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Only thing Games Workshop is interested about fan works is stopping them so please don't do anything like that. Infact What if Emperor Had Text to Speech Device which was similiarly popular died that way.
GW have a stick up their ass, but that is a twisting of the facts. Alfabusa said that he stopped working on it because of the policies, rather than GW shutting them down. He decided to move on to his own projects.
 
Infact "What if Emperor Had Text to Speech Device" over on youtube which was similiarly popular died that way. Now since this is nonprofit it might not share same fate but why tempt Murphy.
GW have a stick up their ass, but that is a twisting of the facts. Alfabusa said that he stopped working on it because of the policies, rather than GW shutting them down. He decided to move on to his own projects.
It was the Astartes fan animation project that was shut down by GW by giving the creator a choice to either come work for their animation team or they copyright strike the entire thing.
 
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[-] Create Orbs of Sorcery solo (requires one of each Power Stone) (insufficient CF)
Mathilde will have full control over what happens with the resultant Orbs, including the option of presenting the full collection as a shockingly impressive fait accompli. Any Power Stones Mathilde does not have will be acquired for 5 CF each.
So just to keep track, we have an Ulgu power stone already, and need 35 CF to purchase the rest to do the Morbs. Since we're at 33/35 CF, we can be fairly certain that we'll have enough to do this action next turn, barring a total flub on our next paper.
 
So just to keep track, we have an Ulgu power stone already, and need 35 CF to purchase the rest to do the Morbs. Since we're at 33/35 CF, we can be fairly certain that we'll have enough to do this action next turn, barring a total flub on our next paper.
We also spend 1 CF/turn on the EIC-spy guy. But 3 shouldn't be hard to earn.
 
tilts head in confusion

What sort of benefits are you imagining for this quest/Boney/the playerbsase from such a thing?
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Anyway, to those that are feeling the EIC charcoal more than the EIC Nordland networking option this turn, it is a case of 'Charcoal option is better this turn because stronger trade links' or is more 'EIC Nordland expansion is not a fantastic idea in its own right'?

'cuz while I think creating of trade links is best done asap, I admit I would really like an EIC presence in Nordland.

The EIC charcoal option can also involve establishing an EIC presence in Nordland, Boney said there will be a vote.

Taking the action now would involve Mathilde figuring out a way to make it happen and probably a vote on which method she ends up choosing. If the trade is set up now and the Schadensumpf route is built later, then the trade would switch to that route (if it's a superior route) without Mathilde needing to take the action all over again.
 
Anyway, to those that are feeling the EIC charcoal more than the EIC Nordland networking option this turn, it is a case of 'Charcoal option is better this turn because stronger trade links' or is more 'EIC Nordland expansion is not a fantastic idea in its own right'?
Charcoal trade is good and Nordland expansion is a bad idea. To be more precise, it's not that Nordland expansion is bad, it's that Nordland expansion isn't happening.

The EIC is an intelligence network based on a trade network. When we wanted to snop on Alric the EIC was able to infiltrate the administartion of Talabheim because the EIC already had a moderate presence Talabecland due to being involved in interstate trade in Talabecland. We can ask the EIC to try and infiltrate areas where it has no presence, as we did when we asked the EIC to look into the weirdness in the Gryphon's Wood, but this amounted to sending the Hochlander to do some spying on his own and was pretty much worthless.

The EIC has no presence in Nordland. There are no obvious ways to create any presence in Nordland. If you do want to try and create some presence in Nordland charcoal is the only trade possibility that stands some chance of doing so, because I'm pretty sure Nordland has no ores to sell to the Eonir, but I highly doubt that's going to work. Nordland isn't going to want to trade with the Eonir, and they're probably not going to take Mathilde's trade company establish a foothold in Nordland anyway because of the current political situation - I would bet that Nordland considers everyone involved in the Waystone project to be on the Eonir's side of the conflict, and that probably goes double for the head of the project.
 
'cuz while I think creating of trade links is best done asap, I admit I would really like an EIC presence in Nordland.
I have a feeling that trade links themselves might be important in keeping Middineland invested in the Eonir alliance. After all at the moment the allience relies on Ar-Ulric which Nordland is attacking the legilimency of it. With trade links burghers and nobles alike will be earning money from both the trade and the tolls and that might lead to a groundswell support if Elector Count wants to back the alliance.

