There were a large number of spellbooks in the building she was in that could have helped, though.
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There were a large number of spellbooks in the building she was in that could have helped, though.
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Huh, I would think that the tradition of Dwarf metal dates at least as far back as the fall of Ekrund.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHXUkZmvEJE
Yes, this song is about a genuine event in the Warhammer world. Which... is all I know about it, because I am not a big knower of Warhammer lore, but a quick wiki search dates the fall of Ekrund at -1498 IC, which makes it older than the Emperor old.
Mopman43
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There's not really much to know about Ekrund. It's basically a name on a map.
GW at long last has released a detailed version of the Old World map. There's already a dozen retcons in the making! I am proud of their stunning efficiency.
Karak Vlag is a ruin. Vala-Azril-Ungol is held by Dwarfs. Karak Varn is held by dwarfs too. There are several High Elf towers on the coast of Bretonnia and even one in the Border Princes.
Look at the description of the provinces that makes up Osterlund, the province ruled by Sigismund. They forgot about Hochland.
Maybe it's just the map, but we're on such a great start already.
Mopman43
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Hochland is mentioned?
Ah, whoops! Well, they made the Middenland word cover mostly Hochland on the map. It's close enough for me.
They did forget to mention Nordland. Though they might be going with the WFRP 4e Nordland history.
GW at long last has released a detailed version of the Old World map. There's already a dozen retcons in the making! I am proud of their stunning efficiency.
Karak Vlag is a ruin. Vala-Azril-Ungol is held by Dwarfs. Karak Varn is held by dwarfs too. There are several High Elf towers on the coast of Bretonnia and even one in the Border Princes.
To be fair, there were several attempts to retake K8Ps before Belegar's in canon, we just don't know when they were or how long they lasted.
On the high elf trading posts, I don't think they contradict anything. Marienberg had a monopoly on goods the elves imported from the New World, i.E. Lustria and Naggaroth. I don't think there's anything stopping Finubar from having established trading posts for goods from Ulthuan or the human realms to the south or east.
Just because they'd either gone by the time of old canon or were too insignificant to mention doesn't exclude their existence.
Vlag is pretty inexplicable.
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Huh. Putting an Orb of Sorcery in a gyrocarriage would be overkill, certainly, but it would also be really cool. With that much juice, we could get up to some crazy stuff beyond just sound muffling: Invisibility, teleportation, disguises (it's totally a dragon!), bigger-on-the-inside... But it would be weird to take our non-combat transport gyrocarriage and essentially turn it into a battle altar, I suppose. Cool factor can only justify so much, after all.
*deep breath*
DEAR KING BELEGAR
CC LOREMASTER OKRI
NEW SUPERWEAPON:
ORCHESTRAL GYROCOPTER FLEET
*flops on ground*
Making it look like a dragon is very intriguing, not going to lie. We have a Bright Wizard on board who could provide the flame breath.
I can see the value in making a stealth gyrocopter even if we don't intend for it to enter combat.
For example, consider the putative action to hunt down the Iron Orcs. This would probably be a lot easier if the gyrocopter was silent, invisible from the outside, and had infinite range so it can stay in the air to look for them for hours on end.
They've managed to remain hidden from Damsels and Knights who have had access to flying mounts, but it's harder to hide from an aerial scout that you can't detect and probably needs to land more often.
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SaltyWaffles
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Hochland, Ostland, and Nordland are just gone, apparently. Sudenland exists, though.
GW at long last has released a detailed version of the Old World map. There's already a dozen retcons in the making! I am proud of their stunning efficiency.
Karak Vlag is a ruin. Vala-Azril-Ungol is held by Dwarfs. Karak Varn is held by dwarfs too. There are several High Elf towers on the coast of Bretonnia and even one in the Border Princes.
Look at the description of the provinces that makes up Osterlund, the province ruled by Sigismund. They forgot about Hochland.
Maybe it's just the map, but we're on such a great start already.
The Border Princes are apparently actual states.
The Crooked Moon are now well north of Karaz-a-Karak, in the middle of a bunch of mountains, for some reason.
Estalia and Tilea aren't even worth naming on the map. Or putting any kind of info or detail on whatsoever, because...?
Seriously, even Skavenblight isn't on the map despite the space being there.
Laurelorn is just part of Westerland, now.
And the Red Eyez Tribe of greenskins somehow manages to exist despite being right next to Altdorf and sandwiched in between Altdorf, Talabecland, and Middenland.
Karak Vlag is, somehow, on the eastern side of the World's Edge Mountains and not nearly as far north.
And Karak Ungor is nowhere to be seen.
Oh, and Khazid Vosk is now a fallen dwarfhold right next to Karaz-a-Karak......somehow.
Oh, and the Empire has broken apart for some reason.
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Parabola
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Click on the Sigismund banner thingy and this shows up:
I agree on the general weirdness of most everything else, though.
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Blackout
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That would be because the Old World is set during the Age of Three Emperors.
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The one in the Border Princes is Tor Anrok. It's been moved a fair ways south, but clicking on the map it's still abandoned rather than active.
EDIT: Oh, I missed Talshunar. Yeah, that's new.
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Mopman43
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Oh god, some of the names and settlements are also clickable, but you can't tell which. Seems to only be in Bretonnia and Nehekhara so far.
Apparently Couronne and Artois are both ruled by Duchesses, according to the pop-up when you click their capitals.
Apparently Couronne and Artois are both ruled by Duchesses, according to the pop-up when you click their capitals.
Tor Anrok is a reference to the Gilead's Blood novels, where the eponymous Gilead came from. It was always a recently abandoned elven enclave in the Old World.
And yet they still have wizards employed by the three emperors instead of burning them at the stake. Interesting.
There's also a map of part of Cathay up on that site that talks about a massive desert infected with warpstone by the great maw's impact? Huh.
Luther Harkon is just chilling near Karaz a Karak instead of off in lustria being a pirate apparently?
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That's not really a surprise, for all its a fairly hefty break with established lore. After all, the Empire faction won't sell well if you take all the magic from their roster.
Could easily be Walach Harkon, as a reference to the Vampire Counts army books where he's said to have defeated a dwarf king in single combat and drunk their blood.
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Parabola
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Speaking of elven outposts, one of Boney's old posts notes that there was a former Elf outpost of some kind, Oeragor, in the Badlands, currently in Da Howlaz territory.
There's probably nothing left of it in the modern day, but it'd probably be something we'd investigate if we ever tried to map out what remains of the Badlands network (alongside the fallen Dwarf holds of Ekrund, Karak Azgal, and probably the ruins of Mourkhain).
There's probably nothing left of it in the modern day, but it'd probably be something we'd investigate if we ever tried to map out what remains of the Badlands network (alongside the fallen Dwarf holds of Ekrund, Karak Azgal, and probably the ruins of Mourkhain).
Yeah, the warpstone desert existed previously, I think it gets mentioned in Ogre armybooks and Total Warhammer 3. It also got mentioned in-quest when we got the translated Cathay geography books.
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Warhammer Editions often picked two armies as premier examples for things like starter boxes. I remember 5E was Bretonnia/Lizardmen. 4E was High Elves/Goblins.
Mopman43
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Rather the opposite.
Probably they're being emphasized because the Tomb Kings and Bretonnia are two ranges where their models just flat-out aren't in AoS and weren't able to be bought. Most of the old Elves, Dwarfs, and Empire models were/are in the Cities of Sigmar line, Lizardmen are in Seraphon, I think Ogres got in basically unchanged, etc.
Tomb Kings and Bretonnia got squatted entirely.
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