Frothy Discussion: A Boris Bokha Negaverse
And well, someone proposes a wild write-in. The thread immediately erupts in very, uh, frosty discussion. There's over fifty pages of discussion in just the first day. Things go in circles a handful of times, but since there was already a strong movement to starting a civil war any turn now (their Elfcation equivalent), it is accepted as compromise. At this point even the people who love Vladimir have to accept that he's actively hampering the nation. This is reflected in Boris' stoic yet already-grieving demeanor.
Frothy Discussion: A Boris Bokha Negaverse
Note: I am not going to do the typical Negaverse thing of coming up with alternative handles for users in the thread since a lot of this is going to be panicking and fearmongering. I will be the first to admit I have done both, but I do not want to risk anyone being upset by what is meant to be a bit of harmless play, so with that in mind the handles will be the players in-thread 'affiliations' and with no reference to anyone
Hawk Prime said:[] Ask Lord Magister Weber to Assassinate your father, once you are Tsar you will be able to give her all the support she needs and pay her in full.
I know this sounds insane guys, but think about it a single knife in the dark, a single death could spare Kislev civil war and in terms of personal anguish for Boris that would be almost as valuable. War is bad enough but there is no war more grim than that between brothers as it were. Not to mention that a trained assassin would be able to kill old Vlad painlessly rather than having to face his son and heir on the battle field or at best be killed in a palace coup.
PeaceInKislev said:...What? No seriously, what?
She is an agent of a foreign power, one that is interested in stability. Do you know how you get more stability in Kislev? By dealing with the prince that wants to openly kill his father. She will spill the beans the moment we even hint at that. Or worse she will blackmail us or how about this she just kills Boris since he is clearly the person destabilizing the realm.
InSearchOfUtility said:Come on it's not that bad, not like we are gong to tell her that if she does not do this Boris is moving on to coup and civil war. It would be spooky witch's word against ours. Who do you think Vladimir is going to believe at that point?
HonorableSoul99 said:I cannot believe we are even having this conversation... *sigh* the Chaos Gods must be laughing.
Hawk Prime said:New plan version:
[] Ask Lord Magister Weber to Assassinate your father, once you are Tsar you will be able to give her all the support she needs and pay her in full. Make it clear that if she does not do the deed you will have to take matters into your hands.
If we are going to do this it's no place for half-messures. When you play the Game of Thrones you win or you die
HonorableSoul99 said:WHY ARE YOU QUOTING CERSEI LANNISTER?
*breathes in*
Listen the White Walkers are coming, to stay in the same register, we cannot afford to be disunited. We can just do this in secret and by the time Vlad notices it will be too late for him to countermand it without looking weak.
InSearchOfUtility said:Yeah I am going to have to agree with the Right Honorable Fellow up there, we a should not be betting everything on one roll of the dice. This is something we can do the usual way, let winter and hunger do our job for us. It is not like Vlad isn't rolling death dice anyway from all the hunting he does.
Hawk Secundus said:Vladimir will indeed look weak if he countermands out command unless he calls Boris to heel at the same time and makes a show of it. Do you think he wouldn't do that? Or that our prestige can tank the hit? The same prestige mind that we need to fight in a civil war since that is what draws nobles and soldiers to our banner once this kicks off.
We can't have it both ways either we subvert the Tsar to get more prep in and hope to Ursum he dies a natural death soon, or we are a good little princeling, take prestige and gold boosters until the war sounds off.
PeaceInKislev said:Well maybe some of us do not want civil war just because Boris is so prideful that he is willing to stain his hands with the blood of his father. You guys ever thought about that?
IAmSwitserland said:Not this again, we are not corrupted by Chaos. We had four divine visitations this quest, five if you count the Tavern Crawl that Will Not Be Mentioned. How do you think we are tricking the Gods, the Land?
Heh, maybe Boris is secretly the Changeling and we do not know
Hawk Prime said:*compilation of quotes from earlier in the thread involving talks with Mathilde*
Does this woman sound like someone who is going to blackmail us for fun? Who is going to assassinate Boris because he wanted to protect his people from Chaos? She managed to reinvent Geomancy by getting elves and dwarfs to get along. That is like Matrioshka levels of miracle. Do you think this woman will not jump at the chance to spread her work in Kislev?
HonorableSoul99 said:I think this is not the kind of thing you ask of an ally if you want them to stay your ally. Boris will prove himself at a bare minimum untrustworthy.
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