GW have a stick up their ass, but that is a twisting of the facts. Alfabusa said that he stopped working on it because of the policies, rather than GW shutting them down.
GW has a zero tolarance policy towards fan animations. Which means while they might not have gone after them yet but it was probably a matter of time considering trends and said policy. But result is same GW wanted fanworks to stop and it stopped dead though the youtube. I don't want to find out if they are going extend the policy to fanfiction because this story is actually perfect example to be made for such policy (being the fanfic with biggest following I know of), if they want to do that.
 
Gentlemen, I want to ask a couple questions:

First, is ot valid to start deploying tributaries in Laurelorn to begin with? We already talked about how the Dreaming Wood tributary makes the Eonir and the Colleges cooperate. This would be a political play to get them to open more.

Second, have we ever talked about using We silk for the Leyline conduit? I mean, we have ready access to the product and it would make it way more difficult to disrupt than normal rope, being as resistant as it is.
 
Second, have we ever talked about using We silk for the Leyline conduit? I mean, we have ready access to the product and it would make it way more difficult to disrupt than normal rope, being as resistant as it is.
Bit of a give-and-take there, less likely to be disrupted by Goblins, more likely to be disrupted by humans.
 
Second, have we ever talked about using We silk for the Leyline conduit? I mean, we have ready access to the product and it would make it way more difficult to disrupt than normal rope, being as resistant as it is.
That would be like replacing copper wires with gold wires. Nothing is going to stop determination of human peasants to fuck the shit up for their benefit, not even silk is that only somewhat more resistant to cutting. Not even Gomril is that resistant I think.

I mean if you were to find something that can never be cut you will start to see them being sold on the markets in a couple days with stones parts attached to each end because stone is not as resistant lol.
 
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That would be like replacing copper wires with gold wires. Nothing is going to stop determination of human peasants to fuck the shit up for their benefit, not even silk is that only somewhat more resistant to cutting. Not even Gomril is that resistant I think.

I mean if you were to find something that can never be cut you will start to see them being sold on the markets in a couple days with stones parts attached to each end because stone is not as resistant lol.

It would still require less maitenance than random rope though?

I was thinking about the sticky variety of silk on the exterior too, so that it gets a fuckton of dirt and trash attached to it, making it not only camouflaged, but less desirable to messssed with too.
 
Rule 1 of fanfiction: do not draw attention.

Thing is because of fucked up copyright laws, even if company was ok with fanfiction and other fanworks, they may end up legally compelled to shut things down.
But as long as nobody draws attention to things, everyone can pretend nobody has noticed anything and everyhing is fine.
 
