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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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Just as a general reminder, because I know we're used to be relatively wealthy-

Boney said:
Personal Wealth: 493 Stirland gold crowns.
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We really don't have much money to spare at this point. For bodyguards, or really even for books (heresy, I know).

Considering the expenses that the Waystone project has had previously, I'd prefer to keep what we have left in pocket for a rainy day expense.

(I know that in the absolute sense 493 crowns is quite a lot, but Mathilde tends to deal with rather large expenses so for her it isn't.)
 
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Boney said:
the other is a heavily militarized bulwark against greenskins and gribblies
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hey everyone I found a great use for an AP because we have so many of those to spare

[ ] Spend time assisting or ingratiating yourself with someone else: deliver lectures on Waaagh and Peace to the mages of the Ward of Storm
[ ] Spend time assisting or ingratiating yourself with someone else: go to the Ward of Storm and search for a Waaagh to Waaghbane on. Diplomacy!
 
GrimTheMad said:
Just as a general reminder, because I know we're used to be relatively wealthy-



We really don't have much money to spare at this point. For bodyguards, or really even for books (heresy, I know).

Considering the expenses that the Waystone project has had previously, I'd prefer to keep what we have left in pocket for a rainy day expense.

(I know that in the absolute sense 493 crowns is quite a lot, but Mathilde tends to deal with rather large expenses so for her it isn't.)
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that is sadly a good point.

whenever we need to make a surprise buy/payment/investment, its always in the thousands of gold coins.

kind of need to build up to there again if we don't want to have to get into debt when the next impulse buy happens.
 
what was the rule for WP members being in actions? was it 2 turns in for every one turn not used?
Is there anybody in the coming turn that we have to worry about with that when making a plan?
 
Boney said:
It's possible, but between Shadowsteed, teleportation, and various flavours of sneakiness, most situations where bodyguards would be useful would be ones where they wouldn't be able to come along.
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There has been multiple times where she couldn't act as a assassin with the largest dagger in the world. Most of her traveling is done by Gyrocopter as well.
 
lancelot said:
There has been multiple times where she couldn't act as a assassin with the largest dagger in the world. Most of her traveling is done by Gyrocopter as well.
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I don't think it's a good use of my time and effort to create and maintain six to twelve additional characters when I find it very difficult to imagine Mathilde in a situation that bodyguards could have followed her into, where Branulhune or Shadowsteed or teleporting or invisibility or any of the rest of her bag of tricks can't get her out, but a handful of bodyguards can.
 
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Nerdasaurus Rex said:
There's an argument to be made (usually by Slaaneshi cultists) that Slaanesh is the most powerful chaos god, because as the God of Desire, They rule the other three gods—after all, what is Khorne but the desire for bloodshed and violence, what is Nugle but the desire for stasis and comfort, what is Tzeentch but the desire for change and self-improvement?

All are subservient to the Lord of Desire, the Prince of Perfection, the Master of Excess, for what are those things, but pure emotion in it's rawest form, run rampant and unrestrained? To be a disciple of Chaos, to liberate yourself from everything except your own needs and impulses, is to be a disciple of Slaanesh. Drugs and sex and physical sensations are but mere gateways to the freedom self-indulgence brings.
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Preach my fellow Slaaneshi! Praise his/her glory! Let the winds in, it is a good pain!
 
1700 and some pages in I gave up reading the entire thread. You guys talk a lot. I am once again sad we didn't decide to go mad with power and develop Umbramancy. Alkharad would have been fun to work with.
 
Thought: people have made good points about letting Mathilde's bankroll build up again. However, our library has fucking nothing about the Druuchi, whom we know are politically relevant, and I don't like that at all.

What do people think about out of pocketing Imperial Extensive? That's only 100gc, half our income, so we still net positive. It gives us the narrative bonus of knowing what the Imperial common scholarly knowledge of the Druuchi is. And when we Backfill Social Science in the future, we've got an incomplete topic that may get filled out with rarer books.

I know it sounds weird to both SV and Mathilde, but there are settings other than "zero" and "100%".

EDIT: Possibly Bretonnian Extensive would be more mechanically strong. Do we get Bretonnian books from Backfill, or just Imperial/Dwarf? I'm about to be busy and can't check.
 
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picklepikkl said:
Thought: people have made good points about letting Mathilde's bankroll build up again. However, our library has fucking nothing about the Druuchi, whom we know are politically relevant, and I don't like that at all.

