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And so with barely 800 words, a sovereign dies.

Ulgu is terrifying.

With a Tsarevich that knows to call for an autopsy, yes. His heart got shredded within his chest.

Imagine being the dude who has to do the autopsy. Everything looks mostly normal, then you get to the heart and go "That's funny."

Then it slowly dawns on you what you're looking at. And you're the guy who has to report it.

Well, probably not as bad a day as the lover, or even worse, the son have.
 
Going back to tributaries, I wonder if Mathilde will tell Boris that actually, she's found out that Kislev's part of the network is its own mini-vortex that feeds Ice Magic via the Widow transforming the Winds and Dhar in it.

...My gut instinct is 'probably not', given that it's sensitive information, but on the other hand, if he got told that Kislev has its own mini-Vortex which feeds the Widow and the Ice Witches, it might make him prioritize them and take them into account more strategically. Ice Magic flowing through the nexus locations means Ice Witches should be able to take great advantage of them.
 
Side note, since Kislev has their trick going with the Waystone network reroute feeding magic to the Widow that probably means that the Tributaries will result in the Ice Witches having more magic to play with.

Which, once they realize this, will heavily incentivize them to set up more tributaries ASAP.
 
Going back to tributaries, I wonder if Mathilde will tell Boris that actually, she's found out that Kislev's part of the network is its own mini-vortex that feeds Ice Magic via the Widow transforming the Winds and Dhar in it.

...My gut instinct is 'probably not', given that it's sensitive information, but on the other hand, if he got told that Kislev has its own mini-Vortex which feeds the Widow and the Ice Witches, it might make him prioritize them and take them into account more strategically. Ice Magic flowing through the nexus locations means Ice Witches should be able to take great advantage of them.

It's not really secret information anymore, not only do the Asur know (and are pissed) but now everyone in the Project knows, there are probably random elf mages who take classes with Sarvoi who know by now, it's not like he has any reason to keep quiet
 
As far as I know it's not explicitly spelled out anywhere, but you can read it into canon if you put even a little bit of effort in. Everything about Dazh reads as extremely twink-y, the Bear God loves Him so much that bears sleep at winter because they're sad that He's gone, and His dancing and literally flaming angels, the Arari, don't have a specified gender but are getting boinked on the reg by Tor.
Given Ursun's depiction in Warhammer 3, I suppose this means that all gods are physically large.
 
You know... I don't think it can be understated how the hopeful new Tzar must be knowingly handing his ass to the emperor. He must know that we are loyal to the Empire, very likely to be willing to die for the Empire.

And if the Emperor ever wants to end the Tzar's reign all he needs to do is burn one gray magester and boom he can prove that the Tzar is a kinslayer, and he can say he honestly ordered none of it. He can just "uncover" the crimes of his subordinate and order us hung. He may even actually hang us rather than we just change our name and hairstyle.

The Emperor will have damned solid blackmail over the Tzar for at least a generation.
That Boris would go that far more or less proves that this isn't simply a power grab, since he's potentially putting himself under the thumb of the Empire, and it underlines just how desperate he is. Obviously he believes Chaos is coming, but he also must be utterly convinced that his father will simply not step up.

I wonder what sort of conversations would've lead to the moment of the request. What did Vladimir say when Boris told him that Kislev must prepare? Is he delusional, thinking there's nothing to worry about? Is he complacent, hoping that things will just work themselves out? Maybe he's fatalistic about it, thinking that he's not up to the task of reining in the Boyars, so there's no point even trying.

Maybe it's a matter of pride. Boris believes that his father wouldn't agree to the tributaries because they come from an Imperial project, and maybe some of the steps Boris asked him to take also involved external help. That may also be why Boris is willing to give the Empire rope to hang him with - he knows the state Kislev is in, and he knows that even in the most optimistic scenarios Kislev will need help if it's to have any hope to stand against the next Everchosen. Maybe Boris is willing to put himself at the mercy of the Empire because he believes that Kislev is, at least to some extent, already at its mercy.
 
Side note, since Kislev has their trick going with the Waystone network reroute feeding magic to the Widow that probably means that the Tributaries will result in the Ice Witches having more magic to play with.

Which, once they realize this, will heavily incentivize them to set up more tributaries ASAP.
Assuming they don't think it's part of some plot to corrupt the Widow by feeding her energy using untrustworthy devices built by foreign agents.
 
It's not really secret information anymore, not only do the Asur know (and are pissed) but now everyone in the Project knows, there are probably random elf mages who take classes with Sarvoi who know by now, it's not like he has any reason to keep quiet
True, true. I suppose the Eonir wouldn't have anyone to tell since they've only barely begun peeking out from their forest, and Thorek has no reason to tell anyone, but I imagine the humans have told their respective groups.

Side note, since Kislev has their trick going with the Waystone network reroute feeding magic to the Widow that probably means that the Tributaries will result in the Ice Witches having more magic to play with.

Which, once they realize this, will heavily incentivize them to set up more tributaries ASAP.
They have to already know. Maybe the Apprentices don't know in the specifics, but they know institutionally that the waystone network feeds into the Widow (somehow), and the Widow is the source of their powers, so the more the network absorbs bad foreign energy (Chaos), the more room for good energy (Ice Magic) there is. It might be a burden to Her, but it seems like one that She takes on willingly.

...And on this note, I think that the last time the Kislevite network came up, there was some speculation that it was only possible because of the Widow's nature. "Kislev is land, land is Kislev, we are Kislev."

