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I like to think he'd be proud. Teclis himself was by all accounts an unreasonably brilliant student. He graduated from the White Tower after 150 odd years. It seems to take most Elves closer to 500.
Yes, but he worked super hard on trying to set an assignment that was appropriate for our skill level, and whilst he's happy we learned, he's also now forced to wonder if it's because we exceeded his expectations or because he didn't make it challenging enough.

Solution: Extra-Credit!
What actions do we want Eike to sit in on next turn? If we're gonna take some time off as a mental health break then maybe we could include her in that as well?
I mean...

We could look into Shallaya together. We know that She and Ranald got back together, and maybe having a better understanding of her can help us pinpoint their other kid.
 
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Disagree. Quests without danger are pointless for both the qm and the readers. Having to take seriously the consequences of failure gives a very good reason not to go for 110% of everything we can get. And because without meaningful failures the instincts to complete everything and collect everything have no pushback- it becomes a question of when we do everything, not if we do everything.

I do not mind the failure, I would have been fine with worse failure. Mutated Mathilde on the run would have been interesting, I mind spinning our wheels trying to mitigate unmitigatable failure and I fear this is going to happen for the next turn.
 
Checked for what though? Possession? Because that is the only thing they have a spell for, otherwise all they can do is look at us with magesight for signs of Dhar exposure.... which Mathilde is probably the expert on. There is this notion that somewhere in the Colleges there is someone with a bag full of reassurance. What if there isn't, what if they all know no more of this than Mathilde because to know more would be itself going to deep into the mysteries of Chaos? I mean we already have the Grey College's anti-Chaos course and are the preeminent expert on Dhar in the colleges, partly because of lore that would get us burned at the stale. Is it really reasonable that somewhere there is a person with even more forbidden lore and they will reveal that for Mathilde's peace of mind.

I'm not advocating for this because I think there's a huge upside, the upside is pretty modest. There's some tiny chance it disrupts a Tzeentchian plot to frame us, and a larger chance of receiving good advice (not in a mystical sense, but in a 'how to deal with being messed with based on your paranoia' sense, which older Grey Magisters are gonna have some experience with), and that's about it.

I'm advocating this because I'm convinced that there's literally no downside to doing it and it's what I think Mathilde would do. She has a weird encounter she follows best practices and reports it, end of story. Maintaining a reputation of doing that sort of thing scrupulously is also advantageous, as it helps conceal the times we didn't do that (the Liber Mortis and the Von Carstein Ring, to be specific).
 
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In the interests of getting this topic done and over with so I can enjoy this thread again:

What actions do we want Eike to sit in on next turn? If we're gonna take some time off as a mental health break then maybe we could include her in that as well?
If we write the book on AV, I want her in on that. If we work on Branarhune, I want her in on that, because it will help take the measure of her martial capabilities. And if we do some new research that doesn't seem too nuts, we can include her on that -- maybe even a Waystone action if we do something low-stakes like mapping Bretonnia. I see no reason to devote actual AP to a mental health break unless Boney gives us one in an update; the sorts of things I want Mathilde to do in response to this are social actions, not turn actions.

For her own skills development, I have no idea. More magic? Studying the math we use for our magical research? Spy hijinks (or "spyjinks" if you will (please don't))?
 
So, I'm going to throw something Apocryphal together after work to give the thread something to talk about other than Tzeemtchian murmurs. Unless there are topic requests that I think might be suitably distracting, it'll be a portrayal of my fever dream of Matorca being more interesting than it seemed.
...This reminds me, I was two sentences into writing an omake based on 'hey how would a Tzeentchian cultist attempt to assassinate Mathilde while she was mid-flight in her gyrocarriage.'

I don't think I'll finish that one, honestly, lol.

What actions do we want Eike to sit in on next turn? If we're gonna take some time off as a mental health break then maybe we could include her in that as well?
If we don't have enough CF, I'd say finishing up Branarhune would be a great thing for Eike to sit in on, get an idea of what her mystery skills are and either boosting those or giving her the basics of greatsword training.

