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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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LadySerpentine said:
I'm just saying, "has more sense than a children's fantasy movie" (Willow) is a high bar for him!
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In Willow, the 'kill all the babies' plan never scales beyond a specific small village where the villain knows the specific baby she's looking for is. That's terrible but not illogical. Killing all male babies in your entire civilization is several levels more unreasonable than that.
 
LadySerpentine said:
I'm honestly surprised Malekith didn't try to go for the "kill every male Druchii at birth" option. The man is not exactly known for his restraint in, uh, any other aspect of his life.
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The figure that Malekith is afraid of is specifically some form of magic-user.

The full Prophecy of Demise (or, well, the only part we actually know)

"And lo, he shall rule with a dark hand and his shadow shall touch upon every land. Steel will be his skin and fire will be his blood, in hatred will he conquer all before him. No blade forged of Man, Dwarf or Elf shall endure him fear. Though will it come to pass that the firstborn son of noble blood shall rise to power. The child will be learned in the darkest arts and he will raise an army of terrible beasts. Thus will the Dark King fall, slain by neither blade nor arrow but by a sorcerous power of darkest magic and so shall his body be consumed in the flames and for all eternity burn."
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Mopman43 said:
The figure that Malekith is afraid of is specifically some form of magic-user.

The full Prophecy of Demise (or, well, the only part we actually know)
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*looks at Belegar, A Firstborn son of Noble Blood*
*considers that the Dawi have many arts that are practiced in pitch black where the sun has never shined, nor ever shall*
*Looks at The We, an army of terrible beasts*
*Looks at the Eye of Gazul as a sorcerous power of literal, rather than metaphorical, Dark Magic from both the human sense of weaponized shadow, and the ties to the Dwarven Underdark sense, which notably sets souls on fire*
 
Mopman43 said:
The figure that Malekith is afraid of is specifically some form of magic-user.

The full Prophecy of Demise (or, well, the only part we actually know)
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According to what I can find, the End Times didn't even fulfill or subvert that prophecy. He died to a combo of falling rocks+being consumed by a warp gate. Probably because they didn't want him to die, they just wanted to teleport him to a new setting.
 
Nerdasaurus Rex said:
I've commented before that if Mandred ever learns to summon Apparitions, he'll sort of fit the prophecy.

But yeah, it's probably Nagash.
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All we need is a first-born son that "is learned in the darkest arts" and raises "an army of beasts".

It's not the most exclusive list in the world.

Zhao Ming might qualify, what with his preferred magic being illegal for humans in Cathay and with an army of Ogres at his back.
 
There is absolutely no proof that the prophecy is even referring to Malekith, he just thinks it does because he thinks the world revolves around him.
 
Mopman43 said:
All we need is a first-born son that "is learned in the darkest arts" and raises "an army of beasts".

It's not the most exclusive list in the world.

Zhao Ming might qualify, what with his preferred magic being illegal for humans in Cathay and with an army of Ogres at his back.
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He is likely not the first born son. While we don't have an exact family tree, it is quite likely that Yuan Bo, Lord of the Central Provinces, is older. They could subvert expectations by making Yuan Bo younger, but basic instincts tell me they're playing into family dynamic tropes, which typically involve an aloof older sister, a rebellious younger brother, and a resposible yet often ignored middle brother.
 
Codex said:
He is likely not the first born son. While we don't have an exact family tree, it is quite likely that Yuan Bo, Lord of the Central Provinces, is older. They could subvert expectations by making Yuan Bo younger, but basic instincts tell me they're playing into family dynamic tropes, which typically involve an aloof older sister, a rebellious younger brother, and a resposible yet often ignored middle brother.
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You're not wrong.

Ergo, the figure of prophecy is Yuan Bo, with his darkest magic of bureaucracy!
 
Mopman43 said:
All we need is a first-born son that "is learned in the darkest arts" and raises "an army of beasts".

It's not the most exclusive list in the world.

Zhao Ming might qualify, what with his preferred magic being illegal for humans in Cathay and with an army of Ogres at his back.
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Yeah, to further add to the point, this is definitely the kind of prophecy where there are numerous interpretations. Personally, I'm of the belief that If an interpretation seems valid, it probably is valid. (Who says you can't fulfill a prophecy multiple times?)

Especially because, it also feels like this is also the sort that also gets followed through via a subversion of its precise words as often as played straight.

Darth Crater said:
Nagash does not, in fact, fear any "blade forged of Man, Dwarf, or Elf."

Just don't ask him about hammers.
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... Honestly, it would be funny if the real Dark King (or one of them) died thousands of years ago.

*Looks at the Dawi again.*
*Looks this time at King Ironbeard allegiance with Sigmar, and how mankind might have been viewed back then*
*considers Runelore, as a product of the Glittering Realm, as a candidate for the Darkest Magic*
*Looks at a certain ancient king's fight with a certain undead sorcerer*
 
Kiselv also has a prophecy that a male magic user will do dark fucky things with magic. And so might Bretonnia. I choose to believe all of these are about the same guy, who therefore must be a half-Bretonnian, half-Kislevite nobel born elf.
 
BurnNote said:
The really important spellcaster are called prophetess. Based on the magic smuggness principle, there is definitely a prophecy involved, if only retroactively.
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They pick up Azyr when they become Prophetesses, I'm sure there's a great many prophecies involved.

BurnNote said:
And he's Morathi's first born, I believe.
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Depends on if Morathi 'is of noble blood'.

BurnNote said:
With Eltharin being what it is, I doubt it's so straightforward. Maybe it's actually supposed to mean "last" (Eltharin has a thing for words meaning both a thing and it's antonym) or it's "most prominent".
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Eh, I find that a bit dull. If only because the prophecy we have is written in English, not Eltharin, and there's already so much wiggle room in it.
 
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