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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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Dragonofelder said:
You wanna start a war with Marienburg? Because a College of Magic Lady Magister provoking one of the city's trading patrons would probably cause a war.

Let's file it under "maybe"
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We just need to ask them to sign a waiver acknowledging that they will die if Mathilde hits them. Like 80% of them will be physically incapable of any answer other than 'If', meaning we are immune against any consequences:V
 
Marienburg has Elven allies, not all are sword-fighters, some may be in disciplines capable of killing us. Let's not please? Like not even as a joke please.
 
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Marienburg has Elven allies, not all are sword-fighters, some may be in disciplines capable of killing us. Let's not please? Like not even as a joke please.
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So I admit that most of my HE knowledge is based on fanon from that Imrix Quest, but would death really be on the table here? To them this would have similar vibe to a RL 15-year-old walking into a wrestling gym while talking shit about how they are hard enough to take on any single one of the people there. If that dumbass/Mathilde was sufficiently tenacious they would totally get some experience getting gently thrown around with, like, zero risk of malicious harm.
 
Some of them may be hundreds to thousands of years old adults dedicated to their crafts, it is...not an apt comparison you are making in my eyes.
Some may additionally be able to identify our healing seed what with it being an elven artefact, depends on how old the elves we would meet could be really, not a chance I would take lightly.

I know one of them specifically is dedicated to selling exotic animals so a worst case scenario might involve us having some creature eating through our body though I see this as unlikely.

EDIT: To be clear it's very unlikely that they would WANT to kill us but rolling badly on that, yeah I think it could happen.
 
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Some of them may be hundreds to thousands of years old adults dedicated to their crafts, it is...not an apt comparison you are making in my eyes.
Some may additionally be able to identify our healing seed what with it being an elven artefact, depends on how old the elves we would meet could be really, not a chance I would take lightly.

I know one of them specifically is dedicated to selling exotic animals so a worst case scenario might involve us having some creature eating through our body though I see this as unlikely.
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The seed in Mathilde's hand is based on a spell that Elves (presumably) know, but I don't think it'd be accurate to label it an elven artifact? It was created, enchanted, and implanted by a College Magister.
 
If we want Elven sparring partners, we get a practice sword and walk around Laurelorn asking for people interested in the subject. I doubt it would be that hard. Whether we go through with actually getting the practice sword is another matter.
 
Codex said:
If we want Elven sparring partners, we get a practice sword and walk around Laurelorn asking for people interested in the subject. I doubt it would be that hard. Whether we go through with actually getting the practice sword is another matter.
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We'll see if it wins the vote the next purchase vote I suppose. Just the socials left before that.
 
Re:Malekith, I'm inclined to agree that in any sort of fair fight he'd slice up Mathilde and call it a day. Even the best-case-scenario of Branulhune somehow getting a good hit in and disabling his numerous magic items would be a real gamble. And even without them he could out-speed her or use his prowess over magic to flex on her.

(That armor of his makes him almost invincible to mundane attacks, and the rest of his magic items are designed to disable enemy spellcasters. I'm not too clear on the exact mechanics of how Branulhune would work - would his armor's Ward Save get empowered from Magic Resistance too, or does that only apply to actual spells and not Magic Weapons?)

...In an unfair fight, we'd ideally bring along Elf Wizard Dad or Elf Swordsman Uncle and wait for just the right time to try to get a good hit in. If Malekith ever ends up being an actual problem, I have a hard time thinking we'd be the only hero on the battlefield.
 
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Codex said:
Malekith is skilled, but he rarely gets a chance to show it off because he can just clench his fist and crush a Greater Daemon of Slaanesh to death apparently.
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When you've will enough to actually walk into Warp and then walk out of it, i suppose crushing the creatures that come out of it is small potatoes in comparison.

He is honestly kinda really scary in ways that not many antagonists tend to be.
 
To be fair, his walk in the warp was extremly short. Mind you, still an incredible feat, but it wasn't just a casual walk in and out for him. Not something i think he'd do again if he had the choice

Makes me curious what Mathilda could learn from Lizard doom slayer. He's probaly the guy who's gonna be most capable of aquiring a ton of AV
 
Parabola said:
Re:Malekith, I'm inclined to agree that in any sort of fair fight he'd slice up Mathilde and call it a day. Even the best-case-scenario of Branulhune somehow getting a good hit in and disabling his numerous magic items would be a real gamble. And even without them he could out-speed her or use his prowess over magic to flex on her.