If we do have enough CF by the end of the turn (terrain paper + checking in on the salamanders), I can't see us not doing the Orbflex so that leaves Branarhune for the following turn, meaning... We'll probably try to finish up Eonir diplomacy up to Advanced, and/or learn about Shallya (I support Corinthian's suggestion).
 
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So, the Daemon mentioned "the Eyes of Tzeentch". The name is unfamiliar to me, and google doesn't tell me what they are.
 
Any information sourced from the birdbrain is inherently tainted. I say we use a weak Mindhole to blur the details to make sure Mathilde's actions aren't effected.
 
I'm not advocating for this because I think there's a huge upside, the upside is pretty modest. There's some tiny chance it disrupts a Tzeentchian plot to frame us, and a larger chance of receiving good advice (not in a mystical sense, but in a 'how to deal with being messed with based on your paranoia' sense, which older Grey Magisters are gonna have some experience with), and that's about it.

I'm advocating this because I'm convinced that there's literally no downside to doing it and it's what I think Mathilde would do. She has a weird encounter she follows best practices and reports it, end of story. Maintaining a reputation of doing that sort of thing scrupulously is also advantageous, as it helps conceal the times we didn't do that (the Liber Mortis and the Von Carstein Ring, to be specific).

Fair enough, I think there will be some loss of standing to reflect the increased suspicion, probably a loss of College reputation and other annoyances, but I will admit I would mostly find that uninteresting.
 
It happened once, in unusual circumstances.
Yes. But Mathilde doesn't know what she did wrong. From her perspective this is not like a miscast, where she loses control of magic and magic does stuff on its own, up to and including opening a Warp rift. She just squeezed AV until it did what it apparently always does, which is popping a liminal space bubble with a hole towards reality. Then a Daemon on its own cast some magic to add a hole towards its own home. It did so from the outside without receiving any special alert or warning other than whatever popping a bubble into the border between dimensions apparently causes in the Warp. Mathilde then managed to seal that second hole with the Daemons inexplicable help. As far as the chapter says the liminal space itself is still there, no?
We do not know what enabled the Daemon to do what it did. Is it that creating a bubble like that momentarily weakens the borders enough to allow relatively easy passing, or is the mere existence of a bubble enough? Does a Greater Daemon literally have to be in exactly the right spot to notice this happening to then use magic only a Greater Daemon has access to to attempt a breach? Or is the event obvious for Warp entities in a large radius (whatever space even means back there) and the breaching magic required in such an event actually simpler than expected?
Was the Daemon actually alerted by happenstance in the Aethyr or was it alerted because of something that has to do with Mathilde's nature, Mathilde's actions or AV?
Worst case scenario the bubble we made looks like a literal 2 cubic meter pustule upon the border between reality and Aethyr, with skin that is noticeably thinner than usual and can be breached by the Daemon the same way it did when we were present to stop it. And there is nothing we truly know that makes this any less likely than any other, less bad scenario.

Is there a reason we want to pursue liminal realm research, beyond idle curiosity?
We need something impressive to say during the next LM promotion.

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Here's my current takeaway:

