He's yet to release his long-form birth certificate, but he did live in an era where Ulthuan had no presence in the Old World and the Eonir and Asrai were extremely isolationist. And all the bits of his fluff saying 'it is unknown how he became such a powerful magic-user so long before the establishment of the Colleges of Magic' would be a bit of a non sequitur if he wasn't human. Also the Grey College has his memoirs and if they were written in Eltharin it seems like that would have been mentioned at some point.
Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
- Thread starter Boney
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He's yet to release his long-form birth certificate, but he did live in an era where Ulthuan had no presence in the Old World and the Eonir and Asrai were extremely isolationist. And all the bits of his fluff saying 'it is unknown how he became such a powerful magic-user so long before the establishment of the Colleges of Magic' would be a bit of a non sequitur if he wasn't human. Also the Grey College has his memoirs and if they were written in Eltharin it seems like that would have been mentioned at some point.
Mopman43
Mountain-Hermit of Nitpeak
- Location
- Vermont
One interesting wrinkle is that the Transformation of Kadon might have originally been referring to Mourkhain Kadon. Because in 4th edition tabletop in the 90s, Transformation of Kadon was a spell in Dark Magic, not Beasts.
But obviously the modern presentation is that it's Beast magic, and given the story of Kadon becoming stuck in that form, doesn't seem likely to be referring to Mourkhain Kadon.
But this is probably? the reason that there's more than one Kadon. Because as soon as Transformation of Kadon was Beast magic, they decided to put in more references to this Beastmage Kadon.
But obviously the modern presentation is that it's Beast magic, and given the story of Kadon becoming stuck in that form, doesn't seem likely to be referring to Mourkhain Kadon.
But this is probably? the reason that there's more than one Kadon. Because as soon as Transformation of Kadon was Beast magic, they decided to put in more references to this Beastmage Kadon.
The Phoenixian
The Glacier Witch
- Location
- My own little world
Frozzrik's Flying Fastness landing in the Badlands is a while off, but I do find myself wondering how that event will be changed by the restoration of Karak Eight Peaks and the slowly altered politics towards and within the Badlands ever since then.His name was Fozzrik, not Fozzrick.
If it does end up being in the scope of the quest, I find myself wondering if it's still inhabited and, if so, what such an inhabitant might think of a trade deal showing up after the landing.
Adrian XXIV
Average User, from Poland
- Location
- Poland
- Pronouns
- He/Him
If this is true, then imagine how funny it would be if one of Mathilde's ducklings was named Kadon
pucflek
Verified simpleton
- Location
- Czech Republic
I imagine Fozzrik may have died in it, if it never touched down.
Thebigpieman
I've got this, I think.
- Location
- United States
When I first read this my first immediate thought was John Kadon.
My second immediate thought was... well...
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hv6RbEOlqRo
Mopman43
Mountain-Hermit of Nitpeak
- Location
- Vermont
DL Blood in the Badlands could certainly be an interesting time. Just gather up the K8P Throng and try to get the lootpile before anyone else.
Parabola
Divided Loyalties Librarian
- Location
- The Destination of Fate
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Oh, I see, I didn't remember the conflicting death accounts or the Supreme Patriarch.
...One thing I've always wondered, incidentally: are the Binding Scrolls of Kadon replicable using principles he left behind? Or is there a limited quantity of them?
The Phoenixian
The Glacier Witch
- Location
- My own little world
From the legends, it at least used to make call now and then, given the gathering artifacts. Likewise the notes of plotting the Fortress's course imply that either the would-be-thieves could fly, or they were trying to predict where it could land and failed, and fits more with the limits of the later. The writeup gives little sense of whether that ever stopped or how long ago that was true, but given Fozzrik's magical focus on architecture I wouldn't be surprised if he magically bound himself to his works in one way or another. Could be that the body died but the soul lives on.
deathofrats0808
Don’t think of it as dying; just as leaving early
- Location
- Earth
Have to find it first. It just lands somewhere in the badlands, which are huge.
Mopman43
Mountain-Hermit of Nitpeak
- Location
- Vermont
Supposedly irreplaceable.
I believe Blood in the Badlands had a spell that Fozzrik invented that is able to steal stuff from long distances. Which is how he filled the Fortress with treasures.
- Location
- To the left. No, not there, the other left.
If only K8P had a gyrocopter corps or something.
