Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
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If we do decipher the Old One's language how many Elven Archmages, other Imperial Wizards, and Runesmiths will want Mathilde to teach it to them.
fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
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More that there isn't a single wizard in K8P who isn't fairly wealthy even by K8P standards.My favorite part of the update was "Wizard levels of money." Especially when talking to a Grey Wizard who almost certainly was the one who set that standard.
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It does make me wonder what sort of tools that child was able to get his hands on. Also if he was able to instinctively strengthen metal tools.
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Parabola
Divided Loyalties Librarian
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- The Destination of Fate
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- She/Her
My point is not that Shyish has exclusive command over the soul -it doesn't- but rather that 99% of the people who are ever going to write specifically about the soul to the point that their collective writings count as a library bonus are probably going to have some working knowledge of Shyish, Necromancy, or both.
Like, who else is going to write about the soul in practice, in a non-speculative way? So it would make sense, in my mind, for writings on the soul to be part of lessons or points on Shyish or Necromancy.
Bold of you to assume we might not need the aid of Elven Archmages and Runesmiths and other Imperial Wizards to decipher it in the first place.
We weren't talking just abaout Grey Wizards, but the Colleges as a whole.
When you learn that an arcane language is a direct descendant of the language of the Old Ones, keep in mind.
So is Reikspiel.
I don't think it will be possible to make anything that could be called meaningful progress towards deciphering their language without first having learned Saurian. And Mathilde doesn't even know that the Lizardmen are the servants of the Old Ones. Boney directly said that revelation will need to be earned.
Considering that Mathilde has not even learned Saurian, that is an awfully substantial golden chicken you have yet to even acquire money to buy the eggs of.
Precisely, but there's more to it than that. The White Tower is the most reliable source to learn Saurian. Of any language Mathilde can learn, that is probably the closest to the Old One's language as she can get.
Though I'm still skeptical of whether it will be possible in the first place. I doubt that Ulthuan just deciphered Saurian a millennia ago. Even if elves don't have the expertise of humans in languages, quantity is a quality of its own. And if nothing else elves have time.
And written Saurian is hell to learn, based on one of the few can descriptions of it I'm aware of. Assuming that is describing Saurian anyways.
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BagFullOfLizards
Some bag, mostly lizards
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- A bag
I'm super excited about the Old Ones stuff. Not that I expect us to do anything with them, but copies of actual scrolls written by them is such a cool thing to have. Better than vampire tomes and we won't even get burned at the stake for having these!
"She did great deeds all over the Old World, and asked to be paid mostly in books."
I can't help but picture future descriptions of Mathilde:
"She did great deeds all over the Old World, and asked to be paid mostly in books."
Given the known mechanics of magic I cannot imagine how adding more mana makes a spell safer. More powerful sure, more difficult to counter-spell, but less stable and safe to cast.
We had a Patriarch turn up and tell us to stop sitting on our Skaven tech hoard.
We haven't suffered anything else because Mathilde is rarely not doing something obviously productive with her time and resources. However the Collages will not be quiet about her just saving up AV against some future use rather than using or selling it.
And of course there are going to be narrative impacts from what Mathilde does, or doesn't do, with the strategic asset under her control. Just as there have been impacts from her being the Dwarf Diplomacy wizard, the Waystone wizard and the friend of the empress wizard.
The beauty of the favour economy is that the further it stretches the more it offers.
Mathilde turned metal-working favours into book purchases by trading favours between groups that weren't otherwise connected.
Belegar repaid all the College favour Mathilde put on his tab in various ways, often by calling in favours owed to him by other groups.
Money, influence, contacts and introductions. Favours cover all of that and so much more. The colleges will find something to pay with.
Mopman43
Mountain-Hermit of Nitpeak
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- Vermont
We had a Patriarch show up to make a substantial buyout offer for our Skaven hoard.
We could have told him no.
No, we have had one offer to buy it off us. [] No would have been a perfectly valid answer which would have come with no repercussions beside not getting our pay.
This is the relevant part of the Feldmann conversation:
There is a distinct lack of him trying to pressure us, even gently, in the narrative and perhaps more importantly there is no part of the author's note or the vote option that implies there would be any consequences to decline other than the obvious, we keep our stuff and do not get paid. I recall a Boney post that I think applies. Paraphrasing 'do not piss off the velociraptor that lays the golden eggs.' That is how the Empire sees all wizards.
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consequences
Not A Nice Person At All
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- Jerkville
It isn't adding more mana, it's temporarily making local reality more attuned to Ulgu, which is going to force other winds away, which can reduce the potential for mishaps if we don't repeatedly crit fail.
K von Carstein
Likes to go for a walk
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- Belgium
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- He
I'm sorry, but wtf? They know gravity is a thing, but they don't think natural forces could ever make the world as it is?
I mean what reason would you have for believing that with all the magic and the literal seas of Evil Unreality at both poles that defy space time oh and one of the moons is evil.