[] Plan Codifying and Swords
-[] Overwork: Yes
-[] COIN: The Gambler
-[] Attempt to codify Rite of Way so that others can learn it. (The Gambler)
-[] Branulhune's ability to disappear and reappear at a thought allows entirely new forms of combat. Continue to work on them. (Hand-switching)
-[] Branulhune's ability to disappear and reappear at a thought allows entirely new forms of combat. Continue to work on them. (Double-tap)
-[] Waystone: Capstone (Hatalath, Thorek, Elrisse, Egrimm, Max, Johann)
-[] Waystone: Leyline Prototype (River) (Sarvoi, Cadaeth, Baba Niedzwenka, Tochter, Aksel, Zlata)
-[] Tributary: Water Spirit (Stirland) (Baba Niedzwenka, Max)
-[] KAU: Seek an exchange arrangement with another Library or a Karak's archives to be able to make copies of their corpus (Nuln; any library that doesn't run fast enough when Mathilde rolls into town; use KaK Metalsmithing Guild Boon)
-[] EIC: Attempt to establish a trade route with the Eonir (charcoal)
-[] SERENITY: The Black Orc Warboss' worship of Only Gork, and what you saw of the Rogue Idol ritual (FADED)
-[] Eike Actions: Branulhune training
-[] Eike Study: Study Petty spells, continue learning about Old World Economics with Wilhelmina
I'd vote for this. Mathymancer gave some good feedback for tweaking the Waystone actions; personally, rather than divide Eike Study between two things (giving her less time on each), I'd put her on just Petty Spells and add the EIC action to the Eike Actions. Maybe also bring her to the Tributary: Water Spirit (Stirland) action? She won't be able to contribute at that one, but it would give her a chance to see magic being put to use to benefit the people of her home in a long-lasting way, which is important for her moral development (one of the most important parts of Grey Wizarding).
[ ] Plan Lore and Metal, Keeping Busy Edition
-[ ] Waystone: Mapping (Tilea, Estalia) (Johann)
-[ ] MAX: Study an artefact (Lustrian Rubbings)
-[ ] EGRIMM: Attempt a Windherder enchantment with Egrimm: Cloak of Flashy Escapes (Shadowcloak + Dazzling Brightness)
-[ ] Waystone: Capstone (Max, Johann, Egrimm, Elrisse, Thorek, Hatalath, Sarvoi)
-[ ] Tributary: Water Spirit (Stirland) (Niedzwenka, Zlata, Max, Cadaeth, Tochter)
-[ ] Attempt to codify Rite of Way so that others can learn it.
--[ ] The Gambler
-[ ] Branulhune's ability to disappear and reappear at a thought allows entirely new forms of combat. Continue to work on them.
-[ ] EIC: Attempt to establish a trade route with the Eonir (charcoal)
-[ ] KAU: Seek an exchange arrangement with another Library or a Karak's archives to be able to make copies of their corpus (as many Nuln libraries as we can get in exchange for using the KaK metalsmithing guild boon to help rebuild Nuln's foundaries)
-[ ]SERENITY: The Black Orc Warboss' worship of Only Gork, and what you saw of the Rogue Idol ritual
-[ ] Eike Actions: Lustrian Rubbings study, Windherding enchantment, Branulhune training, EIC action
-[ ] Eike Study: Petty Magics
-[ ] Contains Overwork
This is my favorite I've seen so far. The one thing I might do differently is to swap the Egrimm action to writing the Windfall paper. My reasons are threefold:
  • We've just been reminded of his resentments and insecurities, and our role in damping them. "Hey, I want to make sure you're included on the work you led rather than me taking the credit" is a thing Mathilde could do, and the conversation where she explains she was waiting for him to write it on his own would be fun to watch.
  • Bringing Eike along for that work would be good for her magical study, since she also has an unusual form of Windsight, and bringing our Apprentice helps send the "I am not Alric" message to Egrimm.
  • There's a possibility that we roll low on writing the Only Gork paper and won't be able to leave out the bits we want to leave out (citation), and then we will probably vote to keep it secret rather than bringing Ranald's involvement to light. If so, then we won't get CF from the Serenity action this turn, and so having a backup source will be nice.
But it wouldn't stop me from voting for the plan as written if you kept it like that.
So just to keep track, we have an Ulgu power stone already, and need 35 CF to purchase the rest to do the Morbs. Since we're at 33/35 CF, we can be fairly certain that we'll have enough to do this action next turn, barring a total flub on our next paper.
Boney has said that Mathilde would, in an ideal world, want to do the Orbs of Sorcery creation in the Room of Calamity, which is out of commission for a year. Since we'd really, really, really prefer that nothing go wrong when making eight objects of incredible magical power, I think we should wait for the ideal here rather than do it under less-safe conditions.
 
but that is a twisting of the facts
I mean... yes, but you run the other gamut. When the changes happened, Alfabrussa stopped because while any lawsuit leveled against him could probably be won, most people can´t afford to push theit luck anyway because they don´t have the funds and don´t wanna stress themselves out running a multi year lawsuit against a big corporation that can take the loss unlike a private citizen.

So yeah, GW did not shut down Alfabrussa directly, but i am pretty sure that the changes in their policies intimidated him into quitting anyway.

Like, if a gang starts shaking down the neighbourhood shops if they don´t pay them money, does you shutting the store down and moving town not constitute being forced to quit by the mob?

Anyway, so yeah. Lets not draw their attention to stuff we like.

I feel like asking GW to look at the quest would be a fast way to get copyright allegations, the quest getting deleted to avoid legal disputes and then shoddy knockoffs of characters in the quest popping up.

Literally the best possible scenario of this is that they try to browbeat Boney into writing for them and then shut it all behind paywall, like the other beloved Warhammer fanworks, thought DL is really... quite far away from being Astartes, lets be honest.
 
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Problem with that is that Boris isn't Tsar yet.

He probably doesn't control the purse strings.


I'm pretty sure Boney has previously said outright that Shadow Warriors aren't assassins, and the High Elves don't have assassins.

Alith Anar could probably assassinate someone, but the Phoenix King doesn't exactly have him on speed dial.

Also, Shadow Warriors are very, very bad at not being obvious that they killed somebody.
Maybe they don't have dedicated Orders of assassins like the Druchii or Skavens, but they certainly have at least some people who can kill someone well-protected. It beggars belief that a superpower spanning an entire continent and having access to more powerful and more widespread magic than any human nation can't muster anything to discreetly kill high-value targets. Especially when they have been locked in an eternal war with a peer power with no notion of fair play.

