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The guy was one of Braganza's Besiegers, the mercenary outfit that Gretel joined way back and now is on permanent retainer by Barak Varr to keep Gretel's lands secured. He knew the whole time that the plan was for him to conceal himself on the boat so Mathilde could replace him.
Speaking of Braganza's Beseigers, do you mind shedding some light on their background? From what I could find, they were founded and hired out by Borgio the Besieger, so I'm curious how they ended up working semi-permanently for Barak Varr.

On that note, would Borgio currently be the Prince of Miragliano in quest? Could be an interesting contact for the Tilean Waystone network.
 
What would the consequences be of us trying to loot Karitamen's tomb? Like, we can just bonk him and be done with it, right?
Apart from having broken our word? And this being borderline necromantic research? Or possibly drawing the wrath of the tomb kings? Or them possibly being right and this being one of Nagashs Dark Lords, in which case we get bonked, which is good because of what everyone else would do to us for setting something like that loose?
 
Speaking of Braganza's Beseigers, do you mind shedding some light on their background? From what I could find, they were founded and hired out by Borgio the Besieger, so I'm curious how they ended up working semi-permanently for Barak Varr.

On that note, would Borgio currently be the Prince of Miragliano in quest? Could be an interesting contact for the Tilean Waystone network.
I think I can answer about why they now work for barak varr, they got hired for the k8p campaign and did fairly well, then when that finished Gretel embedded herself with them and went around adventuring based from k8p and then when barak varrs offer came through she convinced varr and the besiegers to work together.
 
Well, the Border Princes and the southern halves of Averland and Wissenland.
Between these and Nordland, this would make three Imperial provinces which Mathilde had a hand in turning over half their territory to inhuman occupiers.

I'm suddenly picturing a political cartoon in the Altdorf sheets of Mathilde holding an auction for a bunch of gribblies. Do we have a matching bid for Ostland? Ostland, going once, going twice, SOLD to the scaled dame with the lovely eye. Do we have a buyer for Hochland? Hochland, Hochland, lovely forests, good mining, do I hear Hochland? SOLD to the shockingly pale bald sir near the back.
 
I don't know about that- Mathilde expects she was following explicit orders, and the end result will probably be the full support of the Colleges in keeping Karitamen's Tomb hidden from any rambunctious Journeymen.
The issue is that her explicit orders come from the Priory of the Spear, not the fellowship. I'm not sure how they relate to each other exactly in the modern day, but at least some members of the Fellowship certainly object to this bit here:

"Lady Magister. I am Vampire Hunter Alonza Trovatella of the Fellowship-

"No," you interrupt. "Not right now, you aren't."

She studies you carefully for a long moment. "I am Beguine Alonza Trovatella of the Priory of the Spear."
 
Apart from having broken our word? And this being borderline necromantic research? Or possibly drawing the wrath of the tomb kings? Or them possibly being right and this being one of Nagashs Dark Lords, in which case we get bonked, which is good because of what everyone else would do to us for setting something like that loose?
Mathilde didn't make any binding promises on what will happen to the tomb though? She kicked the final decision up for the higher-ups to work out between the Priory and the Colleges. We could ostensibly investigate more closely if we wanted to stick our oars in - and looting tombs isn't anywhere near necromantic research, look at how many attempts the Empire made at stealing stuff from Nehekhara. :p

I think I can answer about why they now work for barak varr, they got hired for the k8p campaign and did fairly well, then when that finished Gretel embedded herself with them and went around adventuring based from k8p and then when barak varrs offer came through she convinced varr and the besiegers to work together.
Yes, I was wondering more about how Barak Varr landed a semi-permanent contract with the Besiegers when they are supposed to be tied to Borgio in canon - they were working as mercenaries to send money back to Borgio in canon.

Do we have a buyer for Hochland? Hochland, Hochland, lovely forests, good mining, do I hear Hochland? SOLD to the shockingly pale bald sir near the back.
Don't be silly, everyone knows Hochland is a fictional place that doesn't exist. :V
 
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The issue is that her explicit orders come from the Priory of the Spear, not the fellowship. I'm not sure how they relate to each other exactly in the modern day, but at least some members of the Fellowship certainly object to this bit here:
Either her bosses know she's with the Priory, or are even members themselves, and it's fine, or they don't know, and she isn't going to tell them.
 