Mopman43
Mountain-Hermit of Nitpeak
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- Vermont
I mean, they categorically didn't. The modern world is the product of quite a bit of terraforming by the Old Ones and early Slann.
Eisenhelm
gran dutch of douchery
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- Colombia
So have i been saying all this time, but all I get for telling the truth is NASA telling me to cease and desist.
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- Actually pretty lost
The nice thing about connecting these two trading networks is that if any party wants something in the other network but has nothing to offer them directly, they can favour-trade with others who do have something to offer, and use what they earn there instead. It's not a patch on a real currency, but favours are at least somewhat fungible here.
Trickery, illusion, asymmetrical warfare, the protection of homeland. Not all those who wander are lost, but if you are, Ladrielle might point you in the right direction - which might not necessarily be the direction you thought you wanted to go in. If the ones wandering are enemies, intercession more commonly comes in the form of something sharp and metallic to somewhere soft and vulnerable.
Apart from the literal surface-level reading of the matter, the entire thing seems very readable as a homily on the importance of humility and flexibility. Addaioth tried to attack with brute strength against someone who had more of it, and only by discarding His notions of Himself as the strongest and embracing more indirect and less conventionally honourable tactics, as represented by Ladrielle, can he eventually triumph.
Where it's explained at all, it's handwaved away as womanly compassion with a hinting at some sort of relationship between the two. This theory does have a lot of detractors elsewhere, but none of them suggest an alternative in the books Mathilde has.
Nowhere does it seem even implied, but also nowhere does anyone seem to question Her right to eventually intercession in the manner.
It's said that before the Great Vortex, the Gods were more directly involved in the world. It's unclear whether this just means there was more magic floating around that allowed them to be more easily called upon, or whether they were actually physically manifesting in the world, or directly possessing a champion. Ladrielle is said to be the only one still doing that, and it's said that when nothing familiar can be seen, one can sometimes catch a glimpse of Ladrielle walking alongside you.
Ladrielle and the other Gods are said to be living in the heavens and reaching or stepping through to intercede, Ladrielle more often or easily than the others, whereas the Ellinilli are in some way living within the world. Exactly what this means is unclear.
There are variations on compass roses and tendrils of mists that can be said to resemble them if you squint. The most commonly-used one seems to be a Y-shaped symbol, representing a single path branching off into a range of innumerable possibilities.
Yes, some of the 'Dwarven' point for the We is actually books by the We. They're filed under Dwarven because all known We live within the Karaz Ankor.
Ulthuan floats, so it is the only major land mass the Skaven haven't tunnelled their way into, so they encounter them much less than anyone else. Since neither the Asur nor the Eonir can singly muster a +5 of insight, I've folded them together. A +3 Asur (max) and +2 Eonir (max) might be a more understandable (but less neat) way of putting that,.
They can tell you that none of those beetles will ever bite an Elf.
The World's Edge Mountains are too tall to be formed by natural forces. Norsca is too jagged for the wounds upon it to be anything but brand new in geological terms. Ulthuan floats. The continent of Naggaroth has a navigable ocean underneath it. The border between Naggaroth and Lustria only became mountains after the Druchii started poking the lizards. The underground highways of the Karaz Ankor got shattered by someone reversing a few thousand years of continent drift in an instant. Ancient records and legends keep bringing up this rather large island just off the coast of Bretonnia that definitely isn't there any more. Immense plains of skeletons exist from where herd animals drove themselves extinct trying to follow migration paths that disappeared overnight. There's nowhere in the world that matches the description of where the Imperial Tribes left from. There are no poles, you can go north, reach 90 degrees latitude, and continue onwards forever if you survive long enough. The seasons have personality. Half of the planet's tidal forces comes from a body that gives negative fucks about orbital mechanics. There are astral bodies that only appear when it's dramatically appropriate for them to do so. The year is exactly 400 days long. Every planet in the local system has an orbital period divisible by forty days. There is an asteroid crater with teeth and a personality. There is a star that only Wizards can see.
The entire planet is fundamentally unnatural.
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"They Never Look Up: an analysis of which 4 leggers are most easily ambushed and nutritious."
Mopman43
Mountain-Hermit of Nitpeak
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- Vermont
And then there's the Mountains of Mourn, which are probably even taller.
Or the fact that the Southlands somehow has jungle existing on both sides of the WEM, with no rain shadow at all.
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- somewhere over there.
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- They/It
Urban elves stressed out by the lack of prospects where they live blowing off steam by watching and participating in competitive staged debates? They've invented battle rapping.
Is this a play on winter gods or is there new seasons lore I am unfamiliar with?
Pegasi, communication with the dead, and invocations to protect against various kinds of misfortune, generally in the 'let it happen to somebody else' form rather than outright preventing it.
Winter gods, plus associations between the other seasons and various gods.