He literally said he would sell them out for a spiked culvert ( Literally a small, useless made cannon (spiking a gun is hammering a spike into the fuse hole making it useless for the battle and it is quite annoying to remove.))
Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
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Mopman43
Mountain-Hermit of Nitpeak
- Location
- Vermont
I believe culverins are actually fairly large cannons.
I think 'I'd sell you out for a useless gun' was more rhetoric than intent.
Let's say it like this. If we offered him the help of the dwarfs for him selling out the elementalists then I think they would have been thrown out of the town before the ink would have been dry.
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- Hiding in the walls.
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- She/Her
The big problem that I see there is that that it would be in competition with Apparitions, since I'm pretty sure they'd also very much benefit from the Gambler. (Of course, you could make an argument that since we're dealing with Aethyric entities and our soul, we could really use the Room of Calamity being available for the binding process, but I'm pretty sure that if you suggest delaying Apparitions again until after we've finished the Orbs, there would be a riot. And likewise for suggesting we hold off on Orbs until we've done Apparitions.)
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It wasn't the result of a roll. She wants the Jades because they're a known quantity, she's had a lot of time to get used to a bunch of Wizards running around doing Wizard things.
They didn't learn Scythian from books, they learned it from people that spoke Scythian, which are all in Kislev.
No. Max was helping teach the ritual.
It took however long it took. You can get the maps and measure the distances and multiply them by the travel times chart if it's important to you. It wasn't weeks faster than Mathilde expected it to take Eike, it saved Mathilde weeks because it meant she didn't have to go out and sort out the entire trade route herself.
No.
Having a bunch of foreign books around the place would get in the way of creating their own take on humorism that they can gatekeep.
She never learned the spellbook version.
If Mathilde teaches a spell she has a Mastery for, it may or may not get passed on. I'm not going to give the option of deliberately not doing so because it would be a subvote for a chance of passing on something that would prevent a chance of getting something else that has a chance of being better, so the actual matter that would be debated would have a chance of a chance of a chance of actually happening.
The AV would either become Winds, become Earthbound Magic, or do nothing.
The Phoenixian
The Glacier Witch
- Location
- My own little world
IIRC, the Elementalists grew out of a tradition of Alchemists. (Checking, the Wiki says its founder came up with the tenets of Elementalism at around the years 1260- 1280 after befriending an alchemist Berthold Fessbinder, so I'm slightly off in that) There's a chance the Elementalists have a lot in common with the alchemical traditions that eventually gave rise to the Gold Order. Notably, the Gold Order has a lot of the Magnum Opus (via their Perfection of Gold) and chemistry stuff, but whether the Elementalists also do really depends on how related those traditions were after their founding and when any split between them might have happened. Which could be anywhere from "Over a thousand years ago" to "Not long before Teclis" given how little we know.
Wouldn't necessarily call it obvious or even likely, but it's an angle to examine things from.
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- Location
- Chicago
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- She/They
He styled on us, we styled on the college examiners- Eike is heir to a legacy here.
And yes cute.
Ms Her Own Personal Foreign Policy?
Ms The Best Kind of Good News?
Lol yes this.
My bet is that in a turn or two when they properly appreciate the scale, ambition, and momentum our library has, there's going to be more than a few factions reaching out to us. It sounds like each library answers only to itself, more or less, so there's got to be some library heads who loved seeing Nuln's noses tweaked.
They'll come to us.
Crack theory time.
Premises:
- belief over time causes things to resonate with the warp.
- four elements theory has been how most people have understood the composition world for some time.
Implies:
- there's discrete aytheric entitites that now exist for each of the four elements.
- these are not gods (gods maybe formed in the same way?) because the elements are believed to have natures, not personalities.
- they aren't winds because they don't come from the flow of aether into the world, but from belief emanating out.
Conclusion:
The elements are artificial wind equivalents, and are drawn on in a manner more like divine casting than wind casting: energy originated from the warp pulled through the soul and out, vs winds pulled into soul and sent back out.
Ericwinter
Definitely not a Skaven Infiltrator
- Location
- America
Oh the irony.
I mean, I've long since gotten over the way she first treated Mathilde, but it still makes me smile a little to see Roswita being so familiar with Wizards that she prefers then over other options.
Parabola
Divided Loyalties Librarian
- Location
- The Destination of Fate
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- She/Her
My logic is thus:
Capturing an Apparition is step 1 of the process, before actually examining the thing, considering some options for how to empower it, and then binding it to us. We can have Johann come along to capture whichever we choose, and he has been confirmed to be capable of punching them in general because of his gilding.
However, for the liminal realm, we can't take anyone along. The decision was made long ago not to involve Johann and Max in the matters of AV and Boney even said at one point that introducing them to actual experiments regarding it at this stage would require them first getting familiarized with it, so they wouldn't really help out. And when last we tried this, an evil birb popped up and scared the collective shit out of us. People were straight-up panicking. So I would rather have some backing on this one. And since we can't bring along WEB-MAT, we should bring our oldest and most annoying friend.
