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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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DragonParadox said:
If the answer to that question is yes are you planning to invade elf Vietnam? If no there isn't much point to poking them and I would submit that there are better places to invade if we are in the mood for that, like the Brass Keep
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If the answer to that is yes... We do what we did at vlag... And turn their tab off.
Now that might provoke them but this option is there to be taken.
 
DragonParadox said:
Oh you mean if Marienburg falls? Sorry for the misunderstanding.

Still in that case we just turn on the Reikland one. Generally speaking I assume most people in the Empire will choose 'loss of farmland' over 'all your land is now Chaos Wastes'. That still does not seem like a very good reason to poke the Asrai anytime soon especially if we have to do a song and dance with Bretonia first to maybe get an in.
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The Reikland nexus links to Castle Parravon, and okay, here's where I hold up my hands and say I was mistaken about something, because I honestly thought it was confirmed that from Castle Parravon the network links to Athel Loren, but it isn't, we don't know where the stream goes forth from Castle Parravon because we don't have a map of the Bretonnian network yet, and I was just making unfounded assumptions.

So I admit my concern about the Reikland Nexus empowering Athel Loren might be overblown, and I apologise for that, but if the flow doesn't go directly west of the Castle, then it must enter the forest at some point, and even if it doesn't, Castle Parravon is right on the edge of the forest and would be a tempting target for the Asrai to attempt to capture anyway (although I'm sure they are well defended for any attack from the forest, but it's still a point of vulnerability).
 
Nerdasaurus Rex said:
The Reikland nexus links to Castle Parravon, and okay, here's where I hold up my hands and say I was mistaken about something, because I honestly thought it was confirmed that from Castle Parravon the network links to Athel Loren, but it isn't, we don't know where the stream goes forth from Castle Parravon because we don't have a map of the Bretonnian network yet, and I was just making unfounded assumptions.

So I admit my concern about the Reikland Nexus empowering Athel Loren might be overblown, and I apologise for that, but if the flow doesn't go directly west of the Castle, then it must enter the forest at some point, and even if it doesn't, Castle Parravon is right on the edge of the forest and would be a tempting target for the Asrai to attempt to capture anyway (although I'm sure they are well defended for any attack from the forest, but it's still a point of vulnerability).
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Not saying your concern is invalid but this is already positing a scenario where Marienburg has fallen and the Asur cannot replace the Nexus, adding the 'Asrai might invade to steal the power' to that chain pushes is quite far down the triage list IMO, especially since the solution starts 'kill some orcs for the Bretonians maybe they have an in'.
 
Mopman43 said:
Unless the Bretonnian network routes through Athel Loren, anyway.

(To get around Mousillon)
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Oh yikes forgot about that. If the route really is Paravon to Quenelles, then Athel Loren doesn't have a nexus on the route. So their ability to tap into it is probably limited? While I don't think that rerouting the magic from Norn could be done that cleanly.

Nerdasaurus Rex said:
The Reikland nexus links to Castle Parravon, and okay, here's where I hold up my hands and say I was mistaken about something, because I honestly thought it was confirmed that from Castle Parravon the network links to Athel Loren, but it isn't, we don't know where the stream goes forth from Castle Parravon because we don't have a map of the Bretonnian network yet, and I was just making unfounded assumptions.
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It would link to Montford. If Athel Yenlui had been near Ubersreik it would have been through Parravon. Athel Yenlui is north of Helmgart.

I'm trying to update the nexus map right now, but I have no clue how to create arrows. Also I want to wait until Ulthuan shares the map.

Fun fact: Castle Quenelles actually doesn't have a wall on the eastern edge of the city. The walls run right up to Athel Loren and stop.
 
I just had a thought:

Boney said:
"On the other side," you say, "it would have to go through Athel Loren. Who are... not particularly cooperative these days, so let's put that as a last resort. Okay, from Couronne it would go to L'Anguille, and from there-"

"Straight west," Hatalath says. "Seas are like mountains, if you're going to cross them you make it as easy as possible."

"I see... wait, no I don't. Straight west of L'Anguille is nothing but ocean until Naggaroth."

Hatalath blinks. "I must be thinking of somewhere else, then," he says, and rather evasively, it seems to you.

You give him a long look. "If not from L'Anguille, then from where to Ulthuan?"

"Los Cabos," Baba Niedzwenka says firmly. "Only a few places you can get Elven goods in the Old World, and one of them is Los Cabos. Bilbali and Magritta make sense, but the only thing significant about Los Cabos is it's right on the southwestern tip of Estalia."

"And from there, straight west," Hatalath says. "To Cothique. That's what I was thinking of." You give Hatalath another long look, and he pretends not to notice.
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We're about to be given just about every piece of useful knowledge the Asur have on the Waystones. Including, presumably, a full map of the Network in the Old World.

Is Mathilde - and by extension, the Colleges and the Empire - about to get confirmation that Albion exists?
 
"Los Cabos," Baba Niedzwenka says firmly. "Only a few places you can get Elven goods in the Old World, and one of them is Los Cabos. Bilbali and Magritta make sense, but the only thing significant about Los Cabos is it's right on the southwestern tip of Estalia."
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Huh, Baba Niedzwenka has definitely gone on vacation in Estalia.
 
Ergosum said:
I just had a thought:



We're about to be given just about every piece of useful knowledge the Asur have on the Waystones. Including, presumably, a full map of the Network in the Old World.

Is Mathilde - and by extension, the Colleges and the Empire - about to get confirmation that Albion exists?
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Only if the Asur know. They might just know there is something along that line re-transmitting without knowing it's Albion.
 
Woltaire said:
oh lol lmao let me go correct that
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I mean, it definitely would be cool if a bunch of spaceships showed up and vaporized morrslieb and a bunch of people in power armor dropped down to say hello and I bet Boney could do a good job of it, it would just be a real surprise if it was a surprise mass effect crossover instead of a bunch of astartes here to purge the planet of xenos and heretics. Which I am just realizing would probably include us since we certainly don't worship Emps. Huh. Actually, I wonder what the imperial faith would make of Sigmar? It would certainly be interesting.
 
[X] [BLOOD] Empire (Canal linking the Urskoy and Lynsk)
[X] [ULTHUAN] Cooperation
 
Wiggy said:
I mean, it definitely would be cool if a bunch of spaceships showed up and vaporized morrslieb and a bunch of people in power armor dropped down to say hello and I bet Boney could do a good job of it, it would just be a real surprise if it was a surprise mass effect crossover instead of a bunch of astartes here to purge the planet of xenos and heretics. Which I am just realizing would probably include us since we certainly don't worship Emps. Huh. Actually, I wonder what the imperial faith would make of Sigmar? It would certainly be interesting.
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They would just say that Sigmar was an aspect of the Emperor or something.

The Imperial Church has a looooong history of converting primitive planets into the fold by just co-opting their native religions and saying that they actually worship the Emperor, and then slowly introducing mainstream Ecclesiarchical doctrine over the next few generations as they are integrated into the Imperium.
 
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Wiggy said:
Actually, I wonder what the imperial faith would make of Sigmar? It would certainly be interesting.
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There are a lot of human worlds with native religions that include a figure that's "close enough" to the Emperor. The Ecclesiarchy files off the heretical edges through judicious applications of violence and gifts to those in power, then repeats to the locals ad nauseam that what they're actually worshipping is a facet of the Emperor himself until it eventually becomes true. In a few decades or centuries all that's left is the Imperial Cult with a few strange traditions unique to the culture.
 
Huh, neat. Kinda surprising to see the imperial cult being actually pragmatic about things and gradually altering the culture instead of going full grimdark convert or burn, but hey.
 
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