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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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This was really smooth... now, well, on to the rest of the turn

What is still left? Foundations, Liminal realms and Rite of Way negotiations?

This has been a really interesting turn so far.
 
I wonder what configuration of rolls it would have taken for his bedroom buddy to have secretly been a Lahmian? Can't imagine how neatly that could have tied things up. Or how messy it could have been.
 
Carcer said:
real question ,what is the statue of forensic medicine in the old world of warhammer?, I have difficulty imagining a pseudo medieval setting with necromancer problems being very comfortable with a guy who opens a body to see what is happening going inside, I seem to remember reference to this a while ago in the quest?

Because if it's seen as bad wouldn't it be a little weird if our client request an autopsy ?
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Just to point out something about this concern that I've seen here and in a few other posts.

If for some reason there weren't an autopsy and the death were declared to be natural causes... that works too. Blaming the Lahmanians would be useful. Having the Tzar pass away in his sleep through some mysterious medical ailment, surprising but not unheard of, would also be good in its own way. Either works.
 
Well, if we judge by part number, we've reached Part 5 and there's still a fair number of actions left.

Is the highest Turn 40 with 7 Parts?
 
Dark as Silver said:
Erm...
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Shadow Knives - Conjures up a number of shadowy projectiles that can be hurled at one or more opponents nearby. Furthermore, their shadowy nature means that all non-magic armour is ignored.[1d]

Yeah I dunno if they pass through walls, I can't think why they wouldn't however seems hard to aim, but they do ignore armour.
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They definitely can pass through more than just armor, as shown in Trouble in Talabheim:
Boney said:
[ ] Kill: Shadow Knives
Shadow Knives can pass through armour, so the thin wood of a sedan chair's wall will pose no obstacle. Riddle Alberich with magical knives. If you do it from the right angle the porters might not even notice that their passenger has died.
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I imagine Boris's reaction to his father's death would to immediately order some of the best magical defenses he can. Because while he may have ordered the death I imagine the sheer ease at which Mathilde did it would still freak him out about the same thing happening to him. Plus since he would be blaming the Lahmians no one would bat an eye at the added security measures for the new Tzar.
 
So now that we effectively have the boon in payment, even if it is not on our sheet yet a more detailed look at what we could get with it:

Book Boon 2.0
Every single book in Kislev that Boris can get his hands on

Pros
  • We are just better at all sorts of things +5 when your dice size is 100 is quite a lot actually
  • Narratively we know more, we have a Kislevite perspective on a lot of things, which is all the more interesting when you consider that they are newcomers to the Old World and form a branch of peoples that has no other representatives on the side of Order. I mean hell (pun intended) their magical languages derive from Arcane Daemonic
  • This is probably our only chance to get magical books out of Kislev, any deal short of this is unlikely to get say the Sevir books which could improve the AV paper
  • We would actually be preserving those books before a Chaos invasion comes, as shown by the fall of Praag and the loss of all its respositories of knowlege this is very much a concern we should take seriously
Cons
  • Mathilde would have to learn another language to actually use the books, that is 1-2 AP depending on how high we roll which is not easy to fit in
  • This probably delays learning Nehekaran even more since I doubt the thread would be up for back to back language learning
Imperial Horse-trading
Give it to the Emperor/Chancelor/Someone in gouvernment

Pros
  • The Emepror will probably like us for it, quite a lot in fact, this is a heavy duty debt we are talking about here
  • It will probably end up getting used against Marienburg
  • Lutipold is a sensibile person and probably would not make use of it in a way that would mess with preparations for the next Everchosen
Cons
  • *Tsar of Kislev has just been assassianted* pause *LM who has the most dealings with Kislev says she has a Transcendent Favor with the new Tsar* Conclusion??? :V

Any other ideas?
 
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KingCrimson1081 said:
I imagine Boris's reaction to his father's death would to immediately order some of the best magical defenses he can. Because while he may have ordered the death I imagine the sheer ease at which Mathilde did it would still freak him out about the same thing happening to him. Plus since he would be blaming the Lahmians no one would bat an eye at the added security measures for the new Tzar.
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Honestly, it's just occurred to me that this is another excellent use case for Egrim's wind chime wind detector.
 
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    • Mathilde tossed and turned as she lay in her bed in Eightpeaks, sleeping fitfully. Panoramia, forced out of slumber by sharp elbows and murmured snarls, sat nearby nursing a cup of tea, watching anxiously and waiting quietly for her to calm, or for the sun to rise.

    "Oh Mattie, what did you see this time?"

    ............


    Mathilde slipped into the room.

    The fire had burned low and the two figures lying in the kingly bed were still as she moved quietly to stand over them. No servants disturbed her as she wove ulgu, no other lovers snuck in to snuggle under the bearskin covers. The matrix and the shadowknife drifted into place.