First, what actually happened:
  • Mathilde found out that squeezing AV makes liminal space.
  • She also had a miscast that almost summoned a Daemon into the material realm (it happens) and had said Daemon talk to her as she warded it off. Nothing special there.
  • A bunch of stuff of what the Daemon said is stuff she already knew, telling her that the Daemon does too and can use that knowledge. It also said a bunch of unverifiable stuff and tried to throw shade at Egrimm and Alric in particular.
  • Sadly, she had to use the Daemon's help in warding it off. Worrisome. Also, why did the Daemon help her to ward itself off? Double worrisome.
  • Something in her magic indicates that Tzeentch now Cares about her. I don't know how much Mathilde can feel about her own Fated trait and how much it is purely OOC knowledge.
And the consequences:
  • Mathilde doesn't actually know that the Daemon was due to a miscast-equivalent. For all she knows the chance of summoning Daemons is higher when creating liminal space with AV than it is when casting a spell one is acquainted with. For all she knows the liminal space, as it is right now, can still be used by Daemons to enter if they exert themselves. This means that she is neither comfortable just repeating the experiment, nor does she know whether the Room of Calamity is now so vulnerable to Daemon incursion that someone should really do something about it. The only response is to, well, do something about it.
  • Everything the Daemon literally said is unactionable. But she will forever have both ratcheted up paranoia and paranoia about her own paranoia when it comes to both Egrimm and Alric. This might make working with the former awkward or otherwise problematic. But stopping cooperation with Egrimm is also not an option.
  • I don't know at what point Mathilde becomes IC aware that her magic interacts abnormally with Tzeentch's presence, but once she does it might be best to avoid casting any magic in Tzeentch's presence.
  • Alongside the monologue memory the Daemon might have implanted something else. Anything else really. The Grey Order is well aware of the existence of hidden memories that only appear when triggered.
  • This whole debacle throws a major wrench into our Surprise Orbs of Sorcery plan. If Mathilde tells the Colleges about her Tzeentch encounter and then appears with Orbs of Sorcery she claims to have made using pure Aethyr blood then that is an issue. If she first reveals the Orbs and thentells them she had an encounter with a Tzeentch Daemon afterwards, she is lying about the timeline, which also messes with her book. If she decides to not say anything at all then there might be some unforeseen way that it bites her in the ass. Like for example:
    • Tzeentch launders info through a well placed cultist. It puts everything she did with AV into question.
    • There is some lingering influence that another Wizard is able to detect. She gets questioned about it and is proven untrustworthy because she lied.
    • There is some lingering influence that could have been removed by another Wizard, but isn't. This leads to major consequences of some kind.
What I think we should do about it:
  • Talk to Belegar. This is his backyard. And "right next to the Eye of Gazul" is pretty much the worst place for a Tzeentch incursion.
  • Tell him that a miscast ripped a hole into reality and that a Daemon then subsequently ripped a hole into that hole and tried to get through. Belegar will presumably tell Kragg.
  • Ask Gunnars to check her soul out ASAP. Tell him that she had a miscast, that it involved a Tzeentch Daemon and that she wants to make sure there's nothing worrisome lingering on. Again, pretty straightforward.
  • Maybe also tell him about the tiny liminal space bubble and whether he can in any way help with it? Not sure about this one.
  • Be there in case Kragg or Gunnars or both want to do something in the Room of Calamity. Leave if they ask you to leave (of course).
  • Pray.
  • Consult with Heidi about spiritual matters. She is the most trusted cleric of Mathilde's patron deity that she knows. Tell Heidi that Tzeentch messed with her after a miscast and be open about how the things the Daemon said affected her, but don't share any actual content of the daemonic monologue.
  • Consider talking to Algard:
    • Option A: Tell him everything about AV now, emphasizing all that Mathilde found out before she encountered the Daemon. Then tell him that during an experiment she had a miscast and a Daemon of Tzeentch tried (and failed) to tempt her.
    • Option B: Don't mention AV. Just mention a miscast that made a Daemon of Tzeentch talk to her. Before releasing the AV book, have a way to launder in a warning about the vulnerability of liminal spaces.
    • Either way, consider mentioning Tzeentchian memory packages and asking how to check for additional sleeping packages, only in case Gunnars didn't already solve this to her satisfaction.
      • Pro: Might be important to get rid of.
      • Con: Might lead to more suspicion, less freedom and someone rooting around in her secrets, especially if the Grey College has not encountered this form of daemonic communication before.
    • Option C: Don't talk to Algard about this after all.
    • Either way, don't tell him about the actual contents of the message or about using a Tzeentchian magic boost to close a rift to the Warp.
  • At some point in the near future tell Hatalath that she found a way to create liminal space but not how to do important things like warding this space against Daemon incursions or hiding it from outside view. Mention the importance of knowing this, since the liminal space in question already exists as of this moment.
  • Maybe, and that's a big maybe, tell Egrimm that a Daemon of Tzeentch name-dropped him, in the context of being a target for temptation. Don't tell him that she herself was the one that heard it. This would explain any awkwardness and suspicion she might inadvertently have been showing towards him. It might also warn him to hide his evil Chaos cultist plots even better though. Or just make him upset.
  • Either commit to never casting in the presence of Tzeentchian magic or find a way to try it out at least once in as safe an environment as possible.
 
