- Location
- Vancouver
Very awkward sentence and quite a mouthful.
Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
- Thread starter Boney
- Start date
- Fantasy Users' Choice!
Voted best in category in the Users' Choice awards.
I voted disdain for sigmar (i think) because it was the most efficient negatrait to get the hell out of the empire.
It worked! I think it was always going to be the trait chosen just for that munchkinism and because voters aren't really confortable with holdling candles for dead people (except Omegahugger ofc, and he has a excuse and a strategy).
Necromancy is not really ultimate. Not even vampirism is. Like even Nagash thinks it's old hat and is jelly at Sigmar that didn't want ultimate power and became a regional god (still not ultimate power).
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Lealope
Not yet invincible
- Pronouns
- She/Her
I suppose Ling Qi is stealthy enough as it is though
- Location
- Earth
I mean, this is a bit off topic but it comes down to what do you believe? Do you think re-education and conversion camps are right? That sexuality is a choice? Because otherwise, I if you don't, Mat can not change who she fancies in character.
If your point isn't that sexuality is a choice that can be changed, by force, or by choice, then your argument comes down to "We could pick small as a trait, why not sexual attraction?" which slams right into value judgement. Is a non-heterosexual trait an advantege, a disadvantage, just flavor? Do you want to make that kind of value judgements? Do you want the QM to make them?
And while I can see the argument for "Thread votes warp reality", there is a balance to be hand between stuff we can change and stuff that is hard coded into the world. If you make the world too mutable, it doesn't feel real.
So I suppose I can see it both ways. Some games give the option at character creation, or with relationships later, but even then, the NPCs tend to remain fixed in their ways. It comes down to the QM. Is this a thing I want to leave to choice, or something I've already hammered down as something established, even if it was not done so "On screen."
From examples so far, we know Mat is/can be attracted to men. We've never seen an example where she felt that kind of attention, in a good or bad way, from women.
Lack of examples isn't proof of lack of interest, but it is weak evidence of it. If the QM hasn't been thinking of the character that way, or it doesn't fit the character in their head, that insisting could cause issue. Not that we know right now. And this isn't a question to be asked while the QM is writing. Ask later, I guess?
As for absurdity, some systems decide everything from weight, to height, to skin color, to "What is your natural talent for this task?" with dice. If a QM wants to, dice are a perfectly suitable way to decide the issue of sexuality, and likely to be the way it is decided for most NPCs. The PC might be exempt with his PC-ness, but I doubt you want that level of detail for most other characters.
Please stop the sexuality discussion. Just because I don't actually have the power to stop someone from making disruptive comments doesn't mean you should go right ahead and discuss them. All orientations are valid and anyone arguing otherwise will be ejected from the thread as soon as I can get a moderator's response.
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- Location
- being near locations is my passion.
That is... adjacent to, or a smaller version of what I am hoping for. First off, the very shape of the problem makes it harder for her to solve by herself. It is not hubris to say this, but despite her low Diplo score, Mathilde is probably one of the best experts in human-dwarf relations, at least in the context of what is happening in K8P. Her help to set something up is actually extremely useful.
Second, I'm want something with a broader remit than a few helper people, I want to set up something that is like a sub-council or joint body between Stewardship and Diplomacy advisors that can help keep the place running well (and of course can assist with, uh, keeping a close read on the pulse of things
). [Read: Intrigue aspect also].K8P, socially speaking is something new. The same basic structure of the council as is, I feel, not enough to let stuff flow smoothly, not with the traits our stewardship advisor has - a well structured and staffed group with local community advocates can do more good and be much more proactive (and therefore needing less Mathilde time, or thread concern),
While you might feel that leaving it as is would be fine, or hoping Ella would sort it, I would.like to use our unique position to set up something better and also useful in an intrigue sense which Ella would not think to do due to her cultural background.
I am hopeful that frontloading an AP now will be worth the investment and help avoid the chance of AP costs later and also just make K8P, as a community that much more awesome, too.
I'll not nag about this too much, but I do intend to use whatever we learn in the upcoming social turn to promote this, and help expand on and better define my idea, and will officially ask @BoneyM to add the idea to the options available, depending on how the social turn is expressed, for the next turn, unless the turn plan is now in which case I am asking now
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NSMS
Probably evil, unfortunately.
- Location
- A rapidly widening tear in the fabric of reality
She always thought wizards might be death of her, but not because of sheer exasperation at them.
Well, the first time.
You do have the right to have people thrown out and banned from the thread for being disruptive.
- Location
- New Brunswick, NJ
- Pronouns
- He/Him/His
Grungen: mining
Developing bokkul: mastering the art of banging your head against a low ceiling, like, say, over a bed
Adgalazgandit: This one is hard to decode, but I am glossing it as something like "[You] searched for small nuggets of gold?" and I am going to assume "small nuggets of gold" is a Khazalid euphemism for "orgasm."
