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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
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consequences
Not A Nice Person At All
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- Jerkville
You know, carving a rune into a powerstone does seem like a reasonable intermediate step between absolute befuddlement and carving runes into the soul structure of an elemental.
pucflek
Verified simpleton
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- Czech Republic
Yes. If you can carve into physical winds, you can probably carve into aethyr itself which is what the souls are made of. Its about the only thing i can come up with that would make carving a rune into Orb of Sorcery a desirable action.
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- A Pit Of My Own Making
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- He/Him
If we carved a rune of exploding onto a chaos god, would they die? (jk)
...he's done lots?
The main thing is that he's handling the EIC and we just need to give direction. He'll handle the details
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- New Brunswick, NJ
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- He/Him/His
He completely rocked his part of the investigation after the attack on the Okral. Part of the thinking behind giving him a headquarters this turn was "give him a dedicated place for building up a staff," in the hopes that we can use the EIC intel network for analysis work or other things more useful to our current goals, since active spy shenanigans are harder to make work with the EIC's current levels of penetration into things.
Chlof
Her Ladyship
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- She/Her
I'm weirdly excited to see my shower idea finally get implemented.
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- A Pit Of My Own Making
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- He/Him
Shower? In the Underpalace?
Codex
Fantasy Addict
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- She/Her
Pretty sure she's talking about shower thoughts. You know, the strange and deep thoughts you get when you're taking a shower?
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- A Pit Of My Own Making
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- He/Him
Oh. In that case, what was your shower idea @Chlof?
Codex
Fantasy Addict
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Chlof is the one who suggested the Sunken Palace become Hochlander's HQ:
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K von Carstein
Likes to go for a walk
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- Belgium
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- He
Honestly if it happens the writer will be called Ronald or something like that. The poor guy will be extremely confused about the fact that his totally fictional book based on random ideas attracted Mathilde´s attention.
You know I do not think we have a list of why spoders are best, at least not a coherent one so let's give it a shot:
Security: Spiders cannot be infiltrated and they are very hard to corrupt. Now one can make the argument that this matters little as this is a dwarf hold and that makes for really good security on its own, but keep in mind we did not choose security for the layout this is a trading Karak, there are going to be a lot of people coming and going, especially once the silk gets going, basically the very integration that the Locals vote hinges on makes it more easy to get deep cover agents into the library. Vampires are patient and so is chaos, they can get some dude in the Karak so that his children can join the library and rob it blind, or burn it to the ground etc...
Ease of Access: We are not going to be the best research assistants, that much is clear, but what people are going to need and want most from them is just to get the right books at the right time and that is I think much more manageable when you have an immortal who cannot forget and with an arbitrary amount of librarians to actually do the searching. That means that if you know what you are looking for the We will serve it up in the least amount of time. Odds are if you make it as far as K8P you do know what you are looking for, not a lot of kids doing school projects
Continuity: The We are not going to leave, they are not going to suffer internal division, be affected by drafting in a time of war, the library is going to be part of their lifeblood, in a very real sense a part of their self and their mind. That means that once the individual We gets a personal relationship with say a dwarf guild, they are golden, long lived beings some of the least trusting with their secrets are more likely to trust a We custodian far more than they would most mortal institutions
Integration: We are not talking about a civilization giving up its way of life here, but more about a singular hunter gatherer giving up their mostly deeply solitary way of life to be part of a community of like minded beings and help them with their unique gifts. I don't know about you but that just feels heartwarming to me, especially as we move from what is basically mercenary service to more civilian jobs.
We For Library
Security: Spiders cannot be infiltrated and they are very hard to corrupt. Now one can make the argument that this matters little as this is a dwarf hold and that makes for really good security on its own, but keep in mind we did not choose security for the layout this is a trading Karak, there are going to be a lot of people coming and going, especially once the silk gets going, basically the very integration that the Locals vote hinges on makes it more easy to get deep cover agents into the library. Vampires are patient and so is chaos, they can get some dude in the Karak so that his children can join the library and rob it blind, or burn it to the ground etc...
Ease of Access: We are not going to be the best research assistants, that much is clear, but what people are going to need and want most from them is just to get the right books at the right time and that is I think much more manageable when you have an immortal who cannot forget and with an arbitrary amount of librarians to actually do the searching. That means that if you know what you are looking for the We will serve it up in the least amount of time. Odds are if you make it as far as K8P you do know what you are looking for, not a lot of kids doing school projects
Continuity: The We are not going to leave, they are not going to suffer internal division, be affected by drafting in a time of war, the library is going to be part of their lifeblood, in a very real sense a part of their self and their mind. That means that once the individual We gets a personal relationship with say a dwarf guild, they are golden, long lived beings some of the least trusting with their secrets are more likely to trust a We custodian far more than they would most mortal institutions
Integration: We are not talking about a civilization giving up its way of life here, but more about a singular hunter gatherer giving up their mostly deeply solitary way of life to be part of a community of like minded beings and help them with their unique gifts. I don't know about you but that just feels heartwarming to me, especially as we move from what is basically mercenary service to more civilian jobs.
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- Argentina
Wonderful. Do we have an efforpost like this for Cython too?
I do not think he has much chance at this point sadly, but if he pulls closer I'll get one up
There was a list of pro Cython arguments somewhere earlier. But, sadly, I don't think he has a chance to win.
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- Denial
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- She/Her
We have no way of guaranteeing that. Unless the plan is to literally enslave them then We can leave any time they want.
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- A Pit Of My Own Making
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- He/Him
From what I understand the We colony we would employ is a offshoot of the main one. If the colony splits again, it's likely one part of it would stay. After all, why would they leave?
They consider books as part of their mind, that is one of of every single books. The prospect of them moving is about as remote as the dwarfs suddenly deciding K8P is a silly place and they should just drop it.
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- Denial
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- She/Her
For the same reasons any normal person might choose to leave a job? If The We wants to do a different job or travel somewhere else for whatever reason creating a split doesn't help the version that is still stuck at K8P.
Yeh... I'd considered that but I didn't want to accuse the thread of trying to use books to enslave them. Like I'm struggling to come up with a good analogy* but there is something really skeevy and gross about offering them the books in order to eternally tie them to a location where they are forced to work for us. Honestly if they wanted to leave or work somewhere else I would do everything possible to help them take copies of the books with them.
Of course there is still the possibility that their philosophical outlook changes as they spend longer interacting with other races and decide that they don't need to take all the books with them or that it is worth leaving some books behind to do something else they really want to.
*Probably for the better using analogies on the internet is a fools game.
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And they will then of course carry one of every single book in the library on their backs on the road... as a subterranean species with vulnerable egg-layers as their long term memory storage? The logistics of such a move to actually matter and as far as I can see they are untenable unless we killed all the skaven and rebuilt the underway as it was in the Golden Age. If that happened we have already won GG.
Burned_Cookie
Very tired girl.
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- Plato´s cave.
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- She/Her/It/Its
This is such a close vote. I personally favor the We because they have the potential to really, really, really love that job, and be excellent librarians to boot, but I can also see the value of strengthening the connection between Karak and Library.
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- Actually pretty lost
The We as a whole aren't mobile in the same way that people are. Moving the colony is a major endeavour, only done when there literally isn't enough food to sustain them. They're also used to much less entertainment than running a Library would provide, having spent the majority of its life alone. If they move into the Library, they are extremely likely to remain there indefinitely.