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In the interests of getting this topic done and over with so I can enjoy this thread again:

What actions do we want Eike to sit in on next turn? If we're gonna take some time off as a mental health break then maybe we could include her in that as well?

Maybe some enchanting? It's a skill we don't use very often because we skipped the tech tree with runic items, but I think it's worth passing on to her. Maybe we can do a windherding action?
 
In the interests of getting this topic done and over with so I can enjoy this thread again:

What actions do we want Eike to sit in on next turn? If we're gonna take some time off as a mental health break then maybe we could include her in that as well?
Which actions we take Eike on depends on which actions we take ourselves, so we can't really plan this in detail without deciding on our next turn plan, which would unfortuntely require discussing this cursed topic.

In general I think the part of the turn plan that is most flexible and is easiest to change for Eike related reasons is the AP we dedicate to Mathilde's backlog, especially the WEB-MAT stuff. So here is some stuff in our backlog that could be nice to include Eike on:

-The Lustrain Rubbings might be a good lesson in language. The notes the explorer took are written in Eltharin, but more importantly the rubbings are of golden plaques and thus contain lizardmen glyphs. This is also a safe research job, and one in which Mathilde is about as ignorant of the subject matter as Eike is, so there's a chance that Eike could actually make herself somewhat useful here instead of just watching in awe as her Master does her thing.

-Windherding could serve as an introduction to enchantment. I doubt Eike could pick up the windherding skill easily, and it's hard to know how often she's going to collaborate with wizards from other Colleges (which is a perquisite for using windherding at all) but the Ulgu parts of any Windherding project in the near future are going to be relatively simple spells, so Eike might manage to pick up something. Exposure to enchanting is also important because I think enchanting is one possible future career for Eike, so it'll be good to see if she takes to it.

-Studying the Kurgan enchanted weapons is another action which will expose Eike to enchantment. Studying enchanted items is different from creating enchanted items, so this won't impart quite the same lesson as the windherding action, but this is definitely something worth doing in my opinion.

-The Windfall paper is a paper about naturally occurring Dhar, and so this might be one of the very few ways in which we stand a chance of exposing Eike to Mathilde's insights on Dhar without condemning her to fire and sword.

-Studying the Kurgan Shrine to Mannsleib could be a way to broach the subject of religion in a non-intrusive way, if we want to see where Eike stands. This can be done as a WEB-MAT action with Egrimm, who while not religious himself did search when he was younger, and he did mention that the Light Order works with Shallyans relatively often.

-The daughters of Ranald? No, seriously. It's the one place where Mathilde and Eike's faiths intersect, as They are the daughters of Ranald and Shallya. But I have no idea what actions would actually involve this subject. I guess if we're doing anything faith-y with Aksel or with followers of the other daughter we can bring Eike along?

- Branulhune training would maybe get us learn some of Eike's combat abilities, but this is Mathilde working on her cutting-edge teleporting sword style. If Eike has a solid basis in greatswords then maybe she could learn a thing or two, but mostly I just hope we'll learn some of Eike's martial traits and maybe finish off her fitness trait.
 
Fair enough, I think there will be some loss of standing to reflect the increased suspicion, probably a loss of College reputation and other annoyances, but I will admit I would mostly find that uninteresting.

That just seems really unlikely to me given that the story is 'met a daemon, it talked at me then I banished it'. That's both not that unexpected and kind of her job. And I'm not advocating we make a big thing out of it in an OOC sense, just that we explicitly do tell people rather than keeping it a secret.
 
