied clan base, and they released some Uber plague as a last fuck you before being exterminated, it makes sense that they had some presence in K8P if they managed to convince Mors to join them.
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We did miss an investigation threshold back when we were looking into figuring what was up with the Skaven, so it's possible.
 
Given that we're setting the coin to The Deceiver this turn, we should really use it to support at least two gambits given that it doesn't have a limit to the number of lies. Why can't we e.g. swap out the spell-learning action for another Qrech action+gambit [ideally convincing him that we're self-interested and could help the Under-Empire] and take the spell-learning next turn instead [with the Gambler to support it]?
 
das_slash said:
It might be that Mhonar was a Pestilens or allied clan base, and they released some Uber plague as a last fuck you before being exterminated, it makes sense that they had some presence in K8P if they managed to convince Mors to join them.
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How would that break the bones in half, though?
Seleucus said:
and take the spell-learning next turn instead [with the Gambler to support it]?
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Because if we don't get it done this turn we'll get a negative trait. We're on a deadline.
 
Seleucus said:
Given that we're setting the coin to The Deceiver this turn, we should really use it to support at least two gambits given that it doesn't have a limit to the number of lies. Why can't we e.g. swap out the spell-learning action for another Qrech action+gambit [ideally convincing him that we're self-interested and could help the Under-Empire] and take the spell-learning next turn instead [with the Gambler to support it]?
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I'd support taking a second gambit, but we need to learn spells or the unprepared-ness will start really sinking in and Mathilde may turn away from her skill with sneaky murder.

Personally I'd happily drop the red tower, because we don't need to be able to strike at night and we don't know how easy it will be to drive away its shadow (the sun in a clear sky casts a far stronger shadow than a bonfire - but does the red tower?) but dropping the spell learning is just not on the cards.

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[ ] Plan Translation Extraction, 10 Pull Gacha Edition

It gets two skaven gambits in by doing only one tower. The red one, but doesn't look like the solo-blues stand much chance at this point, so might aswell try it.
 
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Well, thinking about it, ten College Favour is enough to hire a Magister Lord to personally tutor Mathilde for six months. I'd hope that gets a better result than just regular classes - although it might not.
 
I don't like the "we could help the Under-Empire because we're a conscienceless ambitious person" gambit because it feels like a thing where we'd eventually have to put up or shut up. Gambits should be picked with an eye for sustainable lies; I like trying to connect with him on the basis of "we are both loyal to our masters, but we can satisfy each other's goals."
 
picklepikkl said:
I don't like the "we could help the Under-Empire because we're a conscienceless ambitious person" gambit because it feels like a thing where we'd eventually have to put up or shut up. Gambits should be picked with an eye for sustainable lies; I like trying to connect with him on the basis of "we are both loyal to our masters, but we can satisfy each other's goals."
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"We crushed Clan Mors." Protector lie. "An east Dawi hold was destroyed by information you gave costing enormous amounts of resources." Protector lie.

I think that's actually one of the more sustainable lies.
 
SuperSonicSound said:
"We crushed Clan Mors." Protector lie. "An east Dawi hold was destroyed by information you gave costing enormous amounts of resources." Protector lie.

I think that's actually one of the more sustainable lies.
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The problem is that our path to Queekish involves furnishing documents for translation. If what they say doesn't match our cover story, we are in trouble. So we want as much as possible to lie about the Empire's side of the situation, because he can't verify that from the plundered intel we want to translate and our cover stays intact.
 
das_slash said:
It might be that Mhonar was a Pestilens or allied clan base, and they released some Uber plague as a last fuck you before being exterminated, it makes sense that they had some presence in K8P if they managed to convince Mors to join them.
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But this has been going on for a long time. The bones of both Skaven and Greenskins there had some described as "ancient." Mors' alliance with Pestilens is more recent from the looks of things.

Plus, the greatest amount of killing happened on the outskirts, while if it was an uber-plague, you'd expect the bulk of the dead to be deeper inside.
 
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[X] Plan: Queekish Reading v2
[X] Plan Translation Extraction
[X] Plan Temple
[X] Plan Steady Progress
[X] Plan Steady Progress (Tower Edition)
[X] Plan Translation Extraction (For the Snek Juice! Edition), 10 Pull Gacha Edition
[X] Plan Translation Extraction, Many Prayers, Less Excess
[X] Plan Noliar v1: Taking Time in Towers
 
In any case,since the revelation of Mhonar and the possibility of the threat being biological or chemical in nature, I am tempted to change the DUCK option to helping Johann with the gun, and then next turn get the mask the wanted to study from (Skryre?), We should begin mass production of those.
Of course it would just be something else, but the mask sounds useful anyway.
 
Chimeraguard said:
But this has been going on for a long time. The bones of both Skaven and Greenskins there had some described as "ancient." Mors' alliance with Pestilens is more recent from the looks of things.

Plus, the greatest amount of killing happened on the outskirts, while if it was an uber-plague, you'd expect the bulk of the dead to be deeper inside.
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Right, so what are we thinking? Ancient dwarven automaton? Would not explain the lack of trolls.
What do trolls keep away from?
 
das_slash said:
Right, so what are we thinking? Ancient dwarven automaton? Would not explain the lack of trolls.
What do trolls keep away from?
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Actually, one of the Dwarfen Rune Golems could work, maybe. It would definitely be breaking bones, the only real problem I can see is that it'd have to be pretty stealthy to avoid Dreng's rangers, and Rune Golems... aren't.

Trolls could be because they recover from blunt force better and learn to stay away.
 
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