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Yeah, you can make it safer but outside of damn rare situations, never completely safe. There's exactly one person who can cast Melkoth's Mystifying Miasma casually, and it's Melkoth.
Is that the same with all of his battle spells or do inventors get special privilege?

On other topics... if we didn't have so much else on our plate I kind of want to look some more into the Ulgu rune thing given it's apparently underdeveloped.
 
[X] ENTRANCE: Checkpoint
[X] ENTRANCE: Escherian Nightmare
[X] Bedroom
[X] Library
[X] Vault
[X] Shrine to Ranald
[X] Sitting Room
[X] DUCK: Help Johann try to raise his new rat-wolf pups. With Wolf, if he's willing.
[X] DUCK: Johann's investigation into the ratling gun has hit a wall. See if you can help.
[X] DUCK: Each of your three ducklings can fight in melee. Spar with them, and teach them what you can.
[X] DUCK: Magical target-shooting is rough on normal targets. Set up a specialized target range for your ducklings, and for any other wizards at Eight Peaks.

I really love the Escherian Nightmare option, it feels very wizardly.

@BoneyM, can Mathilde now fast travel via repeatedly spamming FC spells and teleporting as far as possible via the free Smoke and Mirrors, or would the time between castings to do this safely be too large for practical usage vs just Shadowsteed?
 
It's actually not.

Bending space into a pretzel to fuck with people is Hysh, not Ulgu.

Plebian it was all just right angles and dimensional knots.


Where are the mobius strips and klein botts and upside down staircases and three sided squares?

When it comes to confusion ULgu is king.

And hardcore noneuclidean geometry is confusing as shit, so geometric madness is ulgu.
 
Yeah, you can make it safer but outside of damn rare situations, never completely safe. There's exactly one person who can cast Melkoth's Mystifying Miasma casually, and it's Melkoth.

So what you're saying is that if we invent a battle magic spell, become a Legend, and then start using magic to casually fuck with people and reality, we can use our own battle magic as a joke?
 
Well. I suppose Karak Eight Peaks is undergoing some fortification.
The real sign of trust will be if this means that the Citadel's/East Gate's emplaced siege weaponry starts getting repurposed to fortify the Underway instead. That'll be the sign for everyone to do a spit-take.

Like, not moving all of it, obviously, but a lot of the lighter pieces would do more good on other fronts.
 
You know, I imagine that one of the few circumstances and ways in which battle magic is 'safe' to cast...

... is with Slann Mage-Priests casting through Skink Shamans.

The reason for that being: literal ablative armor. The Skink tanks the backlash or miscast and pop goes the Skink, in place of the Slann.

(And also. Was it Skaven Grey Seers or Dark Elf Sorceresses that could use slaves to shunt Wounds received, onto the slaves instead? I remember that combo of things coming up in Ulthuan Quest, but since it must have combined two things, that means that one of them must have been the "have slaves tank a Wound" thing.)


I could also see something similar for Necromancers and "bound souls" or the like. (Though... that might just be a Necromancer-flavored Grounding Rod, come to think of it.)

So yeah. There might be a way to sometimes avoid paying the full risk or cost of battle magics... ... and it's by making somebody else pay it in your stead. And even then, I can imagine that it still might give the Slann a headache if their Skink blows up.
 
So what you're saying is that if we invent a battle magic spell, become a Legend, and then start using magic to casually fuck with people and reality, we can use our own battle magic as a joke?

As long as it's simple enough evidently.

Melkoth's Mystifying Miasma is pretty much babby's first Battle Magic. Though like all Battle Magic, it's still devastating--being able to literally make the entire enemy front line suck at melee for instance.
 
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@BoneyM, can Mathilde now fast travel via repeatedly spamming FC spells and teleporting as far as possible via the free Smoke and Mirrors, or would the time between castings to do this safely be too large for practical usage vs just Shadowsteed?

Only if you really want to explore the miscast table. 'Safe enough to cast reliably' is not the same as 'safe enough to cast thousands of times in a row for hours'.

So what you're saying is that if we invent a battle magic spell, become a Legend, and then start using magic to casually fuck with people and reality, we can use our own battle magic as a joke?

Try it and find out.
 
@BoneyM, can Mathilde now fast travel via repeatedly spamming FC spells and teleporting as far as possible via the free Smoke and Mirrors, or would the time between castings to do this safely be too large for practical usage vs just Shadowsteed?

We've been discouraged from spamming Aethyric Armour over and over to be tireless forever, since we won't miscast under normal situations but casting repeatedly increases the risk.

That's a lesser magic.

Spamming something Fiendishly Complex, with Battle Magic tied into it, is like that only hundreds of times worse.
 
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I suppose nothing puts you closer to your ancestors then when one of those new age projects born from working highly unorthodox stuff has one of the mountains you live in casting the fires of the Ancestor God of the Underworld across your lands only harming your enemies and not you and yours, eh?

Hopefully this helps Belegar.
 
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Yeah, but it's hard to live a life when you're constantly on battle stations to prevent being found by sorcery. Eventually it's easier to just retire and invite the Hobgoblins to wander into the entry of the Grey College and see how well that works out for them.
Fair enough. How did the Hobgoblins get all the way across the world?
 
I suppose nothing puts you closer to your ancestors then when one of those new age projects born from working highly unorthodox stuff has one of the mountains you live in casting the fires of Ancestor God of the Underworld across your lands only harming your enemies and not your and yours, eh?

Hopefully this helps Belegar.
Yeah, it might be able to have a go at what's troubling him; 'Look, this mountain is literally glowing with Ancestorly approval!' and all
 
Everyone remember how much Mathilde loved the hot baths while she was trying to write her matrix paper after the first moves in the Hunter's War? She definitely would see private baths as one of the better luxuries. Plus, imagine hosting the empress.

[X] ENTRANCE: Pleasant foyer

[X] Bedroom
[X] Library
[X] Bath Room
[X] Sitting Room

[X] DUCK: Work with Panoramia for her to finally get around to investigating the greenskin mushrooms she found.
 
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