Yes. But Mathilde doesn't know what she did wrong. From her perspective this is not like a miscast, where she loses control of magic and magic does stuff on its own, up to and including opening a Warp rift. She just squeezed AV until it did what it apparently always does, which is popping a liminal space bubble with a hole towards reality. Then a Daemon on its own cast some magic to add a hole towards its own home. It did so from the outside without receiving any special alert or warning other than whatever popping a bubble into the border between dimensions apparently causes in the Warp. Mathilde then managed to seal that second hole with the Daemons inexplicable help. As far as the chapter says the liminal space itself is still there, no?
We do not know what enabled the Daemon to do what it did. Is it that creating a bubble like that momentarily weakens the borders enough to allow relatively easy passing, or is the mere existence of a bubble enough? Does a Greater Daemon literally have to be in exactly the right spot to notice this happening to then use magic only a Greater Daemon has access to to attempt a breach? Or is the event obvious for Warp entities in a large radius (whatever space even means back there) and the breaching magic required in such an event actually simpler than expected?
Was the Daemon actually alerted by happenstance in the Aethyr or was it alerted because of something that has to do with Mathilde's nature, Mathilde's actions or AV?
Worst case scenario the bubble we made looks like a literal 2 cubic meter pustule upon the border between reality and Aethyr, with skin that is noticeably thinner than usual and can be breached by the Daemon the same way it did when we were present to stop it. And there is nothing we truly know that makes this any less likely than any other, less bad scenario.


We need something impressive to say during the next LM promotion.

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Here's my current takeaway:

First, what actually happened:
  • Mathilde found out that squeezing AV makes liminal space.
  • She also had a miscast that almost summoned a Daemon into the material realm (it happens) and had said Daemon talk to her as she warded it off. Nothing special there.
  • A bunch of stuff of what the Daemon said is stuff she already knew, telling her that the Daemon does too and can use that knowledge. It also said a bunch of unverifiable stuff and tried to throw shade at Egrimm and Alric in particular.
  • Sadly, she had to use the Daemon's help in warding it off. Worrisome. Also, why did the Daemon help her to ward itself off? Double worrisome.
  • Something in her magic indicates that Tzeentch now Cares about her. I don't know how much Mathilde can feel about her own Fated trait and how much it is purely OOC knowledge.
And the consequences:
  • Mathilde doesn't actually know that the Daemon was due to a miscast-equivalent. For all she knows the chance of summoning Daemons is higher when creating liminal space with AV than it is when casting a spell one is acquainted with. For all she knows the liminal space, as it is right now, can still be used by Daemons to enter if they exert themselves. This means that she is neither comfortable just repeating the experiment, nor does she know whether the Room of Calamity is now so vulnerable to Daemon incursion that someone should really do something about it. The only response is to, well, do something about it.
  • Everything the Daemon literally said is unactionable. But she will forever have both ratcheted up paranoia and paranoia about her own paranoia when it comes to both Egrimm and Alric. This might make working with the former awkward or otherwise problematic. But stopping cooperation with Egrimm is also not an option.
  • I don't know at what point Mathilde becomes IC aware that her magic interacts abnormally with Tzeentch's presence, but once she does it might be best to avoid casting any magic in Tzeentch's presence.
  • Alongside the monologue memory the Daemon might have implanted something else. Anything else really. The Grey Order is well aware of the existence of hidden memories that only appear when triggered.
  • This whole debacle throws a major wrench into our Surprise Orbs of Sorcery plan. If Mathilde tells the Colleges about her Tzeentch encounter and then appears with Orbs of Sorcery she claims to have made using pure Aethyr blood then that is an issue. If she first reveals the Orbs and thentells them she had an encounter with a Tzeentch Daemon afterwards, she is lying about the timeline, which also messes with her book. If she decides to not say anything at all then there might be some unforeseen way that it bites her in the ass. Like for example:
    • Tzeentch launders info through a well placed cultist. It puts everything she did with AV into question.
    • There is some lingering influence that another Wizard is able to detect. She gets questioned about it and is proven untrustworthy because she lied.
    • There is some lingering influence that could have been removed by another Wizard, but isn't. This leads to major consequences of some kind.
What I think we should do about it:
  • Talk to Belegar. This is his backyard. And "right next to the Eye of Gazul" is pretty much the worst place for a Tzeentch incursion.
  • Tell him that a miscast ripped a hole into reality and that a Daemon then subsequently ripped a hole into that hole and tried to get through. Belegar will presumably tell Kragg.
  • Ask Gunnars to check her soul out ASAP. Tell him that she had a miscast, that it involved a Tzeentch Daemon and that she wants to make sure there's nothing worrisome lingering on. Again, pretty straightforward.
  • Maybe also tell him about the tiny liminal space bubble and whether he can in any way help with it? Not sure about this one.
  • Be there in case Kragg or Gunnars or both want to do something in the Room of Calamity. Leave if they ask you to leave (of course).
  • Pray.
  • Consult with Heidi about spiritual matters. She is the most trusted cleric of Mathilde's patron deity that she knows. Tell Heidi that Tzeentch messed with her after a miscast and be open about how the things the Daemon said affected her, but don't share any actual content of the daemonic monologue.
  • Consider talking to Algard:
    • Option A: Tell him everything about AV now, emphasizing all that Mathilde found out before she encountered the Daemon. Then tell him that during an experiment she had a miscast and a Daemon of Tzeentch tried (and failed) to tempt her.
    • Option B: Don't mention AV. Just mention a miscast that made a Daemon of Tzeentch talk to her. Before releasing the AV book, have a way to launder in a warning about the vulnerability of liminal spaces.
    • Either way, consider mentioning Tzeentchian memory packages and asking how to check for additional sleeping packages, only in case Gunnars didn't already solve this to her satisfaction.
      • Pro: Might be important to get rid of.
      • Con: Might lead to more suspicion, less freedom and someone rooting around in her secrets, especially if the Grey College has not encountered this form of daemonic communication before.
    • Option C: Don't talk to Algard about this after all.
    • Either way, don't tell him about the actual contents of the message or about using a Tzeentchian magic boost to close a rift to the Warp.
  • At some point in the near future tell Hatalath that she found a way to create liminal space but not how to do important things like warding this space against Daemon incursions or hiding it from outside view. Mention the importance of knowing this, since the liminal space in question already exists as of this moment.
  • Either commit to never casting in the presence of Tzeentchian magic or find a way to try it out at least once in as safe an environment as possible.

