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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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StormySky said:
@Boney Is it fair to say that there are no Imperial books on Ancestor Gods even though Imperial Dwarves exist and sometimes write about them, because the ones who do have meaningful amounts of information on them are still too culturally Karaz Ankor, while those who can be said to be Imperial in mindset have forgotten or moved away from them (and therefore have no meaningful information)?

On a similar tangent, do the Chaos Dwarves count as having books on the topic since they followed the Ancestor Gods once and probably retained some knowledge, or did they intentionally burn and forget as much as they could (even at the expense of having less to use against Karaz Ankor dwarves) during their conversion to Hashut?
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Mathilde would need to know a lot more about those respective cultures to be able to come up with an answer.
 
You know I wonder if the Grey College has a theatre/acting club and/or classes? Like I can imagine the apprentices learning it as part of their stealth training and at least one Grey Wizard setting up and running a Theatre troupe as their method of intel gathering/income.
 
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Magda Wessen: Secrets of the Dark Lands
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    • Dragonofelder said:
    Gives me an idea for MAGDA WESSEN story...
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    MAGDA WESSEN, widely acclaimed MASTER WIZARD, returns once again to AID her DEAREST ALLIES, the redoubtable DWARFS. After her GREAT SUCCESS in REDISCOVERING THE ELVEN WAYSTONES, many obstacles still BARR THE WAY to SAVING THE OLD WORLD. The SECRETS OF THE GOLDEN AGE have been LOST, and she must REDISCOVER them so the GREAT AIRSHIP GRUNGNI can FLY AGAIN. But no dwarfs still remembers, so she must turn to DARKER SOURCES. Now she will travel across the PLANE OF BONES in her SECRET PERSONA of GABRIELLA VON UMSHADOWHOME to wrest the SECRETS OF THE ANCESTOR GODS from the TYRANNICAL and CRUEL hands of the FIRE DWARFS.

    But will the PRESENCE of the DOMIEERING PRIEST OF HASHUT conspire to DRAG HER INTO DARKNESS? She must work with the IRON ORKS and their BRUTAL YET CUNNING LEADER who offer help in RETURN FOR FREEDOM, but will her TRUST be REPAID?

    FAR FROM ALLIES, MAGDA WESSEN will FACE DANGERS like she has NEVER BEFORE.
     
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    • Sinsystems said:
    You know I wonder if the Grey College has a theatre/acting club and/or classes? Like I can imagine the apprentices learning it as part of their stealth training and at least one Grey Wizard setting up and running a Theatre troupe as their method of intel gathering/income.
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    We can pay gold to set up a thing with one of the major theatres in Altdorf. It came up when we were brainstorming ways to fix her "seen but not heard" trait.

    Personally I think it's not worth the time—I'd rather be training her by giving her real world scenarios to solve (like the charcoal) than sending her off to theater school.

    There probably is a grey wizard out there who runs a troupe, but it's outside of Mathilde's sphere.
     
    Somic said:
    Ah yes, the elemental plane of spooky calcium :V

    Jokes aside, this is awesome and I'd read it!
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    Yeah, it's a plane because it's so flat. English is great with avoiding homophones and words that are written similarly and mean something similar but slightly different (for example, it's really easy to find wrest if you can't remember the spelling, because there's no similar word like wrestle that will dominate your search results instead. Which is great and avoids frustrating time wastes). So plane must be the correct word.
     
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    BurnNote said:
    Yeah, it's a plane because it's so flat. English is great with avoiding homophones and words that are written similarly and mean something similar but slightly different (for example, it's really easy to find wrest if you can't remember the spelling, because there's no similar word like wrestle that will dominate your search results instead. Which is great and avoids frustrating time wastes). So plane must be the correct word.
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    ...shit, 'plane' can't be a synonym for 'plain'? English, what the hell, 'plain' sounds weird, let 'plane' be usable!
     
    Plain as in unobstructed

    Plain as in undecorated

    Plain as in not attractive

    Plain as in a flat piece of land

    Plain as in simple

    Plane as in a flat surface

    Plane as in an aircraft

    Plane as in a woodworking tool

    Plane as in a large tree

    Plane as in removing strips from a length of wood

    "The plain plane was used to plane the plain plain plane"

    "The simple tool was used to remove a strip of wood from the tree taken from the flat, unattractive strip of land"

    ... Plain and plane no longer look like real words.

