- Location
- being near locations is my passion.
Sometimes I feel bad for Boney who has to make the outcome of these 'who is behind [event]' dice rolls coherently work as part of the story.
Sometimes I feel bad for Boney who has to make the outcome of these 'who is behind [event]' dice rolls coherently work as part of the story.
A rune on a bedframe to induce more restful sleep? Well, better rest makes people more productive. A rune on an oven to more finely control the heat? Better cooked food could boost morale... A... beard braider? I dunno.I'm kinda struggling to figure out a rune that i can't, somehow, be turned into military purposes.
I mean, sure, but I'm not thinking with CF efficiency in mind, since the Orbflex will need to be delayed anyway - I'm thinking of how it's more efficient to use Barak Varr to get topics that we know have +5 on both Dwarf and Imperial sources, and then use Backfill on Social Sciences, because it might fill out topics that don't have +5 in them without 'losing' any budget, on top of partially-filled topics like Ulthuan and the like.
While we're at it, I'm also inclined to pick up Imperial Druchii out-of-pocket, since Dwarves have basically nothing on them.
I'm kinda struggling to figure out a rune that i can't, somehow, be turned into military purposes.
Restfull sleep seems like awesome to have on campaigns, rested troops are effective troops.A rune on a bedframe to induce more restful sleep? Well, better rest makes people more productive. A rune on an oven to more finely control the heat? Better cooked food could boost morale... A... beard braider? I dunno.
While the thread is somewhat on the topic of Athel Loren, I have no idea if any books on the oak of ages even *exist*, given the wood elves don't seem super interested in printing books, but it would be fascinating to see what connection the worldroots have to leylines, if any. It could be the tree itself is acting as a massive waystone and that's why it's so magical. Of course, we have fuck all chance of successfully getting a chance to study it.
See above.
- Something that changes taste or smell, sure they could be used in assassination but dwarfs would not think about it
- Complex adaptations of light runes that do artistic things say in time with music
- Dreamless sleep runes, sure they might help against magical attack in your dreams, but a dwarf is not going to use that on you
I guess it has to do with whitch capstones we are looking at. The ones made by dwarfs or the ones made by elves.No, we can buy them out of pocket. We've done so in the past, even, check the purchase round for T37. What that represents in the fiction of the setting is hiring members of the city's bored underemployed populace to scribe for us, rather than buying from merchants, but we can do it.
I agree that it's a good use if we need the Eonir perspective on something urgently, but I haven't seen any arguments for what specific topics of theirs are more pressing than a +10 to Metallurgy for the Capstone research.
But when we're doing Waystone-related research, we can use the Library of Mournings all we like. We have access to all those Eonir books. That was one of the selling points of Laurelorn.I guess it has to do with whitch capstones we are looking at. The ones made by dwarfs or the ones made by elves.
In The elf case the bonus from the elf one might be smaller, but is more relevant.
Could even argue that with a dwarf runesmith and max on the team but no elven smith in The team, the elven perspective in book form will add more than books on human and dwarf metallurgy.
Because we will have too experts to just ask.
To summarize this whole line of discussion, it sounds like the Library of Mournings gives us the full Eonir book bonus (whether in the form of a +5 or just pure narrative consequences) when we or our crew are looking up information directly germane to the Waystone Project, and that can potentially include restricted topics like "hardcore magical theory", but if we want that tasty mechanical/narrative combo for personal projects or interests, we need to shell out during the purchase round and won't be able to get that for many topics with potential military value (or that are just juicy secrets they keep locked down). Have I understood correctly?
So for Waystone-related research, we don't need to spend our Library slots on Eonir books. We can just access as we need it. Buying Eonir Metallurgy books would br useful to KAU, but not to the Waystone Project. Imperial and Dwarf books are another story.Yes. If Mathilde wants to check a specific thing she'll go to whatever library she needs to like she did with Kalita, but if she wants the bonus then she needs to be able to monopolize the books in question without having to fight off other patrons or withstand glowers from librarians, which means either her own books or working on a project that the authority in charge of the library considers very important.
Well, IIRC the Asrai have books on the Old Ones (which they perhaps inherited from the Asur), so I guess it's fair to assume they do have libraries in there somewhere. Though good luck getting any of those books right now.While the thread is somewhat on the topic of Athel Loren, I have no idea if any books on the oak of ages even *exist*, given the wood elves don't seem super interested in printing books, but it would be fascinating to see what connection the worldroots have to leylines, if any. It could be the tree itself is acting as a massive waystone and that's why it's so magical. Of course, we have fuck all chance of successfully getting a chance to study it.
A rune that constantly generates a particular perfume scent. It doesn't clear the air, doesn't remove other smells, just produces that one scent at a constant level.I'm kinda struggling to figure out a rune that i can't, somehow, turn into military purposes.
I'm inordinately pleased that Vlag is economically benefitting from the sudden trade agreements with the Eonir. If the people who have been under siege for generations, those who have every reason to mistrust strangers, trade with the Elgi? Then who are the rest of the Karaz Ankor to shy away from such?
Bill Bryson begs to differ.I do not think history is a valid category. One would have to specify the history of what.
On the one hand I doubt the Dwarfs will ever sell guns to Elves. In large part because they need all the guns they can make for their own use.I'm thinking along the lines that even the time where Elves will be interested in Human guns will be limited. And limited only insofar as the Dwarves themselves are reluctant to sell to Elves. There might be profits to be made for the Empire, but those will be short term profits, in the large scheme of things.