The Phoenixian
The Glacier Witch
- Location
- My own little world
You know, this sounds like a fun Divine research track. Assuming The Father is not Ranald's newest title but one of His eldest... (given only to those the trusted) It could be an angle to investigate the coin's fifth face.
Not only for finding how Ranald got where he is but also how one becomes a daughter of... what I guess could be called the Old Fathers?
Or, from a wider angle, look up all the Fathers among the gods and tracing how they got where they are.
Given the existence of, say, Grandfather Nurgle, (who's thing is Stagnant Decay when many of the Dawi's old keepers are implied to be the brittle and unchanging Gods of Law) it might also imply why Ranald would have first run off to Maybe-Nehekara off and later possibly deliberately reinvented himself. If Nurgle had a hold on those Old Fathers who later fell to become lesser Chaos Gods it might imply that a line from Grandfather to Father somehow played into their fall.
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It was probably this.
So question to all of you: Kislev tend to kill all their men who display aptitude for arcane magic to avoid the vague prophecy...
Is there any way the empire could swing a treaty to make Kislev give those men to the colleges of magic ?
It would augment the number of available mages for the empire.
Is there any way the empire could swing a treaty to make Kislev give those men to the colleges of magic ?
It would augment the number of available mages for the empire.
Dermonster
The Shittiest Wizard
I find it a little amusing that we've now twice gave out notices to the Jades that there's good, easy work in Stirland. First for our fief, and now sidejobs while doing rituals.
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- being near locations is my passion.
I am uncertain.
I feel it might have been a different interaction that is more explicit on Boney's end about the Eonir needing to control the enchanted building/make it themselves so they fully understand it, but I may be incorrect on that.
Most of them are already heading south (or getting send South) if it's found out iirc. It's just reaching the empire that takes time and luck.
I had also sort of thought I remembered something along those lines but didn't come up with any results for such.
That already happens, and the Ice Court has beef with the Colleges because of it.
I mean Bok exists, so I'm not sure why you're surprised?
fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
- Location
- Tempe, AZ
It is actually fair easy to find good easy work for Jade wizards when the majority of everyone are farmers. The only things getting in the way is anti magic prejudice. If it weren't for that we would never be able get any Jades to work for us because we would be constantly outbid.
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- Who knows?
There's no formal process, but its kinda a wink-wink-nudge-nudge thing where no one looks too hard if there's a lot of dudes with strong Kislev accents in the colleges.
Edit: Ah the colleges don't mind that much, the Ice Witches kinda do? We know at least they were cool with Johann who is very obviously visibly claimed by Chamon and can't really touch the Ice Magic. Or at least can't do so in a way that his Grey Magister colleague wouldn't cull him for.
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Little Orphan Eikeie
Zedman7054
Eternally 3rd
- Location
- United States
Mini-Omake
Running away and joining thecircus theatre - Grey Wizard Edition
or
Little Orphan Eikeie
The matron of the theatre looked down on the nervous thing in front of her. Wearing only a grey cloak she stared back with a wide-eyed look of terror.
"So let me get things right. You are the bastard daughter of a rich merchant's negligent son, taken in by them as their direct heir, bypassing your father in line for both the inheritance and leadership of the merchant's network. Once taken in you were tutored and held to high, nearly impossible, standards. Terrified, you ran away and were taken in by a mysterious woman who saved your life, leaving you in her debt. Now, she has sent you here to work for me to test both your dedication to her craft and drive you to grow out of your...this."
"Excuse me, but you just gestured to all of me."
"Exactly."
The girl's lips pursed but she refused to say anything more, despite her obvious displeasure.
"So...I take you won't have me?"
The matron smiled. "Oh dear little girl, I'm not just going to let you join the troupe, I think I'm looking at the star of my next play! Now, we'll have to fudge some of the names so we don't make it obvious who we're trying to offend, but that doesn't mean we can't make it blatant, now from the beginning, what was your father's name?"
Unbeknownst to both the girl and the matron as they talked, a woman in a witch hunter's hat and her shadow could only bury her head in her hands.
Running away and joining the
or
Little Orphan Eikeie
The matron of the theatre looked down on the nervous thing in front of her. Wearing only a grey cloak she stared back with a wide-eyed look of terror.
"So let me get things right. You are the bastard daughter of a rich merchant's negligent son, taken in by them as their direct heir, bypassing your father in line for both the inheritance and leadership of the merchant's network. Once taken in you were tutored and held to high, nearly impossible, standards. Terrified, you ran away and were taken in by a mysterious woman who saved your life, leaving you in her debt. Now, she has sent you here to work for me to test both your dedication to her craft and drive you to grow out of your...this."
"Excuse me, but you just gestured to all of me."
"Exactly."
The girl's lips pursed but she refused to say anything more, despite her obvious displeasure.
"So...I take you won't have me?"
The matron smiled. "Oh dear little girl, I'm not just going to let you join the troupe, I think I'm looking at the star of my next play! Now, we'll have to fudge some of the names so we don't make it obvious who we're trying to offend, but that doesn't mean we can't make it blatant, now from the beginning, what was your father's name?"
Unbeknownst to both the girl and the matron as they talked, a woman in a witch hunter's hat and her shadow could only bury her head in her hands.
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