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But hopefully they die before they adapt
Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
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TortugaGreen
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You know, there's a certain philosophical belief that not only is reincarnation a thing and one soul may experience multiple different lives, but in fact that there is exactly one soul that will, at some point, experience the life of every single thing that could possibly have a soul - with the necessary disregard for linear time and completely inevitable mortality that requires. Under that interpretation of the world, the rolling a "6" for a dragon would be not only a possibility, but an inevitability given a significant enough number of rolls on the deja-vu gacha. There would be no species or being in existence that would not be inevitably possible, in fact - assuming the spell can reach 'forwards' in the infinite chain of reincarnation as well as 'backwards' anyway, to handle species who by some miracle of random chance only occur 'after' the Mathilde who develops it.
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... The AV cost has been discounted from one gallon to 0.5 gallons per sword.
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Tasoli
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I am hoping that we can create a shadow sword spell so there is a human source as well.
To give enchanted versions out as well.
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Codex
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I can think of a few Elves who could adapt in a fight, but I would hope we never get to fight Tyrion, Eltharion, Kouran, Araloth or Hellebron in single combat.But hopefully they die before they adapt
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Of those, only tyrion is likely to get up after taking a good hit from branalhune.
But that's off course assuming we managed to even land a hit.
Yeah but elves are so crazy fast so I think it'd be less of a decisive advantage and more of catching up to their natural advantages.
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Well, that is true. The average Elf has an Initiative of 5, more trained Elves have an Initiative of 6, Lords have a standard Initiative of 7 (unless they're Casters). Eltharion has I8, Alith Anar has I9 and Tyrion has I10.
As a frame of reference: humans. An example being Gelt having I3, Luthor Huss having I4, Marius Leitdorf and Ludwig Schwartzhelm having I5, and the most powerful, Kurt Helborg and Karl Franz, are at I6.
As a frame of reference: humans. An example being Gelt having I3, Luthor Huss having I4, Marius Leitdorf and Ludwig Schwartzhelm having I5, and the most powerful, Kurt Helborg and Karl Franz, are at I6.
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Yeah except the pouty whiners who worship Eldrazor will get murked in the most hilarious way. Hell, we could likely get them to wager utter bullshit on their certainty that a human could never beat them. Who wants a villa on Ulthuan?
Yup, hence, contain expectations and all that.
It changes greatsword agility to something closer to a rapier, but if you're facing an elf with a light blade they're still going to move their rapier holding wrist faster than the human can get with empty hands.
And nobody sane is going to try a hard parry on a runeblade without a weapon of equivalent monstrousness, even the daemon knew better than to receive a hit straight on.
What it DOES grant is the extra chance for the opponent to make a mistake that can be capitalized upon, and force them to be more cautious. Still a tough fight!
It changes greatsword agility to something closer to a rapier, but if you're facing an elf with a light blade they're still going to move their rapier holding wrist faster than the human can get with empty hands.
And nobody sane is going to try a hard parry on a runeblade without a weapon of equivalent monstrousness, even the daemon knew better than to receive a hit straight on.
What it DOES grant is the extra chance for the opponent to make a mistake that can be capitalized upon, and force them to be more cautious. Still a tough fight!
Could have sworn elven rank and file were I 4 and I 5 was elites. Also, generic human lords are I 5 for Empire General and I 6 for bret Duke or emp. Grandmaster. The big argument for elven speed is that in 8th they all have always strikes first as a special rule.
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Trust me. I'm not pulling this from memory. I personally checked the 8th Edition books. Elven militiamen have Initiative 5. Not a single Elf is below that, not even Teclis.
Yes Imperial Captains and Generals are I5. They're the cream of the crop. Grandmasters are the best fighters in the Empire. They're the only Non-Special Characters with Weapon Skill 6.
I think I may be mixing them up with 7th or 6th edition books then. Elves were slightly less bonkers then.
He will make us sushiSo you're saying we have a chance against Malekith?
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Elves are I5 in 6th edition and 7th edition as well. Elves being fast is their thing.
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Not really. He's Weapon Skill 8, which puts him on the level of Eltharion and Araloth, but not Kouran or Tyrion. His magic items are superior to ours and he's a stronger caster than us, being a Level 4 Battle Mage. He is superior to Mathilde in every respect. I was mostly thinking about Elves well known for their combat skills. Malekith is skilled, but he rarely gets a chance to show it off because he can just clench his fist and crush a Greater Daemon of Slaanesh to death apparently.So you're saying we have a chance against Malekith?
Basically just about our only chance is for him to completely not know about us, get stunned by the Belt, get his gear shut down, then savagely beaten via stunlock before he can take any action, while for some reason alone and in swording range.
And THAT assume our sword actually manages to trump his bullshit and turn them all off.
Which is a long complicated way to say he must have been trying to kill himself..
And THAT assume our sword actually manages to trump his bullshit and turn them all off.
Which is a long complicated way to say he must have been trying to kill himself..
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He also has a dragon.
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Maybe he just rolls a one and has a heart attack. Would have a higher chance of happening, and we can still take the credit!
K von Carstein
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I doubt Boney would roll for us killing him. He's more likely to roll on how successful we're at running away.
100= Malekith doesn't even know you were even there.
K von Carstein
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50: we escape while leaving 50% of our body (in other words, our legs) behind us. Somewhere in Athel Loren, Drycha is in an inexplicable good mood
1: Malekith usurp control on our teleportation spell and we materialise around his sword.
Elvish Arrogance + The Seed to fix the resulting mess seems like a way to fix the whole sparing partner issue. Does anything speak against going to the Elvish section of Marienburg and pissing them off until the dueling starts?
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You wanna start a war with Marienburg? Because a College of Magic Lady Magister provoking one of the city's trading patrons would probably cause a war.Elvish Arrogance + The Seed to fix the resulting mess seems like a way to fix the whole sparing partner issue. Does anything speak against going to the Elvish section of Marienburg and pissing them off until the dueling starts?
Let's file it under "maybe"