    And don't even get me started on "Buffalo".
     
    Andres said:
    Once we have the CF for it, I think we should get +5 Eonir Anatomy and Medicine, spend 10 CF to get them translated, and donate the translated copies to the Cult of Shallya. I reckon that within a single year, that'll save as many lives as the MATHILDE towers would in a century.
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    I also think this is a great idea, but I was concerned about the feasibility of information spread so I dug through Boney's posts about Shallya.

    For some reason I had thought that the Cult of Shallya was very decentralized, but;

    Per the Order of Mysteries rep, during
    The Marriage of Prince Kazrik and Princess Edda, Part 3
    "The Cult of Verena does not have the rigid hierarchy of, say, the Cult of Shallya, or even that of your own Orders," says the small man with large, round glasses and a sword on his waist that almost scrapes the ground. "We of the Order of Mysteries are one of the few formal organizations within the Cult, organized as we are under the High Priest of Altdorf, and there are also the Templars of the Order of the Everlasting Light and the Order of the Sword and Scale. In contrast, the other 'Orders' within the Cult are better thought of as schools or philosophies. Each courthouse and library is subject only to law, truth, and Verena, and I'm sure you can imagine how opinions may differ in what these all have to say. It is with regret that I say that short of divine intervention, you have no option but to approach each library as its own entity."
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    (The rest of the paragraph included to show the contrast of a low-centralization Cult)

    Additionally, the seat of power of the Cult of Shallya is in Couronne, not the Empire.
     
    Speaking of Verena, if we are distributing a large amount of knowledge to a cult, we should give it to the Verenians as well as the Shallyaians. Don't want to snub them again.
     
    In theory, we could share the books with the Shallyans by entering into a book-sharing agreement with the Cult.

    I imagine at least the headquarters in Couronne has to have some kind of library.
     
    Andres said:
    Once we have the CF for it, I think we should get +5 Eonir Anatomy and Medicine, spend 10 CF to get them translated, and donate the translated copies to the Cult of Shallya. I reckon that within a single year, that'll save as many lives as the MATHILDE towers would in a century.
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    I think elves practice galenic medicine. Just at a higher skill level.
    Which is to say, they mostly act as herbalists and prescribe diet adjustments.
    And have come up with a theoretical system based on quantities of internal humors to explain why those treatments work.
    Elves probably don't do the human thing of bleeding people or prescribing laxitives in order to forcibly reduce the level of one type of internal humor.
    But elves also don't get diseases, so they won't have germ theory or probably even the contagion theory of plague spread, and they don't get nearly enough corpses passing through for dissection and internal anatomy to be anywhere as easy a direction of development as it is for humans.

    Parabola said:
    It's a good idea. Right now we've been stockpiling CF for the Orbflex, but honestly, we otherwise accumulate it pretty quickly, and don't really use it for stuff beyond buying college books out-of-pocket and sometimes a few classes. It's not something we ever really lack.

    ...Not sure if Eonir anatomy books would of much practical help to Shallyans, but the Medicine ones, 100%.
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    We could stockpile CF for getting a flying tower? Pack it with research labs or army destroying weaponry?
     
    guyfromtheplace1 said:
    think elves practice galenic medicine. Just at a higher skill level.
    Which is to say, they mostly act as herbalists and prescribe diet adjustments.
    And have come up with a theoretical system based on quantities of internal humors to explain why those treatments work.
    Elves probably don't do the human thing of bleeding people or prescribing laxitives in order to forcibly reduce the level of one type of internal humor.
    But elves also don't get diseases, so they won't have germ theory or probably even the contagion theory of plague spread, and they don't get nearly enough corpses passing through for dissection and internal anatomy to be anywhere as easy a direction of development as it is for humans.
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    I'd bet that Elves just use magic to sovle a lot of their medical problems. They're a lot more comfortable with it, and they have more mages per capita than the Empire or human nations do.

    guyfromtheplace1 said:
    I thought it was cannon that they weren't affected by the plagues of nurgle?
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    No. Elves are "less vulnerable" to disease, but not immune, and certainly not to Nurglite plagues.
     
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