Mostly I was imagining GW saying: we'll give Boney x% of royalties on an Amazon or otherwise publishing of this quest.

I was thinking it would be cool if it improved Boney's financial situation, and maybe maybe could free up more brainspace to write updates?
You have way too much faith in humanity…
 
Asur politics are rarely decided by assassinations, but it happens sometimes. And many real-life historical polities practiced political assassinations without a dedicated order of ninja.

The Asur also have to deal with foreign enemies leading armies, so they very probably have people very good at sneaking and murdering. I bet there's plenty of elves with the same skillset as Mathilde, especially among the Nagarythian. Those guys don't care about honor, I'm pretty sure they have dedicated assassins to kill Druchii commanders protected by magic.

Now I don't think the Asurs would try to kill us, but they certainly would be able to make a good try.
Aur politics are almost never even affected by violence or sabotage. Given that the Ausr are a highly martial culture, with the nobles in particular all being trained warriors with small private armies, I'd argue that assassination is a step beyond either of those.

As Mopman has also said, I'm pretty sure Boney has said the Asur have no assassins. Damned if I can find the quote though.

I doubt they have assassins trained the way Mathilde is. Like, genuinely, Mathilde is trained to infiltrate somewhere and kill someone without anyone being aware. I suspect the closest even the Nagarythians get is using small bands of warriors to launch hit and run attacks that ideally kill the enemy leader if possible. I doubt it's a huge priority for them though, because Druchii don't fall apart of their leaders are killed.

They probably could just hire an assassin out of Tilea or wherever, they definitely have the cash, but frankly, I don't think that the High Elves are going to generally resort to assassination, because they're not really used to having to.
 
You have way too much faith in humanity…
Don´t confuse Corporate with Humanity. But yeah, GW is an IP bully, their attention anywhere is bad for everyone. The only reason its not the most hated company in the fantasy fandoms right now is because Wizards of the Coast decided they did not like being the second worst in the industry and really wanted that hat.
 
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This is my favorite I've seen so far. The one thing I might do differently is to swap the Egrimm action to writing the Windfall paper. My reasons are threefold:
  • We've just been reminded of his resentments and insecurities, and our role in damping them. "Hey, I want to make sure you're included on the work you led rather than me taking the credit" is a thing Mathilde could do, and the conversation where she explains she was waiting for him to write it on his own would be fun to watch.
  • Bringing Eike along for that work would be good for her magical study, since she also has an unusual form of Windsight, and bringing our Apprentice helps send the "I am not Alric" message to Egrimm.
  • There's a possibility that we roll low on writing the Only Gork paper and won't be able to leave out the bits we want to leave out (citation), and then we will probably vote to keep it secret rather than bringing Ranald's involvement to light. If so, then we won't get CF from the Serenity action this turn, and so having a backup source will be nice.
But it wouldn't stop me from voting for the plan as written if you kept it like that.
Regarding your third point, I'm aware of the problem with the Only Gork paper but the Windherding is a backup CF source - assuming that we don't completely fuck up the enchantment again, we can and probably will give it to the Colleges for some CF. And if we roll poorly on the paper and the Windherding there's still the codifying of RoW, which should give us a decent chunck of CF - the MAP gave quite a few favours IIRC. If we roll poorly on the Codifying and the paper and the Windherding then I would say that a lack of CF is the least of our problems and we should probably do a Pilgrimage of Fingers or something because Ranald is clearly mad at us for some reason.

I don't disagree with your first point - though I think involving Egrimm in groundbreaking research is also pretty good for his ego - and I completely agree with your second point and I've actually made it myself before. I'll be completely honest, I'm not that into Windherding myself, but there's clearly demand for it so let's just do it already (and this time with decent rolls, hopefully). If you want to write a Windfall paper variant that's fine by me, it'll have my approval vote.
 
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I'd prefer to put Egrimm on the windfall paper over experimenting with him on Windherding enchanting.
I like Windherding, and am 100% in favour of trying again, in the general sense, but I would like to do the windfall papers more.
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Mathilde. Well, me, speaking as Mathilde: '[Number of] years Egrimm. Years. I had been excited to see what knowledge my colleague was going to create and share with the colleges, but that had long since decayed into an borderline ambivalent curiosity.'
 
If we are going to do spying with the EIC I support targeting the 'cult of ulric' rather than 'nordland'. We won't be able to reach the center of the potential schism, but we can see if the establishment in middenheim wants to escalate, and if any parts of the cult in the mid and south empire wants to join with nordland's.
 
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