I realize this was made with goodwill and that each of these things is reasonable, but this... this is what I worry about, the several updates worth of quest writing and discussion being filed with mostly pointless conversations leading to reassuring headpats and/or suspicions with loss of standing attached. Ah well I guess I have to hope Boney can condense something like this to a reasonable size.
 
Also, as a lover of all things Hedge, there are two things I must say:

First, while I'm not on the "study liminal realms right away" train myself, I should note that this is the Hedgewise's whole thing. Two different Lord Magisters said the liminal space the Grey College resides in is related to the Hedgewise (Kurtis said it was literally the Hedge, Kupfer said it was the shadows from the Forest of Shadows, whatever the fuck that means) and this liminal realm was noted to be similar in apperance to the Grey College's liminal realm. Aksel is someone to talk to if we're going to look into this subject.

Second, there have been some talk about using Grey College magics to forget about this conversation, but guess what? The Hedgewise actually have a spell that makes you forget someone else and everything related to them, as if they Mindholed you!
Nepenthe: Using a fingernail from the individual the target wishes to forget, the user can create magic smokey liquid to fill a small cup. If a willing individual drinks from this cup, they will forget one individual (that they want to forget) and everything involved with that individual. The spell is permanent.
So all we need to do is physically confront this Greater Demon of the God of Magic, take one of Their nails, and consume it with the aid of a spell. I can see no way that this could go wrong.
 
Also, as a lover of all things Hedge, there are two things I must say:

First, while I'm not on the "study liminal realms right away" train myself, I should note that this is the Hedgewise's whole thing. Two different Lord Magisters said the liminal space the Grey College resides in is related to the Hedgewise (Kurtis said it was literally the Hedge, Kupfer said it was the shadows from the Forest of Shadows, whatever the fuck that means) and this liminal realm was noted to be similar in apperance to the Grey College's liminal realm. Aksel is someone to talk to if we're going to look into this subject.

Second, there have been some talk about using Grey College magics to forget about this conversation, but guess what? The Hedgewise actually have a spell that makes you forget someone else and everything related to them, as if they Mindholed you!

So all we need to do is physically confront this Greater Demon of the God of Magic, take one of Their nails, and consume it with the aid of a spell. I can see no way that this could go wrong.

I am pretty sure demon bits melt into the winds if cut off so it would not work

This is of course the only reason why this is not the best of all plans. :V
 
Mathilde then managed to seal that second hole with the Daemons inexplicable help. As far as the chapter says the liminal space itself is still there, no?