- Location
- Utrecht
Or the ability to transport a troop of heavily armored infantry.
Blackout
Fed By Comments
- Location
- Who knows?
The Flying Fastness is surrounded by a permanent Storm of Magic. If it was as simple as just flying up to it the Dwarfs or the High Elves could've just done that in the original campaign.
The premise of Blood in the Badlands is that the Flying Fastness is only vulnerable when it's on the ground, and it will land in a random location in the Badlands at the end of the year. Thus, everyone must try to claim as much of the Badlands as they can, hoping that it will land on their territory, allowing them to get to it first. Then they have to defend it against all of the other claimants until it takes off again, allowing them to claim ownership of the Flying Fastness.
MiracleGrow
Miracles for only $19.99 [They/Them]
- Location
- DOOR STUCK DOOR STUCK PLEASE I BEG U
Gryocopter deployed elite troopers would honestly be a huge boon if blood in the badlands happens.
- Location
- Utrecht
Which really says a lot about how freakishly busted it is. A permanent storm of Magic so close to the equator?
- Location
- Utrecht
/Puts on Omegahugger costume: I'm sure nothing could possibly go wrong.
Tasoli
Life is for Living
- Location
- Behind the Keyboard.
I don't know what you are talking about, his notes are completely comphrensble hell it is even very simple to understand, in fact I have copy right here if you want to look;
- Location
- somewhere over there.
- Pronouns
- They/It
...Is it possible that's part of the point? It's a purposefully huge draw on local magic, and travels around draining high but not immediately dangerous concentrations of it to keep a huge castle in the sky.
Or if it's really just because Fozzrik thought flying buildings were neat, I wonder whether that's just a happy side effect.
deathofrats0808
Don’t think of it as dying; just as leaving early
- Location
- Earth
What notes? The book the Grey College has isn't mentioned to contain any such thing, only personal details. I'd guess it's largely a diary and contains little to none of the actual mechanics behind his magic.
pucflek
Verified simpleton
- Location
- Czech Republic
I mean, Fozzrik´s tome is Fozzrik´s tome. We know exactly what insights it contains, Boney has made a meme about it.
Just be so good at casting that the issues that plague literally every human wizard on record don´t exist for you. Its that easy.
@Boney
Really a question for you but maybe it's been previously answered I haven't seen it if so.
I understand Brettonia rejected being a member of the Waystone project because they weren't chosen to host it.(a very petty and believable move for the quasi-French) however have any thought been given their way since we have started seeing success? I know we are essentially blanketing Stirland in the waystones to direct to nexuses and we are starting to crack how to make what I have been calling "ideal" waystones in my head. A great deal of this story or at least the purchasing/item side of it, is focused on the favor trading that happens invisibly in every culture known to man. It has been shown that even the elves and dwarves participate in it and these favors do cross country and species lines. We did it ourselves as a way to recruit for the project to the Light and Jade orders. At this point I think we have proven enough success to get a foot in the door, and do a little trading. Considering who canon Lady of the Lake is, I have to assume that they have a decent understanding of them, when we first met them to decide position of the project they made sure to mention the Iron orcs who only they have seen. (we know they are real obviously).
The big question all this is leading up to is could we horse trade for their participation in this project? Say having a highly successful and extremely knowledgeable grey wizard with a penchant for understanding greenskin culture and recently got to know more about chaos look into it for them?
Really a question for you but maybe it's been previously answered I haven't seen it if so.
I understand Brettonia rejected being a member of the Waystone project because they weren't chosen to host it.
The big question all this is leading up to is could we horse trade for their participation in this project? Say having a highly successful and extremely knowledgeable grey wizard with a penchant for understanding greenskin culture and recently got to know more about chaos look into it for them?
Dermonster
The Shittiest Wizard
It's been more or less intuited at this point that we could have dealt with Brettonias Iron Orc problem in exchange for their help.
Mind, this was at the start of the project, where we were going on nothing but high hopes and accumulated expertise.
Now that we have multiple successful examples and a full-on completed waystone I'm pretty sure we could make them pay us for access to it all.
Mopman43
Mountain-Hermit of Nitpeak
- Location
- Vermont
I think that's a question to ask the thread than Boney.
I think that is certainly something we have the option to try, and there's been a number of debates about it, just nothing that has resulted in us taking action.