What do people think about out of pocketing Imperial Extensive? That's only 100gc, half our income, so we still net positive. It gives us the narrative bonus of knowing what the Imperial common scholarly knowledge of the Druuchi is. And when we Backfill Social Science in the future, we've got an incomplete topic that may get filled out with rarer books.

I know it sounds weird to both SV and Mathilde, but there are settings other than "zero" and "100%".
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I think we should buy it in full, it's not like we use that money for anything else. Information that keeps us from making large and costly mistakes is more valuable than gold that just lies there.
 
picklepikkl said:
Thought: people have made good points about letting Mathilde's bankroll build up again. However, our library has fucking nothing about the Druuchi, whom we know are politically relevant, and I don't like that at all.

What do people think about out of pocketing Imperial Extensive? That's only 100gc, half our income, so we still net positive. It gives us the narrative bonus of knowing what the Imperial common knowledge of the Druuchi are. And when we Backfill Social Science in the future, we've got an incomplete topic that may get filled out.
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I would vote for Druuchi bööks.
There was mention a few posts above about how Mathilde's larger expenditures are... well... large.
At 493 crowns, I think that anything that comes up as a surprise 'buy now' item is probably going to cost enough that we'd have to run to Belegar to beg for a loan regardless of whether we buy these books or not.
Money is for using on useful things, and I think Druuchi books are very useful right about now.

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Cards on table, I'm more than a bit wined right now, so I ain't gonna look into the specifics, but if some beautifully-souled nerd were to make a list laying out the options in terms of 'Druuchi book bonus per cost,' I'd be mighty grateful.

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there are settings other than "zero" and "100%".
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It is irresponsible to spread such misinformation.
I legitimately thought better of you pickle.
 
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BeepSmile said:
I would vote for Druuchi bööks.
There was mention a few posts aove about how Mathilde's larger expenditures are... well... large.
At 493 crowns, I think that anything that comes up as a surprise 'buy now' item is probably going to cost enough that we'd have to run to Belegar to beg for a loan regardless of weather we buy these books or not.
Money is for using on useful thins, and I think Druuchi books are very useful right about now.

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Cards on table, I'm more than a bit wined right now, so I ain't gonna look into the specifics, but if some beautifully-souled nerd were to make a list of laying out the options in terms of 'Druuchi book bonus per cost,' I'd be mighty grateful.
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It's 50 gold per +1 up to a maximum of +5 for 250 gold since we only get access to Imperial books.

Actually... speaking of that @Boney do the Eonir have any Druchi books? Sorry if this has been asked before but it's been a while and I do not think any of the search terms for that are unique enough to do a search in the thread unfortunately.
 
BeepSmile said:
Cards on table, I'm more than a bit wined right now, so I ain't gonna look into the specifics, but if some beautifully-souled nerd were to make a list of laying out the options in terms of 'Druuchi book bonus per cost,' I'd be mighty grateful.
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We can get a total of 7 BOÖK on Druchii, 5 Imperial and 2 Bretonnian. Each BOÖK costs 50 gold.

+2 Bretonnian, which pickel suggested above, will cost us 100 gold.
The full +7 will cost us 350 gold

Mathilde's income from the EIC was 200 gold per turn, but this turn we did the spice trade so it might increase somewhat (though probably not by a lot)

Bretonnia actually has to deal with Druchii semi-regularly (they have a long coast) so although their +2 is smaller than the Empire's +5 it might have some narrative qualities (such as giving Mathilde stories about all the times the Druchii killed and enslaved innocent Bretonnians peasants, which she'll hopefully keep in mind next time she gets to speak to the Druchii)

It is possible that at some future turn - perhaps even next turn - we'll take the back-fill library option on Social Science. This might get us Druchii books, but it can't be directed. Back-fill is more likely to get us books on topics we already have some books on, so buying less than the full +7 but more than 0 will make it more likely we get Druchii books from back-fill.
 
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[ ] [LIBRARY] Barak Varr booksellers
[ ] Metallurgy
[ ] Druchi
[ ] one other book

Free

if Druchi is an important buy, we can just get it for free.

we don't actually need to pay for it, we just have to wait for something else for another turn.

we don't need it to be max, people are just getting stuck on it being maxed.
 
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[ ] [LIBRARY] Barak Varr booksellers
-[ ] Metallurgy
-[ ] Druchi
-[ ] Manners and Etiquette

What do people think of this?

yes, its not going to max Druchi to +7, but +5 is not a lot worse. (Im aware that because I said that the roll will fail by 2.)

Metallurgy for the waystone.

and M&E for a much-needed Dip bonus, at least when we are on the initiative.
 
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