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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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BoneyM said:
Pending College Favours: Lustrian Eggs, Skaven campaign (Mousillon & Bastonne, Ubersreik, Nuln)

Long-term pending: Economic & Strategic Benefits of K8P, Mathilde's MAPP
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Well then. That's a very interesting Pending College Favour, now isn't it?

Also, it seems that Mathilde's MAP has been spelled MAPP now, and moved into long-term pending instead of just College.
 
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kingreaper said:
Also combines well with not being able to request education on the Skaven language from the imperial bodies that have that information - we are important enough that we could conceivably get it, but they'd ask some pointed questions and might find out about our traitorous intentions.
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We need to let anyone who might overhear us in on it being a con for the skaven ahead of time though.
 
soulcake said:
Actually. As a sensible and rightly honourable king. Gotrek starbreaker declared the grudge settled after he beat the fuck out of Caledor II. Snot the dwarves fault for hating elgi ever since.

I mean who would trust someone after they did what the elves did.
-dawi gang.

Youre right tho. Elves are definitely that awful. 10/10 accuracy.
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I'm pretty sure the issue is less not trusting them and more that even more grudges were piled on during the war.

But the elves could get rid of those grudges if they wanted to they just have to ask how.
 
I am extremely skeptical of trying to go full Horned Rat cultist. It seems like it has too many failure points where the masquerade might break in response to reasonable things he might want, like, say, "joining in a blasphemous ritual in worship of the Horned Rat."

I think confining our lie to "the Empire has Queekish, but due to internal factionalism I don't, and in exchange for your help in gaining this knowledge and showing up my rivals, I will focus our efforts on wiping out the Traitor-Clan before fighting any of the loyal clans" is a Deceiver play that might work.

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Kornet said:
K8p pendings have been there since forever.
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The new stuff is the Skaven campaign favours.
 
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kingreaper said:
Also combines well with not being able to request education on the Skaven language from the imperial bodies that have that information - we are important enough that we could conceivably get it, but they'd ask some pointed questions and might find out about our traitorous intentions.
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We must not get overheard though. With the coin set to Deceiver, anyone who hears us say we're a HR cultist will be convinced but anyone we explain the truth to will not be. The only way to save ourself would be a different lie: "Of course I don't worship the Horned Rat - Sigmar is all the god I'll ever need!" It's too horrible to contemplate.
 
I think it might be a good idea to bring in a specialist grey order interrogater. Somone helping us sell the act would be very useful.
 