    "I'm sorry," Mathilde whispered as she stared down into Heidi's sleeping face, "but you just weren't doing enough."

    The matrix triggered, and Heidi's inhalation stopped, and her lungs emptied with a soft sigh.

    Mathilde left, not noticing the tears trickling down her cheeks.

    ................

    Mathilde slipped into the room.

    The fire had burned low and the two figures lying in the kingly bed were still as she moved quietly to stand over them. No servants disturbed her as she wove ulgu, no other lovers snuck in to snuggle under the bearskin covers. The matrix and the shadowknife drifted into place.

    "I wish.... I wish you hadn't pushed so hard. I wish you had just let go of your pride and compromised. I wish you hadn't turned your eyes away from the real enemy... I wish you hadn't made me do this."

    The al-Ulric's eyes began to flutter open as Mathilde whispered. She triggered the matrix.

    His inhalation stopped, and his lungs emptied with a soft sigh.

    ...............


    Mathilde slipped into the room.

    The fire had burned low and the bed was rumpled by the compact body sprawled across a bearskin. The matrix and the shadowknife drifted into place.

    "...die well." Was all Mathilde said.

    The matrix triggered; Thorgrim's inhalation stopped, and his lungs emptied with a soft sigh.

    .........

    Mathilde slipped into the room.

    The fire had burned low and the bed was soft and comfortable. Panoramia lay in the dimness, eyes closed and a strand of hair fluttering over her mouth as she breathed. Mathilde cried as she began to weave the matrix.

    "I'm sorry. I'm so sorry. You are such a good person and I love you so much. But you just aren't doing enough, and I can't- I can't risk-"

    .............

    Mathilde awoke with a strangled sob, sitting bolt upright and choking back tears and horror. Pan was at her side in a moment, wrapping an arm around her.

    Mathilde flinched. Pan hesitated. Then Mathilde threw herself into the embrace and burrowed her face into Pan's neck, breath shuddering.

    They sat like that, perhaps for hours.

    Finally Mathilde's heart slowed, and her breathing evened out. She pulled back, looking up at the soft eyes of her paramour, searching for... something.

    "Do you want to talk about it?"

    Mathilde nodded, and remained silent.

    "Can you talk about it?"

    Mathilde shook her head.

    "Oh Mattie," Panoramia pulled her back into a hug, "I'm worried; I've never seen you like this before, not even after the black college. I'm.... I'm not happy you can't talk about it, but I understand. I wish I could help. Can you tell me why this is hurting you so much, this time, at least?"

    "I think," Mathilde swallowed thickly, "I think that this time, I feel guilty."

    Pan's breath left her lungs with a soft sigh.
     
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    • Was just thinking that guilt and trauma wouldn't be limited to Boris alone over this.

    Pretty much every other kill Mathilde has ever made, I think she's been able to justify on the choices and character of the one she is killing? This time was not like that.
     
    Glau said:
    Was just thinking that guilt and trauma wouldn't be limited to Boris alone over this.

    Pretty much every other kill Mathilde has ever made, I think she's been able to justify on the choices and character of the one she is killing? This time was not like that.
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    I think this is mostly true, the only other case that comes to mind are the rat mothers.
     
    I am going to put a personal vote on [ :V ] Not guilty, to counterbalance the vibe. I don't feel the need for the thread to take a lap on the bumper car track of guilt; closed courses always end up where they began.

    If we really feel bad about it, we can always bind an Apparition in his honor. Seeing an animated phantom of his father come again to defend Kislev in its darkest hour will surely cheer Boris up!
     
    If we get too upset about it I say we create a self targeted version of Mind Hole and erase that we ever did this from our memory alongside any and all memories we have of the old Tzar.

    We can descend down a dark spiral of forgetting the horrible deeds we have done, doing another "just this once" horrible deed, reinventing a self targeted mind hole spell, and erasing another part of our memory to sleep at night.

    Soon enough we are just another Magister Gray in the Gray College, having carved so many holes in our memory that only the cold blooded assassin of the Empire remains, willing to do whatever it takes to advance the Empire knowing in the back of our swiss cheese like mind that we will just erase the guilt to sleep so it may as well be us to dirty our hands.

    Tzneeche - "I only touched her the once guys I swear. This one wasn't me!"
     
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    Frankly I'm more in line with Mathilde's Ranaldian line of thought here.

    With great power comes great responsibility and all that, especially when that power comes at cost to others- Vlad had all the power but took no responsibility for it, even blocking his son's efforts to make up for his deficiencies.

    He wasn't evil, but he was willing to stand by and do nothing- and when you're a head of state, that's bad enough.
     
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