Apart from having broken our word? And this being borderline necromantic research? Or possibly drawing the wrath of the tomb kings? Or them possibly being right and this being one of Nagashs Dark Lords, in which case we get bonked, which is good because of what everyone else would do to us for setting something like that loose?

What's a Nagash's Dark Lord?

Seriously though it is not a vampire progenitor, it is a Tomb King . Even if it were a Vampire progenitor walking in on it and setting it on fire so we can put its ashes on our shelf would in no way be Necromantic Research. What it would be is AP we do not have, not just to find and break into said tomb but also to develop defenses against the curses that are sure to be on said Tomb.

We do not have the time.
 
Speaking of Braganza's Beseigers, do you mind shedding some light on their background? From what I could find, they were founded and hired out by Borgio the Besieger, so I'm curious how they ended up working semi-permanently for Barak Varr.

When Borgio's not actively at war he farms them out for a cut of the pay, and a good relationship with Barak Varr has all sorts of benefits for a Tilean Prince.

On that note, would Borgio currently be the Prince of Miragliano in quest? Could be an interesting contact for the Tilean Waystone network.

Yes.
 
If Mandred becomes Emperor, or to a lesser extent if he's a 'mere' Elector-Count, then every other scion of nobility that ends up in the Bright College is going to want to study Indic magic too. Nothing starts a fashion like royalty. We may have changed the path of the Bright College permanently.
Mathilde would probably be equal parts amused/horrified at inadvertently causing the Bright College to shift from a practical and direct bunch into flashy performers filled with nobility lol.

The issue is that her explicit orders come from the Priory of the Spear, not the fellowship. I'm not sure how they relate to each other exactly in the modern day, but at least some members of the Fellowship certainly object to this bit here:
I took that to mean that Aloza had divided loyalties and was advancing the Priory's agenda undercover, but she's also officially an agent of the Fellowship. It's a moot point though, the Colleges aren't going to be reporting Aloza and getting her into any potential trouble - they'd be working with her Priory contacts (who she got orders from) to settle the matter quietly as agreed.

When Borgio's not actively at war he farms them out for a cut of the pay, and a good relationship with Barak Varr has all sorts of benefits for a Tilean Prince.
Wait, so Borgio contracted the Besiegers out for the long-term with Barak Varr knowing that he'd be unable to call upon the Besiegers if he finds himself at war at some point?
 
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Wait, so Borgio contracted the Besiegers out for the long-term with Barak Varr knowing that he'd be unable to call upon the Besiegers if he finds himself at war?

The money they bring in, both directly in his cut and in the increased profits from favourable trade deals with Barak Varr, can hire even more mercenaries for the brief periods he actually needs them than he'd have if he just paid them to sit around the place getting fat and forgetting how to crossbow. As an alternative to standing armies it's not without flaws, but Borgio knows how to make it work for him.
 
What's a Nagash's Dark Lord?
Nagash lieutenants in the past where named "the nine dark lords", or something to that effect. We lack details, both during his fights with Nehekhara and with Sigmar, except that Arkhan was one of them at some point, and that they were bad news. Some were vampires, some were liches, and some were other unique powerful undead.

It could be one of those in there.
 
What would the consequences be of us trying to loot Karitamen's tomb? Like, we can just bonk him and be done with it, right?
If the tomb is suspected to hold one of Nagash's lieutenants, that would put them on par with Melkhior or Vlad. I don't know how the actual canonical Tomb King compares, but IC Mathilde would be mad to go disturbing an evil of that potential strength that's currently not doing anything.

In a perfect world where the Empire had no other demands on its time and resources, I could see an army fortifying itself around the tomb and a heavily armed, heavily sanctified force going in there to purge the potential threat. Then they could loot the tomb and move whatever's in there from a tomb to some containment they can better monitor and maintain, but that's not the world Mathilde lives in.
 
If the tomb is suspected to hold one of Nagash's lieutenants, that would put them on par with Melkhior or Vlad. I don't know how the actual canonical Tomb King compares, but IC Mathilde would be mad to go disturbing an evil of that potential strength that's currently not doing anything.

In a perfect world where the Empire had no other demands on its time and resources, I could see an army fortifying itself around the tomb and a heavily armed, heavily sanctified force going in there to purge the potential threat. Then they could loot the tomb and move whatever's in there from a tomb to some containment they can better monitor and maintain, but that's not the world Mathilde lives in.
I dunno how much to trust the wiki but apparently some enterprising jackass threw chaos artifacts down that tomb that the Skarab is unwillingly guarding, so its definitely not a place to disturb for more than one reason.
 