(That armor of his makes him almost invincible to mundane attacks, and the rest of his magic items are designed to disable enemy spellcasters. I'm not too clear on the exact mechanics of how Branulhune would work - would his armor's Ward Save get empowered from Magic Resistance too, or does that only apply to actual spells and not Magic Weapons?)

...In an unfair fight, we'd ideally bring along Elf Wizard Dad or Elf Swordsman Uncle and wait for just the right time to try to get a good hit in. If Malekith ever ends up being an actual problem, I have a hard time thinking we'd be the only hero on the battlefield.
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Magic Resistance doesn't interact with Magic Weapons and his armor offers zero protection against Branulhune (S10 ignores all armor saves and his Ward only works against non-magical weapons). Also don't tell Kragg, but Malekith's items are suspiciously similar to Mathilde's. His weapon disables opponents' magical items (similar to Branulhune) and his shield reflects successfully resisted spells back at the caster (somewhat similar to our belt).
 
Sa'kage said:
To be fair, his walk in the warp was extremly short. Mind you, still an incredible feat, but it wasn't just a casual walk in and out for him. Not something i think he'd do again if he had the choice

Makes me curious what Mathilda could learn from Lizard doom slayer. He's probaly the guy who's gonna be most capable of aquiring a ton of AV
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He spent 100 years in the Warp.

100 years in-the-world, anyway, it could have been longer or shorter for him.
 
Mopman43 said:
He spent 100 years in the Warp.

100 years in-the-world, anyway, it could have been longer or shorter for him.
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I think it was subjectively shorter for him.
His armour doesn't protect against magical attacks and every demon has magical attacks :V.
He may be able to bind demons in the material plane, but spending a century on their home territory?
Even someone as OP as Malekith would have lost.
Not to mention, a hundred years is probably enough for the actual chaos gods to take notice.
 
Honestly, regardless of lenght, its probably one of the most impressive things a non-Slann has done that i can remember of the top off my head. That guy is scary.
 
Parabola said:
...In an unfair fight, we'd ideally bring along Elf Wizard Dad or Elf Swordsman Uncle and wait for just the right time to try to get a good hit in. If Malekith ever ends up being an actual problem, I have a hard time thinking we'd be the only hero on the battlefield.
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The problem is that in this case Malekith is also likely to not be alone. Kouran is very good at his job (murdering anyone trying to attack his master), and the Black Guard is too. And there will be plenty of sorceresses as well.
 
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K von Carstein said:
The problem is that in this case Malekith is also likely to not be alone. Kouran is very good at his job (murdering anyone trying to attack his master), and the Black Guard is too. And there will be plenty of sorceresses as well.
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Opened the warhammer wiki to read about kouran.
...Kouran sought out the Captain of the Black Guard, Khanaleth, and hurled him to a bone-splintering death from the east wall of Naggarond. Malekith, pleased with Kouran's ruthless nature, granted him command of the Black Guard...
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Became the head bodyguard of the king by killing off the previous one, and not even necessarily in a duel. Which apparently delighted Malekith...

Truly, the dark elves are the epitome of grimderp.
 
Malekith's armor also makes it so that any attack dealt to him deals a maximum of 1 Wound if it successfully wounds him. Anti-Instant kill mechanic.
LockedMind said:
His weapon disables opponents' magical items (similar to Branulhune) and his shield reflects successfully resisted spells back at the caster (somewhat similar to our belt).
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Malekith's weapon, Destroyer, destroys Magic Items, it doesn't disable them temporarily. It only does one at a time as opposed to Kragg's all in one. It can also drain a Wizard's knowledge, represented in the Tabletop with a chance to reduce enemy Wizard level on a successful hit.

Fun fact, Malekith made Destroyer, unlike his armor which was made by Hotek. I guess Malekith also dabbles in a little enchanting.
 
K von Carstein said:
The problem is that in this case Malekith is also likely to not be alone. Kouran is very good at his job (murdering anyone trying to attack his master), and the Black Guard is too. And there will be plenty of sorceresses as well.
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Yeah, this is part of the reason why white-room scenarios just aren't worth it. In practice there's too many variables to really wish for a best-case scenario.

...And in the unlikely scenario that Malekith does get killed, that's going to have Consequences.

Dark Elves (8th ed) said:
Morathi prefers to work behind the scenes, twisting events to her favour with a carefully chosen alliance or assassination, yet she is a terrifying force if roused to open conflict and can unleash the horrific power of Chaos with barely a thought. She is capable of the most destructive magics possible, and there is little doubt that if Malekith is ever slain, she will use that knowledge to see the world destroyed rather than endure it in the hands of another.
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I came across an image on Twitter that made me chuckle and think of the Quest:
Waystone Project Ages Illustrated.
 
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