@BoneyM, what did the Ice Witches look like to Mathilde's Soul Sight? Could she easily see their emotions, or were they all hard to distinguish from [whatever weird state their souls are in] like how Wizards have souls that are always strongly aspected to a single wind ?
Weird. Like a human-shaped outcropping of the soil.
Militsa Lushadoch Gmelin said:
"Long ago, many Gospodar clans lived upon the Endless Steppe. Like today, it was a vast province and was lashed with the terrible energies of Chaos. The Gospodars were beset by all manner of foul foes, and the Daemon Gods offered surcease from these attacks if the Gospodars would but bow their heads in worship. But the Gospodars were stubborn. Unlike their neighbouring tribes—the Kurgan, the Hung, and the Norse—they would not be coerced; instead, they turned to other Gods, Gods they hoped could protect them from the northern taint. Most important among these was Ursun the Bear, who taught his worshippers how to survive the freezing winters, how to war against Chaos, and how to respect the spirits of the land. But, even with Ursun's help, the Gospodars' plight was desperate.

Then a great spirit—called "The Ancient Widow," "Kislev," or simply "The Land"—whispered to a Gospodar shaman-priestess. It promised her great power if she swore to seize a distant, frozen realm where the spirit was trapped by the Daemon Gods. The shaman, desperate to aid her people, readily agreed and was granted the power of winter in return. With the Ancient Widow's guidance, the shaman quickly mastered her new powers and used them to gather what she needed to fulfil her promise. Soon, she had bound the disparate Gospodar clans into a single people and placed herself above them as their first Khan-Queen. This done, she took her people and began her search for the Ancient Widow's land.

After generations of bloodshed on the Endless Steppe, a descendant of the Khan-Queen led the Gospodars across the Worlds Edge Mountains. There, wide-eyed, she encountered a vast snow-covered plain pulsing with icy power. She immediately collapsed to the ground and wept frozen tears, for she knew her search had finally ended. By this time, there were many women wielding the Khan-Queen's cold magic, so when the Gospodars blew their horns of war, the native Ungols, Ropsmenn, Ostermarkers, and Ostlanders had little chance against them. The Gospodars swept down from the mountains and founded a new nation in the lands of those they conquered, and their Khan-Queen, Shoika, became the first Tzarina of Kislev.

Now, many centuries later, those who practice the old, cold magics of the legendary Khan-Queens are known as ice witches, and our power has not been diminished by time."

These seem to point to the Widow being literally bound to the land of Kislev, possibly actually due to the Chaos Gods. Possibly that's how the elven leylines were rerouted to her in the first place: she could have acted as the central intelligence in the same way Caledor does for Ulthuan. It'd be interesting if we got confirmation of that.
 
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"Nooooo the Tsar totally didn't die while having sex with me."

Nobody will believe that.
The idea that he died while in the act is far more attractive for gossip and rumor spreading.
I mean
If the guy you're having sex with dies mid coitus I would have expected you to do something other than shrug and casually go to sleep next to the body

"Clearly he died in the middle of sex" isn't actually the natural assumption here
 
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I'm honestly curious what Boris is going to think of and feel about Mathilde after this. On the one hand, this was something he ordered for the good of Kislev, and she's shown herself to be reliable and a good ally in their interactions so far. On the other... she's still the woman who killed his father.
 
I'm honestly curious what Boris is going to think of and feel about Mathilde after this. On the one hand, this was something he ordered for the good of Kislev, and she's shown herself to be reliable and a good ally in their interactions so far. On the other... she's still the woman who killed his father.

Considering it was his idea, it would be kinda hypocritical having problems with her on that basis.

But for sure he will have conflicted emotions.
 
I'm honestly curious what Boris is going to think of and feel about Mathilde after this. On the one hand, this was something he ordered for the good of Kislev, and she's shown herself to be reliable and a good ally in their interactions so far. On the other... she's still the woman who killed his father.
He killed his father. He just used Mathilde to do it.

That's kinda how assassinations work
 
People are not always rational when it comes to things like who they blame for the death of a parent. Especially when it comes to how they feel about something rather than what they actually do about it. I think people talking about it being hypocrisy for him having mixed feelings about Mathilde are being pretty unreasonable...it'd be hypocrisy if he actually tried to punish her, but weird feelings of guilt and blame for both Mathilde and himself aren't hypocritical at all.
 
(on an only tangentially related note, that there's no fantasy Roman Empire in the background of the setting is extremely rare for European fantasy, and I think it's a big part of what makes Warhammer distinct)
Weren't Tilea and Estalia something vagely close to not roma at some point of their past ?,i think i remember some reference to stuff sounding a little roman from those
 
I'm happy that despite the knife ripping up his heart, he seemed to die relatively quietly? I hope it was instant and painless, and I assume it was considering the way it was portrayed.
I think mockery of death prevented any pain, as he was unconscious when it was cast on him
M / Mockery of Death: Causes someone you touch to act and appear dead for several days, or until you end it. They retain all their senses, including sight if their eyes are open, and will still need to breathe and drink.
- If the subject was asleep or unconscious when the spell is cast upon them, they will not consciously experience the time spent under Mockery of Death.
 
Logically, yes, although Mathilde did have more agency/culpability in this than most assassins would. Emotionally, however, it's a different story.
He doesn't seem the type to lay the blame on someone else like that. And he'd already resolved himself to a civil war, if need be. If anything, he'd be grateful Mathilde gave him a quiet, fairly diginified death. Hell, it probably helps Vladimir's memory in the public. He's an involuntary martyr against the Lahmians.
 
real question ,what is the statue of forensic medicine in the old world of warhammer?, I have difficulty imagining a pseudo medieval setting with necromancer problems being very comfortable with a guy who opens a body to see what is happening going inside, I seem to remember reference to this a while ago in the quest?

Because if it's seen as bad wouldn't it be a little weird if our client request an autopsy ?
 
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