- Location
- Aotearoa
The lack of flowing water is a shame. If we had a river, I feel the locals would appreciate the practicality and utility of the Halethian bag of stones.
Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
- Thread starter Boney
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deathofrats0808
Don’t think of it as dying; just as leaving early
- Location
- Earth
But they'd use them as slingstones, which would be problematic.
- Location
- Australia
Them raiding elsewhere is an irrelevant argument. If we kill dark elves, there'll be less dark elves to do any raiding, period. Whatever benefits the winning faction gains is outweighed by the harm to druchiikind as a whole and therefore the reduced harm they can inflict on others, to say nothing of the direct benefits to the Empire.
I'm a little confused, why's it implausible that the Asur would trade with Barak Varr when Bel-Hathor made a point of opening relations with the dwarves? Finubar's continuing Bel-Hathor's foreign policy.
Mopman43
Mountain-Hermit of Nitpeak
- Location
- Vermont
I'm pretty sure Dogs of War says that Tileans make a fair bit of money acting as middle-men for Dwarf-Ulhuan trade because the two polities generally refuse to trade with each other.
Edit: Page 73 of 5th edition Dogs of War.
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Mostly because the dwarfs still don't like the elf's. They are barely ok with the eonir and that's because they see them as rebels that split from the Asur empire.
Mopman43
Mountain-Hermit of Nitpeak
- Location
- Vermont
Being fair, the Elves also don't like the Dwarfs. It's a firmly mutual distrust.
Absolutely, but we know much more about the dwarfs, which is why I went with it. Thorek is here because he trusts us and we did him a big favor. Kragg would only go to laurelorn to make it the world's biggest charcoal produce.
Edit: and there are many more dwarfs that vaguely think like Kragg then they think like Thorek.
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And also because Thorek is so conservative that he's somehow looped back round to being a radical.
Thorek (I think) is pragmatic and a realist which has shown him that the rune guild can not survive as it is and it's hindering the karaz ankor from becoming more. So he's willing to break a lot of eggs to make this damn omelette.
Everyone knows that when their constant infighting drops their population too much, new ones just spawn in random alleys when no one is looking. It's how malekith has kept their house of cards going as long as he has.
Fortunately for us Boney is not subsidized by GW's "Grimdarkness maintenance and intensification" fund .
... Ok Thorek is pretty open minded but even he would balk at doing anything rune related together with elves or on metal that he never tested.
Having Thorek and elven smiths collaborate is a big ask.
And for what? The thing with new equipment is that it ought to bring something extra that the old equipment wouldn't. Until we get spider silk we're pretty maxed out in terms of gear.
Only the High Elves know how to forge it, though a Dwarf Runesmith would surrender his family's entire treasure hoard to learn its secret.
Ithilmar
Ithilmar (lit. 'sky-silver' in Eltharin) is a wondrous, lightweight metal found only in Vaul's Anvil, the largest volcano in Ulthuan.[1a] Forged by Elven smiths, ithilmar is priceless, and serves as an excellent alternative to steel or iron mail.[3b] In Norsca, it is also known as the...warhammerfantasy.fandom.com
Dwarves would like to know how to make Ithilmar, but honestly, they can buy scraps from the Empire themselves so I doubt it'll be as simple as just dropping a few tons in front of them.
I mean Thorek could have time to study it, same as he did for AV
It could be for Eike. Although I'm mainly interested to know if Ilthimar can be runed and what properties it could have
Mopman43
Mountain-Hermit of Nitpeak
- Location
- Vermont
As far as the quest goes, Boney has said that men can work it.
That was for something that just charges a rune. Not where you put a rune on something. Muuuuuuuuuuuch different. Charging a rune isn't changing how it's working or it's base principle.
I am not sure that is the case. Unless I misremember nothing can recharge Anvils of Doom (except a Storm of Magic) and Thorek would have never seen AV (and it isn't even a metal!).
I don't think working out the properties of a new material for runesmithing is that much harder than figuring out an use for AV.
Mopman43
Mountain-Hermit of Nitpeak
- Location
- Vermont
They recharge over time without a Storm of Magic, but we're talking one use per century.
deathofrats0808
Don’t think of it as dying; just as leaving early
- Location
- Earth
Mathilde isn't going to find a few tons and the Dwrafs can't make ithilmar. They might be able to work the existing material (although one could argue that should ruin it, as it's an alloy), but the only actual place to get more of it is to find the requisite ores in the Dragonspine Mountains in Ulthuan.
Mopman43
Mountain-Hermit of Nitpeak
- Location
- Vermont
Is it an alloy or is it spewed out directly by the volcano?
- Location
- Te Ika-a-Māui
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Yes (it's magic).