I mean the answer to that is 'what they have been doing for the past several thousand years'. We know for a fact that the basic motivation of the Asrai is to protect their forest (random peasants on the edges of the wood know what much) so it is not like they will suddenly blow up their own nexus.
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I mean the answer to that is 'what they have been doing for the past several thousand years'. We know for a fact that the basic motivation of the Asrai is to protect their forest (random peasants on the edges of the wood know what much) so it is not like they will suddenly blow up their own nexus.
Mopman43
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I think the concern is less 'What if they blow it up' as it is 'If we're pumping magic into Athel Loren, are we powering something we don't want to?'
Oh right, yeah, got you. Sorry, I'm in retail and my brain is frazzled this time of year.
Still, I don't think we're super interested in the Asrai's waystone lore, so much as concerned with what they might be doing with it, considering their latent hostility to the rest of the Old World.
That is something you can tell from the maps. Was there an nexus in Tylos? If the answer is yes then yes. My point was not that the Asur maps would be perfect, but that they are as most likely good or better than just flying a gyro overhead to get a birds' eye view of a whole kingdom.
If the answer to that question is yes are you planning to invade elf Vietnam? If no there isn't much point to poking them and I would submit that there are better places to invade if we are in the mood for that, like the Brass Keep
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I don't want to invade elf vietnam. I want to make sure we don't accidentally give elf vietnam WMD's that they can then use when they invade everyone else every spring as they have done for the last 4000 years.
don't they really only invade bretonnian seasonaly?
They have been around and have had that power for literal millennia, in a world with a lot of horrifically dangerous ticking timebombs that does not seem like a likely one. The small trickle of power the project is likely to produce in the near term will not change much.
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I mean, the original purpose of the waystones in the Asrai area was in fact to keep all the stuff they live next to contained in the forest itself. Asrai political opinion on All The Stuff They Live Next To has changed a bit since those days, they PROBABLY haven't blown up their own nexus but at the same time if it turned out they HAD decided to, I wouldn't be surprised!
Bretonnia about 3/4 of the time, the southwest empire about 1/4 of the time is my impression.
didn't realize they invaded the southern empire thought the mountiasn blocked the way mostly good to know
Mathilde just has an incredibly skewed perspective on things. She's been dealing with Marienburg for more than ten minutes and hasn't made a ton of cool new friends, discovered any world shaking insights or found any amazing goodies for her trouble. That puts them in the same category of factions as the Chaos Dwarves and Norscans, and at least she bought some goodies from the Chaos Dwarves and the Norscans let people who paid tolls walk through their land which is still more than she can say for the Marienburgers.
They've attacked the Empire before, Mathilde says as much during the Drycha arc:
"Small trickle of power"? What are you on about? If the Marienburg Nexus falls, our only solution is to use the Reikland Nexus or the Bugman's Nexus to reroute the entire Old World waystone network south via Athel Loren. I wouldn't call the energies of an entire continent "a small trickle".
I thought you meant you do not want to give the Asrai more power to do Asrai things with
As for if the nexus falls.... Is there any reasonable indication that it is about to do so? That it is in anymore danger than it was at any other time in its life. If anything the only info we have points in the other direction since Cor Dum is stuck on the other side of the planet.
Mopman43
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The Marienburg Nexus already fell once- Ulthuan had to replace it after the Great War Against Chaos.
where that map someone in thread made of the waystone network in the old world having trouble finding it
Karak Norn seems to have cut off the energy flow to Athel Loren. What energy it harvests is sent to Bugman's Brewery.
Athel Loren is not receiving any magic other than that which blows in. Going from that to the the majority of the harvest of a continent would be a significant shift and would poses a large risk of getting them to unleash a mega wild hunt.
Wait if they are being bypassed at the moment why not just leave them like that?
Mopman43
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Unless the Bretonnian network routes through Athel Loren, anyway.
(To get around Mousillon)
I don't want to give them more power, but we might not have a choice if the Marienburg nexus falls. Speaking of which...
It did fall, 200 years ago, during the great war against chaos. Ulthuan sneakily restored it before the Empire collapsed from Dhar buildup, but it did happen, it was a whole thing. Mathilde even says as much to the Emperor:
Oh you mean if Marienburg falls? Sorry for the misunderstanding.
Still in that case we just turn on the Reikland one. Generally speaking I assume most people in the Empire will choose 'loss of farmland' over 'all your land is now Chaos Wastes'. That still does not seem like a very good reason to poke the Asrai anytime soon especially if we have to do a song and dance with Bretonia first to maybe get an in.
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They took the blood price for that in the battle of Gorcher Marsh so I would call it that a wash personally.and people say asur haven't done anything for the empire
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World Roots. The Asrai have historically raided even Naggarond iirc.
Here. Everything to the west of the Grey mountains is speculative, Mathilde didn't actually go and map any of it, except that with Gisoreux and Couronne the leylines she saw on the east side of the mountains were headed in the right direction for a nexus there so that's pretty much confirmed. We believe that on the way to Los Cabos the magic of the Empire and Bretonnia goes through Athel Loren. That means that if the L'Anguille nexus ever falls then all of that magic will pass through Athel Loren - though again, we haven't actually mapped that part of the network, some or all of this could be wrong.