We have a number of nexi that need to be reclaimed from the Skaven or the Undead.

And if it's a boss fight we're after, taking down Krell and Kemmler or Melkhior or Zacharias would be better for the world, as they are active and messing shit up, as opposed to sleeping/trapped.

I dunno how much to trust the wiki but apparently some enterprising jackass threw chaos artifacts down that tomb that the Skarab is unwillingly guarding, so its definitely not a place to disturb for more than one reason.
That part is probably going to be butterflied. Virtolle is not going to be taken over by a mere 40 chaos cultists under Gretel's watch. Not with the Besiegers and Barak Varr backing her up.
It's quite likely that the second layer keeping Karitamen trapped was added by the Cultists that took over Virtolle.
 
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That part is probably going to be butterflied. Virtolle is not going to be taken over by a mere 40 chaos cultists under Gretel's watch. Not with the Besiegers and Barak Varr backing her up.
The chaos cult was already in place when Gretel rolled in, part of her takeover involved slaughtering the cult in question and burning the old Vitrolle to the ground before building a new Vitrolle on the other side of the river:
Doyenne Gretel Maurer of the Cessationary Princessipality, Huntsmistress of the Howling Skull Plains, Guardian of the East Trail, Cleanser of Vitrolle, and Barak Varr's chosen implement in securing the road between them and Mad Dog Pass, has made herself quite at home in Vitrolle. Or more specifically, in the newly-built town of that name just across the river of the ruins of the previous Vitrolle, before Gretel and the Besiegers had slaughtered the Cult of the Jade Sceptre that had occupied it and levelled every stick of that previous incarnation of what would become her capital.
 
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The takeover already happened, part of Gretel's takeover involved slaughtering the cult and burning the old Vitrolle to the ground before building a new one on the other side of the river:

So the two chaos artifacts could already have ended up in his tomb and woken Karitamen up, which means that it may not be possible to leave him alone
 
The update did say that Inquisition-type organizations generally stick together to protect their own so asking about the background and business of this Tilean Hunter would've been on a need-to-know basis. Gretel inquiring about the Hunter investigating her would've been suspicious, especially as Gretel is supposed to be acting inconspicuous without revealing her connections. So nah, I don't think Gretel would have been able to get all this information as fast and detailed as Mathilde did, nor would she have extrapolated the right conclusions.

Yeah, I was referring to Altdorfers being so eager to risk their city by displaying Nehekharans artifacts that Mathilde threatening to go digging around at the slightest hint of a tomb was taken completely seriously :V

The Tomb Kings managed to sack Altdorf three different times - I'm sure they could make a decent show at conquering the southern Empire if they really wanted to.
If she'd been asking the organisations that Alonza actually belonged to, MAthilde probably wouldn't have gotten much, but she didn't. She asked the Colleges and the Dwarfs, neither of whom are Inquisition organisations.

Not really? Like, I imagine that if the Colleges get someone going "I'm in x, there's a Witch Hunter poking around, what do we know about them?" they're perfectly happy to respond. They'd probably send someone out there to double check the Wizard in question isn't hiding soemthing, but the most common response if you are is probably to kill the Hunter and hope no one finds out (which is a solid strategy tbh) not ask the Collegs what their track record is.

I did say I thought that Gretel would have gotten the info much slower. And she might not have been able to draw the right conclusions, but that's all about personal skill, not organisational connections.

Not really? There's an enourmous difference between attacking one city and permanently occupying large parts of the Empire. Also, have they? I know they beseiged it once (well, Arkhan did) but he didn't actually sack the city, he just used the seige as a distraction to break in and steal a book from the vaults of the Cult of Sigmar.
 
Personally I find the idea of dealing (and if possible actually talking) with the Tomb Lord quite interesting.
There´s iirc plenty that could be quite amiable so long as you arrive with the intent of being a diplomatic envoy instead of thief or, god forbid, a conqueror.

EDIT: For a dose of d´aww and/or quite nice concept art, an artist known as Inkary on deviantart had a collection of Tomb Kings and Numas nomad interacting (quite noncanon, as quite a few involved non-violent skaven and i doubt the relations between Numas nomads and Tomb Kings are quite that warm, but they still look very nice).

EDIT2: I mean, look at em

 
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