The liminal space is no longer there. It has being destroyed by Mathilde according to the post below. At least if I understand the analogy correctly.

Mathilde destroyed this one, sort of. Imagine taking a sock and turning it inside out, but stopping halfway so all the material is bunched up between the elastic.
 
Which actions we take Eike on depends on which actions we take ourselves, so we can't really plan this in detail without deciding on our next turn plan, which would unfortuntely require discussing this cursed topic.

In general I think the part of the turn plan that is most flexible and is easiest to change for Eike related reasons is the AP we dedicate to Mathilde's backlog, especially the WEB-MAT stuff. So here is some stuff in our backlog that could be nice to include Eike on:

-The Lustrain Rubbings might be a good lesson in language. The notes the explorer took are written in Eltharin, but more importantly the rubbings are of golden plaques and thus contain lizardmen glyphs. This is also a safe research job, and one in which Mathilde is about as ignorant of the subject matter as Eike is, so there's a chance that Eike could actually make herself somewhat useful here instead of just watching in awe as her Master does her thing.

-Windherding could serve as an introduction to enchantment. I doubt Eike could pick up the windherding skill easily, and it's hard to know how often she's going to collaborate with wizards from other Colleges (which is a perquisite for using windherding at all) but the Ulgu parts of any Windherding project in the near future are going to be relatively simple spells, so Eike might manage to pick up something. Exposure to enchanting is also important because I think enchanting is one possible future career for Eike, so it'll be good to see if she takes to it.

-Studying the Kurgan enchanted weapons is another action which will expose Eike to enchantment. Studying enchanted items is different from creating enchanted items, so this won't impart quite the same lesson as the windherding action, but this is definitely something worth doing in my opinion.

-The Windfall paper is a paper about naturally occurring Dhar, and so this might be one of the very few ways in which we stand a chance of exposing Eike to Mathilde's insights on Dhar without condemning her to fire and sword.

-Studying the Kurgan Shrine to Mannsleib could be a way to broach the subject of religion in a non-intrusive way, if we want to see where Eike stands. This can be done as a WEB-MAT action with Egrimm, who while not religious himself did search when he was younger, and he did mention that the Light Order works with Shallyans relatively often.

-The daughters of Ranald? No, seriously. It's the one place where Mathilde and Eike's faiths intersect, as They are the daughters of Ranald and Shallya. But I have no idea what actions would actually involve this subject. I guess if we're doing anything faith-y with Aksel or with followers of the other daughter we can bring Eike along?

- Branulhune training would maybe get us learn some of Eike's combat abilities, but this is Mathilde working on her cutting-edge teleporting sword style. If Eike has a solid basis in greatswords then maybe she could learn a thing or two, but mostly I just hope we'll learn some of Eike's martial traits and maybe finish off her fitness trait.
I think exploring one of the Wards of Laurelorn would be another good option. We'd finish up Advanced Eonir diplomacy, and Eike might get another chance at Xeno-Affinity or politicking.

Lords of change are known as eyes of Tzeentch.

Lords of Change are the Greater Daemons of Tzeentch. [5a]

They are also known by the names Chi'Khami'tzann Tsunoi, Eyes of Tzeentch, Feathered Lords and the Watching Lords of Change. [3a]
8e also gives 'Winged Watchers' as another name. Daemons are simply the sorts of beings that attract lots of names and titles.
 
I think exploring one of the Wards of Laurelorn would be another good option. We'd finish up Advanced Eonir diplomacy, and Eike might get another chance at Xeno-Affinity or politicking.
It's an action I would love to take (which ward btw? I think I want Storm because we know pretty much nothing about them) but it's not a WEB-MAT action and it's not a part of our backlog, so it might be difficult to find the AP for it.
 
With the liminal weakness in Mathilde's Room of Calamity couldn't she remove the walls between that room and the Eye of Gazul steel column, set up a correct source of light so that the column's shadow covers the weakness, and cast Burning Shadows to burn away the liminal realm? Mathilde has secret Gazul lore that says he used his fires to something of this effect.
 
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