Think it's the Eonir that said they have those books.Well, IIRC the Asrai have books on the Old Ones (which they perhaps inherited from the Asur), so I guess it's fair to assume they do have libraries in there somewhere. Though good luck getting any of those books right now.
My definition if "military purpose" is "useful for the military functioning and missions".A rune that constantly generates a particular perfume scent. It doesn't clear the air, doesn't remove other smells, just produces that one scent at a constant level.
A rune that enhances the lustre of whatever stones are placed in the socket of the jewelry the rune is worked into.
A rune that temporarily alters the coloration of small sections of skin on contact.
A rune that maintains a given temperature for a small pool of water, but that only works if the rune is socketed into a structure rather than being readily movable.
If your definition of "military purposes" extends to cosmetics and emplaced creature comforts then your definition of "military purposes" is "anything to do with existing", so of course you can't imagine something that doesn't include it.
Something I just realized while rereading - Mathilde and Thorek literally don't count the mostly disenfranchised Forestborn. Now to be fair, Mathilde's math still checks out because the Wards of Frost and Storm are both highly in favour of contact, but it's still a very unfortunate oversight on their part. That kind of makes me give a higher priority to an 'explore a ward' action, so that Mathilde (and Eike) can spend some time with the least represented among the Eonir.Right now only three families are really dug in on our side - Fanpatar, who've taken a liking to the Middenheimers after fighting alongside them, Ellemakil, who are dominating the clergy of the new Cult here, and Tindomiel, who you've lined up to build the Waystones."
"Yavanna are going to be handling the spice trade, too."
"Good, that makes two families nominally on the isolationist side that'll stand to lose money if they succeed."
You run through your mental list of the Major Houses. "By that metric, that leaves four families on our side that might still be swayed back, against two on theirs that might balk if it looks like they could win."
Because largely they don't get a vote.Something I just realized while rereading - Mathilde and Thorek literally don't count the mostly disenfranchised Forestborn. Now to be fair, Mathilde's math still checks out because the Wards of Frost and Storm are both highly in favour of contact, but it's still a very unfortunate oversight on their part. That kind of makes me give a higher priority to an 'explore a ward' action, so that Mathilde (and Eike) can spend some time with the least represented among the Eonir.
Something I just realized while rereading - Mathilde and Thorek literally don't count the mostly disenfranchised Forestborn. Now to be fair, Mathilde's math still checks out because the Wards of Frost and Storm are both highly in favour of contact, but it's still a very unfortunate oversight on their part. That kind of makes me give a higher priority to an 'explore a ward' action, so that Mathilde (and Eike) can spend some time with the least represented among the Eonir.
I'm not sure that would help us politically, but exploring a Ward might get us in contact with the leadership that does have political sway, plus leveling up our Eonir Diplomacy to 2/2 Advanced, which isn't much from a pure numbers perspective but may be very helpful narratively. That's the status of our Dwarf and College of Magic Diplomacy skills, for instance.That kind of makes me give a higher priority to an 'explore a ward' action, so that Mathilde (and Eike) can spend some time with the least represented among the Eonir.
But the Forestborn are, as I said, mostly disenfranchised. They have two votes, and while that's an easy number to gloss over when you think of the full 25 votes on the council it does kind of matter when the vote is pretty much tied and Mathilde and Thorek count four uncertain votes for them and two possible votes that might switch against them.If you're trying to gather political influence, focusing on the enfranchised is not an oversight.
I would like to explore the Ward of Storm, though not on this turn and probably not on the next. Getting advanced Eonir diplomacy will be good, and exposing Eike to Forestborn is also good, but I also just want to know what's their deal. Cadaeth is on the project so I'm not worried about the Ward of Frost, but while the Warden of Storm seems really in favour of contact it probably won't hurt to check.I'm not sure that would help us politically, but exploring a Ward might get us in contact with the leadership that does have political sway, plus leveling up our Eonir Diplomacy to 2/2 Advanced, which isn't much from a pure numbers perspective but may be very helpful narratively. That's the status of our Dwarf and College of Magic Diplomacy skills, for instance.
My definition if "military purpose" is "useful for the military functioning and missions".
Coloration can be used for camouflage.
Scent to either mask your scent or mark trails.
Lustre, probably trail markings at least.
Thing is, almost anything can, with minimal imagination be turned to military purposes.
Because the "purposes" of militaries are so wide and varied.
Is it possible to hire on a small troop of bodyguards? Say 6 to 12 humans, dwarves, and maybe wood elves that we would arm and armor in with our favors in rune and magical equipment?
But the Forestborn are, as I said, mostly disenfranchised. They have two votes, and while that's an easy number to gloss over when you think of the full 25 votes on the council it does kind of matter when the vote is pretty much tied and Mathilde and Thorek count four uncertain votes for them and two possible votes that might switch against them.
Yes,Is it possible to hire on a small troop of bodyguards? Say 6 to 12 humans, dwarves, and maybe wood elves that we would arm and armor in with our favors in rune and magical equipment?
I would be fascinated on what the elf's would think of the honchland long rifle. As I think it is the one gun that can even beat the best elven bows in range.
But it's a bit expensive for a curiously buy.