IMAGINE BEING SO FOOLISH AS TO NOT REVERE SETTRA, GREAT KING, THE IMPERISHABLE, KHEMRIKHARA, THE GREAT KING OF NEHEKHARA, KING OF KINGS, OPENER OF THE WAY, WIELDER OF THE DIVINE FLAME, PUNISHER OF NOMADS, THE GREAT UNIFIER, COMMANDER OF THE GOLDEN LEGION, SACRED OF APPEARANCE, BRINGER OF LIGHT, FATHER OF HAWKS, BUILDER OF CITIES, PROTECTOR OF THE TWO WORLDS, KEEPER OF THE HOURS, CHOSEN OF PTRA, HIGH STEWARD OF THE HORIZON, SAILOR OF THE GREAT VITAE, SENTINEL OF THE TWO REALMS, THE UNDISPUTED, BEGETTER OF THE BEGAT, SCOURGE OF THE FAITHLESS, CARRION-FEEDER, FIRST OF THE CHARNEL VALLEY, RIDER OF THE SACRED CHARIOT, VANQUISHER OF VERMIN, CHAMPION OF THE DEATH ARENA, MIGHTY LION OF THE INFINITE DESERT, EMPEROR OF THE SHIFTING SANDS, HE WHO HOLDS THE SCEPTRE, GREAT HAWK OF THE HEAVENS, ARCH-SULTAN OF ATALAN, WAKER OF THE HIEROTITAN, MONARCH OF THE SKY, MAJESTIC EMPEROR OF THE SHIFTING SANDS, CHAMPION OF THE DESERT GODS, BREAKER OF THE OGRE CLANS, BUILDER OF THE GREAT PYRAMID, TERROR OF THE LIVING, MASTER OF THE NEVER-ENDING HORIZON, MASTER OF THE NECROPOLISES, TAKER OF SOULS, TYRANT TO THE FOOLISH, BEARER OF PTRA'S HOLY BLADE, SCION OF USIRIAN, SCION OF NEHEK, THE GREAT, CHASER OF NIGHTMARES, KEEPER OF THE ROYAL HERAT, FOUNDER OF THE MORTUARY CULT, BANISHER OF THE GRAND HIEROPHANT, HIGH LORD ADMIRAL OF THE DEATHFLEETS, GUARDIAN OF THE CHARNEL PASS, TAMER OF THE LICHE KING, UNLIVING JACKAL LORD, DISMISSER OF THE WARRIOR QUEEN, CHARIOTEER OF THE GODS, HE WHO DOES NOT SERVE, SLAYER OF REDDITTRAS, SCARAB PURGER, FAVOURED OF USIRIAN, PLAYER OF THE GREAT GAME, LIBERATOR OF LIFE, LORD SAND, WRANGLER OF SCORPIONS, EMPEROR OF THE DUNES, ETERNAL SOVEREIGN OF KHEMRI'S LEGIONS, SENESCHAL OF THE GREAT SANDY DESERT, CURSERER OF THE LIVING, REGENT OF THE EASTERN MOUNTAINS, WARDEN OF THE ETERNAL NECROPOLIS, HERALD OF ALL HERALDS, CALLER OF THE BITTER WIND, GOD-TAMER, MASTER OF THE MORTIS RIVER, GUARDIAN OF THE DEAD, GREAT KEEPER OF THE OBELISKS, DEACON OF THE ASH RIVER, BELATED OF WAKERS, GENERAL OF THE MIGHTY FRAME, SUMMONER OF SANDSTORMS, MASTER OF ALL NECROTECTS, PRINCE OF DUST, TYRANT OF ARANY, PURGER OF THE GREENSKIN BREATHERS, KILLER OF THE FALSE GOD'S CHAMPIONS, TYRANT OF THE GOLD DUNES, GOLDEN BONE LORD, AVENGER OF THE DEAD, CARRION MASTER, ETERNAL WARDEN OF NEHEK'S LANDS, BREAKER OF DJAF'S BONDS

-brought to you by Khemri gang
 
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A Quiet Drink
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    • A Quiet Drink​

    Sigmar couldn't help the small sigh, even as he felt his energies being pulled in a thousand different directions. Minor blessings, miracles for the faithful, healing... He sighed again, taking a moment to indulge himself and manifest a drinking horn of mead to quaff. The wooden counter formed under his elbows as his will made manifest in this realm between the Aethyr and Reality that the "Gods" called home.

    He felt more than heard the rattle of dice in his off hand, the quiet chuff of a pleased cat... and then there was a presence at his elbow. "Spare a drop for the thirsty guv?" The tone was wheedling and sly, as it always was, but Sigmar had long divested himself of his irritation. If nothing else, He and the voice's owner were one of only a handful that were able to share common ground.

    "As if you haven't already pinched the best of my ales before Ranald." He lowered the drinking horn to see the ever-grinning face of the four-fold god. True to form, he was shuffling a deck of cards one-handed, the designs on the cards changing with each twitch of his fingers. A grey cat was nestled in his hood, one eye cracked in the other god's direction, before deciding that he was of little importance. Sigmar could admit, he actually was somewhat fond of cats for that reason. It was hard to get a swelled head when you had that unimpressed gaze upon you.

    "No harm in asking though. Besides, given the blessed event that's about to happen, I thought a celebratory drink might not go amiss." Sigmar's own expression soured slighty. Ah, yes the birth of the new heir.