Yeah, I know; I was responding to "there was a roll for it" and saying "no, she had a sexual preference from the beginning, unlike Mathilde where the answer exists in quantum superposition until we decide it as a quest."
I suppose Ling Qi is stealthy enough as it is though
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SuperSonicSound
Shadowmancer of the Shadow Cabal
I suggest we polish up the dwarven collection of books on the winds of magic as a whole perhaps grab some on the way stones?
This... is not the most productive way to have this argument. It's very combative and begins with the assumption of some rather unpleasant things of my position. I'm not offended or anything since I recognize that you did not mean it like that, but still it might help to take a less aggressive stance in the future.
Substantively I believe that the player base should have control of all aspects of the main character's personality and preferences which should be built organically throughout the quest growing with the story even as the world does. I could see the argument for the GM deciding certain aspects himself as his part of the creative process, using random chance there on the other hand is more than a little silly from a storytelling perspective.
All that said I think this conversation has run its course and we should probably focus on the update.
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- Location
- New Brunswick, NJ
- Pronouns
- He/Him/His
Library Plan
[] [LIBRARY] Plan: Finding the Mines
-[] Skaven: Dwarven Esoteric
-[] Karaz Ankor: Imperial Esoteric, Bretonnian Extensive
Dwarven Esoteric: 150 gold, 4 dwarf favour
Imperial Esoteric: 150 gold
Bretonnian Extensive: 100 gold
Total expense: 400 gold, 4 dwarf favour
Out of pocket expense: 100 gold, 2 dwarf favour
This is a library plan that goes for maximizing our bonus to Skaven-related topics (from +9 to +12) and increases our Karaz Ankor bonus to nearly the maximum (from +4 to +9). Since we are dealing heavily with the skaven and with navigating difficult cultural issues for our dwarf allies, these both seem like really important pickups to me.
(See, the plan name is clever, because "Mine" as a noun means both "the thing that dwarves dig and skaven invade" and "a small buried explosive charge that will blow you to bits if you step on it because you didn't know where it was.")
[] [LIBRARY] Plan: Finding the Mines
-[] Skaven: Dwarven Esoteric
-[] Karaz Ankor: Imperial Esoteric, Bretonnian Extensive
Dwarven Esoteric: 150 gold, 4 dwarf favour
Imperial Esoteric: 150 gold
Bretonnian Extensive: 100 gold
Total expense: 400 gold, 4 dwarf favour
Out of pocket expense: 100 gold, 2 dwarf favour
This is a library plan that goes for maximizing our bonus to Skaven-related topics (from +9 to +12) and increases our Karaz Ankor bonus to nearly the maximum (from +4 to +9). Since we are dealing heavily with the skaven and with navigating difficult cultural issues for our dwarf allies, these both seem like really important pickups to me.
(See, the plan name is clever, because "Mine" as a noun means both "the thing that dwarves dig and skaven invade" and "a small buried explosive charge that will blow you to bits if you step on it because you didn't know where it was.")
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- Location
- Norway
Oh wow, Roswita and Stirland/Sylvania apparently got off very lightly if that's the worst and nobody exploded.
You get a hologram, you get a hologram, everyone gets a hologram! The fact we added a basic spell to every college curriculum is awesome. Go Mathilde!
That is a problem. Then again, what dwarf really understands humans anyways? It's not like we can find a sociology professor and have them teach her.
Also, the whole Roswita section was amazing. The Battle Wizards are so excited to have free reign!
Holy crap, they really are like cats?
And now, you can add "revealing a Skaven civil war, and setting everyone on the Skaven" to that list of accomplishments, Belegar.
"must be"
Crap. Yeah. I'll have to edit it in later.
Well that, yes. I don't think we're guaranteed to learn a spell no matter what we do, even if concentrating on one spell provides bonus to learning it.
Never was a dice roll, LQ had certain character traits set from the start. We only voted on her background and some talents.
LQ as a rule got set characteristics that the voters cant change, only poke, you can see it as the difference between a meat puppet that questers control and an actual character that the questers play as.
Oops, I was still typing when you wrote this, sorry about the post above, that will be my last on the subject as I said in it
The only thing worse than a dwarf refusing to face up to reality is the heartbreak of a dwarf facing up to reality.
Can you imagine if the Belegar of five years ago had to hear himself ask that? "I had every success possible. What was the point of it all?"
I don't even know what to tell him.
Because there's no fix.
[] [TOWER] Complete
I know this vote isn't going to win, but I'm voting for it anyway.
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- Location
- United States
How about we go a little slower and not spend the favor?
DocMatoi
Theoretical Lover of Girls
- Location
- within 2 hours of the White House
- Pronouns
- They/Them
YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES.
This is everything i could have hoped for
Battle Wizards love Roswita because she says thank you when they do things, its adorable
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