    "If you've come to gloat Ranald, I have better things to do than listen to you crow about taking advantage of the loss of a good man." There was a silence that seemed to crackle with restrained energy... before the cards vanished without a sound.

    "While I celebrate my windfalls as much as the next... I tried to help him too Sigmar. I went to Shayalla. I tried to ask a boon, I even contemplated attempting to steal a sliver of healing, something that would have helped that boy. He was pulling off the greatest heist in the world, stealing Sylvania back from the undead and protecting those that have lived generations in fear." His laugh is surprisingly bitter. "It's always a shock to remember that for all that we're 'gods', we're not all powerful and all knowing. Shyalla was already helping save the life of a boy with a prospective future in Altdorf that may help keep Magnus' little project spinning another couple of centuries. And Morr..." The thief scoffed. "Easier to bargain with Khaine. I won't apologize for what happened, Mathilde made her own choices, and for all that I've profited mightily, the Empire has as well. The Dwarves are on the ascent, Sylvania is getting flattened by mages, and a new heir is about to be born that may manage to fix this mess just as much as the one you had lined up already would have, if his mother hadn't gotten mixed up in all that stupidity... I know we don't see eye-to-eye on a lot of things Sigmar, but here and now? I'm just wanting to toast to the health of the next heir to the Empire."

    Sigmar's countenance cracked into a small smile. "I suppose I could drink to that..." He paused. "I don't suppose you could show me the look on that overgrown goblin's face when you managed to swipe so much power?"

    Ranald laughed.
     
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    • Omegahugger said:
    I would like to remind you all that the Horned Rat is objectively less responsible for Abel's death than Ranald is.
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    That is not true. Abelheim died fighting the undead of Sylvania, which only exist because the forces of the Horned Rat tried to invade the Empire. Ranald, by contrast, has done absolutely nothing to help the Abelheim situation, but he didn't contribute to the events leading up to it.
     
    Tangent: here's my proposal for the turn's library purchases.

    Skaven (Esoteric Dwarven): 150 dwarf gold coins, 4 Dwarf Favour
    Karaz Ankor (Esoteric Imperial, Extensive Bretonnian): 250 imperial gold coins

    400 gold and 4 Dwarf Favour for +3 on our Skaven interaction rolls and +5 to our dwarf culture navigation rolls. We want the former because of Qrech, we want the latter because dwarf culture is a minefield, we've already done damage to our liege's psyche, and we want to really avoid doing that again.

    EDIT: @TempestK, I love the story. Lore question, though: can a woman become Empress Regnant, not just Empress Consort? That is to say, if Heidi has a girl, is this the presumed heir of the Empire of Man, or can only men gain the imperial throne?
     
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    Aegon Targaryen said:
    IMAGINE BEING SO FOOLISH AS TO NOT REVERE SETTRA, GREAT KING, THE IMPERISHABLE, KHEMRIKHARA, THE GREAT KING OF NEHEKHARA, KING OF KINGS, OPENER OF THE WAY, WIELDER OF THE DIVINE FLAME, PUNISHER OF NOMADS, THE GREAT UNIFIER, COMMANDER OF THE GOLDEN LEGION, SACRED OF APPEARANCE, BRINGER OF LIGHT, FATHER OF HAWKS, BUILDER OF CITIES, PROTECTOR OF THE TWO WORLDS, KEEPER OF THE HOURS, CHOSEN OF PTRA, HIGH STEWARD OF THE HORIZON, SAILOR OF THE GREAT VITAE, SENTINEL OF THE TWO REALMS, THE UNDISPUTED, BEGETTER OF THE BEGAT, SCOURGE OF THE FAITHLESS, CARRION-FEEDER, FIRST OF THE CHARNEL VALLEY, RIDER OF THE SACRED CHARIOT, VANQUISHER OF VERMIN, CHAMPION OF THE DEATH ARENA, MIGHTY LION OF THE INFINITE DESERT, EMPEROR OF THE SHIFTING SANDS, HE WHO HOLDS THE SCEPTRE, GREAT HAWK OF THE HEAVENS, ARCH-SULTAN OF ATALAN, WAKER OF THE HIEROTITAN, MONARCH OF THE SKY, MAJESTIC EMPEROR OF THE SHIFTING SANDS, CHAMPION OF THE DESERT GODS, BREAKER OF THE OGRE CLANS, BUILDER OF THE GREAT PYRAMID, TERROR OF THE LIVING, MASTER OF THE NEVER-ENDING HORIZON, MASTER OF THE NECROPOLISES, TAKER OF SOULS, TYRANT TO THE FOOLISH, BEARER OF PTRA'S HOLY BLADE, SCION OF USIRIAN, SCION OF NEHEK, THE GREAT, CHASER OF NIGHTMARES, KEEPER OF THE ROYAL HERAT, FOUNDER OF THE MORTUARY CULT, BANISHER OF THE GRAND HIEROPHANT, HIGH LORD ADMIRAL OF THE DEATHFLEETS, GUARDIAN OF THE CHARNEL PASS, TAMER OF THE LICHE KING, UNLIVING JACKAL LORD, DISMISSER OF THE WARRIOR QUEEN, CHARIOTEER OF THE GODS, HE WHO DOES NOT SERVE, SLAYER OF REDDITTRAS, SCARAB PURGER, FAVOURED OF USIRIAN, PLAYER OF THE GREAT GAME, LIBERATOR OF LIFE, LORD SAND, WRANGLER OF SCORPIONS, EMPEROR OF THE DUNES, ETERNAL SOVEREIGN OF KHEMRI'S LEGIONS, SENESCHAL OF THE GREAT SANDY DESERT, CURSERER OF THE LIVING, REGENT OF THE EASTERN MOUNTAINS, WARDEN OF THE ETERNAL NECROPOLIS, HERALD OF ALL HERALDS, CALLER OF THE BITTER WIND, GOD-TAMER, MASTER OF THE MORTIS RIVER, GUARDIAN OF THE DEAD, GREAT KEEPER OF THE OBELISKS, DEACON OF THE ASH RIVER, BELATED OF WAKERS, GENERAL OF THE MIGHTY FRAME, SUMMONER OF SANDSTORMS, MASTER OF ALL NECROTECTS, PRINCE OF DUST, TYRANT OF ARANY, PURGER OF THE GREENSKIN BREATHERS, KILLER OF THE FALSE GOD'S CHAMPIONS, TYRANT OF THE GOLD DUNES, GOLDEN BONE LORD, AVENGER OF THE DEAD, CARRION MASTER, ETERNAL WARDEN OF NEHEK'S LANDS, BREAKER OF DJAF'S BONDS

    -brought to you by Khemri gang
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    Didn't I almost turn you into a hand-puppet once only for some rats to save you?
    -brought to you by Nagash, he does not need a gang.
     
    And of course our perfectly reasonable MAP spell got renamed to Multidimensional Aethyric Polysevirric Projection by some Bright jerk.

    Bright Wizards!!! *shakesfist*
     
    You know thinking about it, after we inform the Grey College about the whole Skaven Civil war it makes sense that they would inform every Order aligned group with a beef against the Skaven. Seriously this is probably the weakest the Skaven as a whole are going to be in a long time, so we might as well take advantage of it.
     
    noliar said:
    We must not get overheard though. With the coin set to Deceiver, anyone who hears us say we're a HR cultist will be convinced but anyone we explain the truth to will not be. The only way to save ourself would be a different lie: "Of course I don't worship the Horned Rat - Sigmar is all the god I'll ever need!" It's too horrible to contemplate.
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    Imagine if it works on the Horned Rat himself and he's paying attention.
     
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